For those of you who support abortion in the case of rape;
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stiggy wiggy
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Wrong guy. I said nothing about placentas. You got confused, didn't you? Are you seriously claiming that you can leave a one day old infant alone by itself and it will survive?
So you disagree with your own logic?
Temujin
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I mentioned the placenta. I said nothing about leaving new born uncared for. That is not what independent of the placenta means. You got confused, didn't you?
Hardly. What part of the idea that moral decisions depend on circumstances is so difficult for you. A serial killer eating children has nothing in common with abortion and the morality of each circumstance is unconnected. It would be completely illogical to try to link the two. You could even call it a strawman argument.
stiggy wiggy
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Having trouble following your own logic? You weirdly defined a person in terms of viability. I pointed out that a one day old infant is not viable if left alone. Try to keep up.
Your words: "All morality depends on the personal opinions of the individual whose moral view it is."
So I ask again: For Jeffrey Dahmer, it was moral to eat children, right?
No not really since it fits the observable logic and definitions.
That is why we campaign against unjust laws
I am sticking to the subject by pointing out what you claim is false.
So lets correct you. I I start a sentence, " a man who,," to what do you think I am referring?
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Cut the insults matey and address the question
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No, the question to you was "So an unborn child is male or female while not being a person?
Science, who taught you gender ideology?
It was originally a question. So if someone asks you 'do you want fries with that?' do you say Really is that your view?
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Cut the insults. You have not been able to show that you understand what a man is. So address it and dont keep using words you dont understand and cant quantify.
The significance of this as a 'deal breaker' was explained to you the moment you introduced gender ideology so you have no excuse.
As a matter of logic and definition, as shown, it is a human being and a person and thus wilfully intending to kill it in pro-choice abortion is murder. How many times?
Absolutely to do with the subject. Stiggy wiggy asked you the question "So an unborn child is male or female while not being a person"
I am just trying to clarify what you mean by male or female. Lets have your answer
Ok, male and female is the biological sex, which is why I want you to clarify what you mean by them, hence my question, I start a sentence, " a man who,," to what do you think I am referring?
If sex has nothing to do with being a person, then a person doesnt have any sex, which is evidently not true. You probably meant that the sex is not relevant to your definition of person. Am I right?
Would that be Mr Science? The question to you was WHO taught you gender identity?
Science shows gender identity ideology is a lie, you were asked who taught you this lie.
So do you want fries with that?
Temujin
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No. You are ludicrously wrong. The colour has nothing to do with being a motor car, do then a motor car has no colour. Owning a house has nothing to do with being an accountant, therefore accountants don't own houses. Your "logic" is false. Sex has nothing to do with being a person. It has nothing to do with a vast number of subjects, despite your obsession with it.
What a strange question. The dictionary, which records the common usage and meaning of words, is where anyone can find what is meant by gender identity. [/QUOTE]
Science shows gender identity ideology is a lie, you were asked who taught you this lie. [/QUOTE] Sorry, but this statement of yours is itself a lie. Biology has nothing to say about gender, as it is not a biological concept. Sociology has a lot to say about gender, including that "gender ideology is a lie" is a fringe belief of a minority of extremists.
Wrong. One of the dictionary definitions I gave you was "a human being regarded as an individual." The entity in the womb is an individual and a human being. Other dictionary definitions give the same sort of thing. So not wrong but correct. Dont misrepresent the evidence by accusing me!
Evidence; https://www.google.com/search?q=def...IABkgGIAZgJkgEEMTYuMZgBAKABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz
It matters what you understand by male and female. What is your answer?
the biological sex will be male, female or intersex. Explain to me what 12 weeks gestation has to do with genders like two spirit and neutrois?
Of course it is since you are a person and you went through a foetal stage. You just deny the reality.