For those who think the election in the U.S. was stolen

Thistle

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Frankly, I will take what my family says rather than what you say. I don't believe you because I haven't seen a single assertion or belief made by you that I agree with.

I bet I pay more tax than you do, but then I get more benefits than you do. I don't expect your taxes to support me in any way. Nor do they, except where our interests are common and you also benefit from my taxes.

I understand very well. The irrational fear of "globalisation" is a real phenomenon, which I'm sure you will recognise.
Exactly, why would anyone be afraid of a bunch of global elitist who have bargained on behalf of themselves for 30 years at the expense of everyone else? Why that is just irrational, right? We have plenty more jobs we can return to China on behalf of the global elitists. Just a bunch of old selfish Americans wanting jobs. Who do they think they are? Soon we can get back to the serious work of shipping jobs from the developed world to China, while becoming zillionaires on the backs of the excess population. Hooray for the Global Elite! Just one small request: eat me last.
 

J regia

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Of course I care. Not only do I have relatives in the US, but what happens there affects my own country. We are close allies and trading partners. The notion of isolationism, xenophobia and ignorance of anywhere else in the world, is peculiar to Americans, and only a few of them.
Is that why they say "God Bless America" with hand on heart, and no one else?
 

Temujin

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Is that why they say "God Bless America" with hand on heart, and no one else?
I have no idea. Ritual, group chanting and magic spells are much more prevalent over there I believe. Putting one's hand on one's heart is presumably supposed to make you look more sincere. Something that has to be drummed into children from an early age. Actually BEING sincere is of no consequence whatsoever. Appearance over substance every time.
 

Temujin

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Exactly, why would anyone be afraid of a bunch of global elitist who have bargained on behalf of themselves for 30 years at the expense of everyone else? Why that is just irrational, right? We have plenty more jobs we can return to China on behalf of the global elitists. Just a bunch of old selfish Americans wanting jobs. Who do they think they are? Soon we can get back to the serious work of shipping jobs from the developed world to China, while becoming zillionaires on the backs of the excess population. Hooray for the Global Elite! Just one small request: eat me last.
I'm sorry, but you have drifted off into such a bizarre fantasy that you have become unintelligible. As an attempt at communicating ideas, your post is a failure.
 

CrowCross

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Frankly, I will take what my family says rather than what you say. I don't believe you because I haven't seen a single assertion or belief made by you that I agree with.

I bet I pay more tax than you do, but then I get more benefits than you do. I don't expect your taxes to support me in any way. Nor do they, except where our interests are common and you also benefit from my taxes.

I understand very well. The irrational fear of "globalisation" is a real phenomenon, which I'm sure you will recognise.
I bet the great USA gives your country a lot of money...and probably defends it.

Embrace your new world order. You're gonna love it.

Now, if you pay more taxes than me....what can I say...you seem to embrace socialism.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
I'm sorry,
Too big a subject to address here . . .
but you have drifted off into such a bizarre fantasy that you have become unintelligible.
Exactly! When backed into a corner, choose ignorance over acknowledgment. It's the very best bad argument available.
As an attempt at communicating ideas, your post is a failure.
That's right, stick to your guns. If you can fake sincerity you're golden.
 

CrowCross

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Do you think that the second coming will be on March 4th or on the Ides of March?
You're not an American either....what do you care?

The second coming will be after the trib...the rapture will be pre-trib...IMO...

When? As you know, no one knows the day or hour. Then again when it comes to theory...you don't really seem to know much at all. What you enjoy doing is spreading the lies of your father the devil....then again we all know that.
 

Temujin

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I bet the great USA gives your country a lot of money...and probably defends it.

Embrace your new world order. You're gonna love it.

Now, if you pay more taxes than me....what can I say...you seem to embrace socialism.
No. Sorry, you would lose that bet. I know people personally who were killed by American forces "defending" me. I have personally been shot at and bombed by terrorists funded by the "great USA".

If the new world order has fewer people who think like you in power, then I will love it.

I "embrace" a mixed economy with appropriate state provision. You wouldn't know socialism if it hit you with a stick.
 

Temujin

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Too big a subject to address here . . .

Exactly! When backed into a corner, choose ignorance over acknowledgment. It's the very best bad argument available.

That's right, stick to your guns. If you can fake sincerity you're golden.
You are not golden.
 

Bob Carabbio

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I pretty much agree.


I don't the USA will be judged directly but rather the systems will be judged. As you say, speculation.


True.


I have heard of several definitions for generation...I do remember the book 88 reasons for 1988.

Yup...could be 100 years from now...could be tomorrow.

2nd Peter 3: 3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.”
Ephesians 4:11-13 appears to present a "Unified"/MATURE visible church before the end of the age.

Those of us who were part of the Charismatic outpouring witnessed a precursor of that - during the few years in the '70s when "Denominations" became VERY unimportant, and we all just flowed together as Christians who all saw a higher level of spirituality than our various "theologies" presented. And then, of course, like all "Seasons of refreshing" it ended around '78 or so - and we went back to "Church business as usual".

The MATURE Visible Church of Eph 4 isn't even on the radar - yet. The color of the carpet in the sanctuary is still the IMPORTANT thing. and 2 Chr 7:14 (If MY PEOPLE - etc.) hasn't occurred yet.

BUT HEY!! I still have my copy of "88 reasons" up in the book case - it PROVES Biblically that THE RAPTURE will occur in the fall of '88. Except -
 

CrowCross

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No. Sorry, you would lose that bet. I know people personally who were killed by American forces "defending" me. I have personally been shot at and bombed by terrorists funded by the "great USA".

If the new world order has fewer people who think like you in power, then I will love it.

I "embrace" a mixed economy with appropriate state provision. You wouldn't know socialism if it hit you with a stick.
Sounds like your hiding behind something. Marxism is my guess.
 

Woody50

Active member
The irrational fear of "globalisation" is a real phenomenon, which I'm sure you will recognise.
You mean like the irrational fear of global cooling (ice age, as the "scientists" of the 70s and 80s said)...no--warming (wow...90s and 00s...opposite assertion!)...no--climate change (yes...it's always changed, as "scientists" have said since before the 70s)?

So much for "science."

Sheesh...and use a 'z' dude.
 

J regia

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You're not an American either....what do you care?

The second coming will be after the trib...the rapture will be pre-trib...IMO...

When? As you know, no one knows the day or hour. Then again when it comes to theory...you don't really seem to know much at all. What you enjoy doing is spreading the lies of your father the devil....then again we all know that.
And will the rapture be before or after Trump gets drummed out in two weeks, and will only Yanks be raptured?

And why didn't Jesus return, given that the biblical writers expected him to return in their lifetimes?
 
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CrowCross

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And will the rapture be before or after Trump gets drummed out in two weeks, and will only Yanks be raptured?

And why didn't Jesus return, given that the biblical writers expected him to return in their lifetimes?
only the Yanks will be raptured...you'll be saved for the lake of fire...
 

Electric Skeptic

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