For those of you who support abortion in the case of rape;

BMS

Well-known member
Why is the law unjust, given that the laws are implemented by the people for the people in a democracy?
And the law doesn't enforce abortions on anyone anyway.
So for example homosexuality is legal in one country and illegal in another country you would say they are both just laws?
If abortion is illegal in one country and legal in another the laws are both just?
If abortion is legal up to 24 weeks in one country but illegal after 12 weeks in another both laws are just.
 

J regia

Well-known member
So for example homosexuality is legal in one country and illegal in another country you would say they are both just laws?
If abortion is illegal in one country and legal in another the laws are both just?
If abortion is legal up to 24 weeks in one country but illegal after 12 weeks in another both laws are just.
It's your choice which country you want to live in and which laws you want to abide by.
 

J regia

Well-known member
So you dont care what the law says, only that its the law. So you would uphold a law whatever it required?
Most people in civilized countries support same-sex marriage.
And nobody is forcing you to have an abortion, but laws and regulations for abortions are far better than just having backyard butchers perform them.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Most people in civilized countries support same-sex marriage.
And nobody is forcing you to have an abortion, but laws and regulations for abortions are far better than just having backyard butchers perform them.
So you uphold the law whatever it is so long a majority in a particular country want it, whatever the law?
 

BMS

Well-known member
Yes, although I was gaoled once for not voting in an uncontested by-election, and I have received the odd speeding fine for exceeding the speed limit by about 5 KPH. And I did get a parking fine once, although it was refunded when I appealed. And I was never going to kill anyone when I was conscripted in 1969.
So all laws are just in your eyes then? Legal abortion is just and illegal abortion is just as well.
 

Beloved Daughter

Super Member
Most people in civilized countries support same-sex marriage.
And nobody is forcing you to have an abortion, but laws and regulations for abortions are far better than just having backyard butchers perform them.
Completely wrong.


An excerpt:

Every country where same-sex marriage is legal

Indeed, of the planet’s 195 countries, only 30 have legalized same-sex marriage. By contrast, same-sex sexual activity is illegal in over 70 countries across the globe.

Get your facts straight. Same sex marriage has zilch to do with abortion. Try to stay on topic.
 

J regia

Well-known member
Completely wrong.


An excerpt:

Every country where same-sex marriage is legal

Indeed, of the planet’s 195 countries, only 30 have legalized same-sex marriage. By contrast, same-sex sexual activity is illegal in over 70 countries across the globe.

Get your facts straight. Same sex marriage has zilch to do with abortion. Try to stay on topic.
So which of the civilized countries don't support same-sex marriage, and which of the uncivilized countries support same-sex marriage?
 

Beloved Daughter

Super Member
So which of the civilized countries don't support same-sex marriage, and which of the uncivilized countries support same-sex marriage?
You were provided with a link. If you can't follow it, I cannot help you. If see things that are untrue, I will correct you.
 

BMS

Well-known member
Yes since they are made by the people for the people in a democracy.
So you agree the time limit for abortion should be 24 weeks in the UK but 11 or 12 weeks in other laws in other countries. That shows you arent interested in what the law is but rather that there is a law to abide by. Normally it shows people just want abortion however it is in law.

But not all laws are made in countries that are democracies.

I completely disagree with you. There are laws in countries I disagree with.
 

BMS

Well-known member
So which of the civilized countries don't support same-sex marriage, and which of the uncivilized countries support same-sex marriage?
Sadly with lgbt dictating child abuse in some of you civilised countries, we need to discuss what you mean by civilised. So it obviously has everything to do with the error of your argument on abortion in that respect.

Furthermore the UK law has sex as a protected characteristic and gender reassignment for 18 years and over, yet we have many schools disobeying the law and teaching the lie of gender identity to children that they can change their sex. I dont call that a civilised society. I trust you are against this seeing as you always uphold the law.
 

J regia

Well-known member
I abide by the laws in my country.

And like most people I voted for and support same-sex marriage and the rights of transgenders.
 

BMS

Well-known member
I abide by the laws in my country.

And like most people I voted for and support same-sex marriage and the rights of transgenders.
Doesn't address the question, and now you seem to be compromising all you have said so far. Do you support the Equality Act 2010 protected characteristics and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and thus condemn schools telling children they can change sex?
 

J regia

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Doesn't address the question, and now you seem to be compromising all you have said so far. Do you support the Equality Act 2010 protected characteristics and the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and thus condemn schools telling children they can change sex?
That's totally irrelevant to me, and I support the rights of transgenders and same-sex marriages.
 

BMS

Well-known member
That's totally irrelevant to me, and I support the rights of transgenders and same-sex marriages.
So you don't necessarily support the law after all, or at least you don't support upholding the law, or support the law where you dont agree with it, which was my point in the first place.
 

J regia

Well-known member
So you don't necessarily support the law after all, or at least you don't support upholding the law, or support the law where you dont agree with it, which was my point in the first place.
Those two acts in 2004 and 2010 are totally irrelevant to me.
 
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