Eightcrackers
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Wasn't talking to you - I don't use personal pronouns with you any more.What do you mean by a woman if not a woman, female adult with XX chromosomes, and female anatomy and female reproductive organs?
Wasn't talking to you - I don't use personal pronouns with you any more.What do you mean by a woman if not a woman, female adult with XX chromosomes, and female anatomy and female reproductive organs?
But that is stopping the pregnancy, otherwise she will remain pregnant whether she wants to or not. Your remark didnt reflect realityUnless she aborts.
I am talking to you. If you cant clarify what you mean by woman and mother your argument is meaningless from the start and you are wasting everyone's time.Wasn't talking to you - I don't use personal pronouns with you any more.
I wouldn't "know that it is murder" even if I agreed with you down the line about womanhood and motherhood, because abortion does not meet the legal definition of murder, and that's the only definition I care about.How would you know an abortion is murder if you dont know what a wonan or a mother is? You wouldnt.
So you dont know.I wouldn't "know that it is murder" even if I agreed with you down the line about womanhood and motherhood, because abortion does not meet the legal definition of murder, and that's the only definition I care about.
Whatever a woman is, whatever a mother is, abortion is not legally defined as murder.
No.So you dont know.
The only definitions that matter and are relevant are the evidence based ones that reflect reality. Not the dehumanising ones that suit people's selfishness and perversions which are made legal for them.No.
The only definition of murder that matters when it comes to prevention and punishment, is the legal one.
How many legs does a horse have, if you call a tail a leg?
Four.
OK - the evidence that abortion is not murder isThe only definitions that matter and are relevant are the evidence based ones that reflect reality.
You have had my definition of murder but we havent had your definition of woman or mother, except 'whatever'.OK - the evidence that abortion is not murder is
1. that it is legal, and
2. murder is illegal.
If you are saying that it is murder despite this evidence, let's have your definition of murder.
At long last.
Really? Where?You have had my definition of murder
As I said, I will go with your definitions - I simply do not care for the purposes of discussions on abortion.You have had my definition of murder but we havent had your definition of woman or mother, except 'whatever'.
Been presented numerous times.Really? Where?
But you haven't. You have said pregnant person rather than pregnant mother or pregnant woman.As I said, I will go with your definitions
Does the definition of woman affect the morality of abortion?But you haven't. You have said pregnant person rather than pregnant mother or pregnant woman.
What is your understanding of the definition of 'woman' ? when we have established that I can answer your question.Does the definition of woman affect the morality of abortion?
If not, why harp on it?
As I've said countless times, I mean by "woman" what you mean by "woman".What is your understanding of the definition of 'woman' ? when we have established that I can answer your question.
It affects it because only a woman can be pregnant.Does the definition of woman affect the morality of abortion?
If not, why harp on it?
But the act of aborting a baby is immoral no matter how someone tries to justify it.It affects it because only a woman can be pregnant.
Well quiteBut the act of aborting a baby is immoral no matter how someone tries to justify it.
So you oppose science. The heart monitor is used to assure the baby is dead before chopping into parts for extraction.I wouldn't "know that it is murder" even if I agreed with you down the line about womanhood and motherhood, because abortion does not meet the legal definition of murder, and that's the only definition I care about.
Whatever a woman is, whatever a mother is, abortion is not legally defined as murder.
Murder is a legal term, and abortion is not considered murder under the law.So you oppose science. The heart monitor is used to assure the baby is dead before chopping into parts for extraction.
D&E is the name of the procedure.
So rhe law is unjust.Murder is a legal term, and abortion is not considered murder under the law.
The End.
(You have some other definition of murder? "Moral" murder? Good for you - the law doesn't care.)