For those who think the election in the U.S. was stolen

john james

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For those who think that the election was stolen, what do you think Biden and the rest can do to the U.S. in 4 years?
 

vibise

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I do not think the election was stolen.

But here is my opinion or what I think Biden will do:
I think Biden will appoint qualified people to run govt agencies.
He will listen to scientists when it comes to climate change.
He will have the federal govt take a leadership role in dealing with covid.
He will restore our alliances and rehabilitate our international reputation.
He will push for protections for workers, consumers, and the environment.
He will protect voting rights, civil rights, the Dreamers and the rights of women.

I am also convinced that if Repubs retain control of the Senate, that much of this will be blocked.
 

Woody50

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For those who think that the election was stolen, what do you think Biden and the rest can do to the U.S. in 4 years?
I don't know if the election was stolen.

As to your question, I think he'll do much the same as Obama. Maybe better (which is super easy) or worse (which will just take doing what Obama did).

Create division. Stifle the economy. Have one of the most scandal-riddled administrations ever.
 

vibise

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He will help China finish their goals.
Trump has already done plenty of helpful things for China.

He pulled us out of TPP, a trading coalition of Pacific Rim countries in which we would have been top dog and China was excluded. Now there is a coalition of Pacific Rim countries in which China is top dog and we are not involved.

China is putting millions of Uighurs in western China in concentration camps and engaging in genocide. Trump has not said a word.

China is reneging on their agreement to allow Hong Kong to have independent leadership and is brutally squashing peaceful demonstrations and jailing journalists, and Trump has said little to nothing.

Trump has imposed tariffs on Chinese goods that have upended the trade balance, raised prices for Americans, and forced taxpayers to pay for additional subsidies to farmers.
 

Woody50

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Trump has imposed tariffs on Chinese goods that have upended the trade balance, raised prices for Americans, and forced taxpayers to pay for additional subsidies to farmers.
Agreed. Trump sucked eggs there. One of the best presidents in my opinion--but he was brainless there (not saying that's the only policy on which he was brainless--but that was one of his consistent worst).
 

vibise

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I don't know if the election was stolen.

As to your question, I think he'll do much the same as Obama. Maybe better (which is super easy) or worse (which will just take doing what Obama did).

Create division. Stifle the economy. Have one of the most scandal-riddled administrations ever.
What scandals are you talking about? Obama had one of the most scandal-free administrations in modern times.
 

Woody50

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Can't name any, can you?
How many officials in the Obama administration were charged, convicted and sentenced?
LOL. Fast and Furious. Using the IRS as a weapon against his enemies (the Tea Party, to be specific), Bengazi, the Iran deal in which he lied about the "moderate" nature there. Obamacare ("You'll be able to keep your doctor..."). Spygate. Sheesh. You need to stop buying your head in the sand of the MSM, dude.
 

vibise

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LOL. Fast and Furious. Using the IRS as a weapon against his enemies (the Tea Party, to be specific), Bengazi, the Iran deal in which he lied about the "moderate" nature there. Obamacare ("You'll be able to keep your doctor..."). Spygate. Sheesh. You need to stop buying your head in the sand of the MSM, dude.
Fast and Furious was a continuation of a GWB program that was renamed under Obama.
The only organization that was fined by the IRS investigating false charitable organizations was a liberal one.
Bengazi? Seriously? 9 hearings and no charges against any one or any proof of malfeasance.
Iran deal was negotiated for years with our closest allies and Russia, and during the time it was in effect all inspections showed Iran was in compliance.
Obamacare has been a success. 20 million extra people have healthcare access that did not have it before, and a majority of Americans oppose ending the program.
Spygate? What is that? If you think Obama was spying on Trump, show the proof of that. None has ever been presented.

Not a single one of these things led to charges or convictions. Not one. All manufactured umbrage. The Obama administration was squeaky clean. OTOH, Trump was paying off porn stars and hiring people forced to resign for corruption and hiring people charged and convicted for lying and other criminal offenses.

I am not a dude.
 

Woody50

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Fast and Furious was a continuation of a GWB program that was renamed under Obama.
The only organization that was fined by the IRS investigating false charitable organizations was a liberal one.
Bengazi? Seriously? 9 hearings and no charges against any one or any proof of malfeasance.
Iran deal was negotiated for years with our closest allies and Russia, and during the time it was in effect all inspections showed Iran was in compliance.
Obamacare has been a success. 20 million extra people have healthcare access that did not have it before, and a majority of Americans oppose ending the program.
Spygate? What is that? If you think Obama was spying on Trump, show the proof of that. None has ever been presented.

Not a single one of these things led to charges or convictions. Not one. All manufactured umbrage. The Obama administration was squeaky clean. OTOH, Trump was paying off porn stars and hiring people forced to resign for corruption and hiring people charged and convicted for lying and other criminal offenses.

I am not a dude.
I can stick my fingers in my ears and scream "LA LA LA," too...
 

Woody50

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No. I don't run away. I just keep going...and going...and going...kinda like the Energizer Bunny. Sorry.
 

Bob1

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I can stick my fingers in my ears and scream "LA LA LA," too...
I noticed you didn't offer any refutation... and when it comes to acknowledging all of ******'s failures and scandals, sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming "LA LA LA!" is all you can do.
 

CrowCross

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Every sane person knows the election was stolen....Biden will not get in as the republicans will not verify the election...in doing so the fraud will be laid out for all to see.

As we all know in PA the courts violated the PA laws and changed to laws concerning voting....That was against the PA constitution which tells us only the legislation can change those laws...Just one example of voter fraud in PA...many, many more PA examples out there if you actually care to look.

Not to mention what happened in the other states.
 

J regia

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Every sane person knows the election was stolen....Biden will not get in as the republicans will not verify the election...in doing so the fraud will be laid out for all to see.
Even if the Senate could veto the choice of the 538 voters in your country, would all of the 52 Republican Senators vote Trump back in anyway, since I'm sure he would get no support from the other 48 senators?

Alas your fat loser boy will just go down in history as a bad smell that came and went.
 

Bob1

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Every sane person knows the election was stolen....Biden will not get in as the republicans will not verify the election...in doing so the fraud will be laid out for all to see.

As we all know in PA the courts violated the PA laws and changed to laws concerning voting....That was against the PA constitution which tells us only the legislation can change those laws...Just one example of voter fraud in PA...many, many more PA examples out there if you actually care to look.

Not to mention what happened in the other states.
Correction: sane people know that the election wasn't stolen and there was no voter fraud. *********** are just sore losers who can't accept that the orange one lost.
 
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