For those who think the election in the U.S. was stolen

Bob1

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It’s so weird how he developed such a delusional and slavishly loyal cult following.

It seems clear that the only reason Trump cultists can’t accept the election results is that they find it impossible to accept that their Orange God is a loser.
Indeed, it is very strange how delusional and cultish the MAGA-mad-hatters are.
 

Woody50

Active member
Yes you do. Stop dodging. Why won't you acknowledge all the failures of your orange messiah?
My messiah is Christ.

You talking about Trump? I can barf his failings, as he has many. He says a lot of stuff (that will be his epitaph). He is hot-headed, irrational, self-serving, servile, and flat out lame. Charlottesville? Dufus. It took that tool HOW long to disavow Duke? If he'd had any social sense, he'd have had someone else tweeting for him. He definitely increased the temperature of the people at the capitol. I'm glad he's gone--just not happy at the alternative.

Your turn. The same can be said about most politicians. Why won't you acknowledge all the failures of your messiah? Dunno who that is, but you certainly worship someone. What's the name? Bernie? Jefferson? Biden? Cruz? Douglas? McConnell? Pelosi? Lincoln?

You go ahead and worship people, dude. Not my thing.
 

Woody50

Active member
Fast and Furious was a continuation of a GWB program that was renamed under Obama.
Nope. It started in October of '09. Solid Obama scandal. Typical, though. Blame the previous administration for scandal, and take credit for benefits. Try again.
The only organization that was fined by the IRS investigating false charitable organizations was a liberal one.
Wrong again. Obama militarized the IRS by targeting conservative (Tea Party orgs, specifically) groups--led by Eric Holder...Obama's "Wing Man."
Bengazi? Seriously? 9 hearings and no charges against any one or any proof of malfeasance.
LOL. Sure. That's your defense? Blaming that terrorist attack on YouTube, then--after evidence was insurmountable--confessing two weeks later? This is where you're sticking your fingers in your ears.
Iran deal was negotiated for years with our closest allies and Russia, and during the time it was in effect all inspections showed Iran was in compliance.
No, it was based on a lie. Ben Rhodes admitted such when he laughed about selling the bill of goods to the media about the "moderate" movement of the mullahs.
Obamacare has been a success. 20 million extra people have healthcare access that did not have it before, and a majority of Americans oppose ending the program.
No. It's an epic failure. Affordable health care isn't a thing, and the number of uninsured has skyrocketed.
Spygate? What is that? If you think Obama was spying on Trump, show the proof of that. None has ever been presented.
More fingers in ears.
Not a single one of these things led to charges or convictions. Not one. All manufactured umbrage. The Obama administration was squeaky clean. OTOH, Trump was paying off porn stars and hiring people forced to resign for corruption and hiring people charged and convicted for lying and other criminal offenses.
Squeaky clean. Interesting. And then you deflect to Trump.

I am not a dude.
Dudette, then.
 

Bob1

Well-known member
My messiah is Christ.

You talking about Trump? I can barf his failings, as he has many. He says a lot of stuff (that will be his epitaph). He is hot-headed, irrational, self-serving, servile, and flat out lame. Charlottesville? Dufus. It took that tool HOW long to disavow Duke? If he'd had any social sense, he'd have had someone else tweeting for him. He definitely increased the temperature of the people at the capitol. I'm glad he's gone--just not happy at the alternative.

Your turn. The same can be said about most politicians. Why won't you acknowledge all the failures of your messiah? Dunno who that is, but you certainly worship someone. What's the name? Bernie? Jefferson? Biden? Cruz? Douglas? McConnell? Pelosi? Lincoln?

You go ahead and worship people, dude. Not my thing.
I don't have any messiah... politically, religiously, or otherwise.

I'm happy with Biden for the time being simply because of the fact that he ISN'T ******.
 

Woody50

Active member
I don't have any messiah... politically, religiously, or otherwise.

I'm happy with Biden for the time being simply because of the fact that he ISN'T ******.
I don't mind that answer at all. I totally understand, actually.

I didn't vote for him in 2016. I had not idea what he'd do when president. I honestly thought he'd make policy based on anyone who smiled at him. Boy, was I wrong.

I believe he made our country better in his time in office. I'm worried that his successor won't. I don't know, though...I was wrong in 2016 about a president's perceived intent.

So, if I may summarize your comment above, you're saying that you're happy with Biden because "not Trump," correct?
 

Bob1

Well-known member
I don't mind that answer at all. I totally understand, actually.

I didn't vote for him in 2016. I had not idea what he'd do when president. I honestly thought he'd make policy based on anyone who smiled at him. Boy, was I wrong.

I believe he made our country better in his time in office. I'm worried that his successor won't. I don't know, though...I was wrong in 2016 about a president's perceived intent.

So, if I may summarize your comment above, you're saying that you're happy with Biden because "not Trump," correct?
Yes, I'm happy with Biden for the time being because he isn't ******. ****** made America worse... plain and simple. I see Biden as someone who can at least do a better job... ****** didn't exactly set a high bar for accomplishing that.
 

Woody50

Active member
Yes, I'm happy with Biden for the time being because he isn't ******. ****** made America worse... plain and simple. I see Biden as someone who can at least do a better job... ****** didn't exactly set a high bar for accomplishing that.
How did 45 make America worse?

What evidence have you seen in Biden's time in Washington that makes you see him better?
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
How did 45 make America worse?
He pushed conspiracy theories which led to the deaths of 400,000 Americans. By his own metrics, he said 100,000 dead would have represented his administration doing a good job. So, we'll give him 100,000 bodies as something he truly couldn't have done anything about.

That leaves more than a quarter million citizens dead directly attributable to him and the actions of his administration.

The fact that this country never got in control of the pandemic also means the economic crash is his fault as well: bankruptcies, job losses, housing crisis, food insecurity - all of it.

That's just for starters...
 

Woody50

Active member
He pushed conspiracy theories which led to the deaths of 400,000 Americans. By his own metrics, he said 100,000 dead would have represented his administration doing a good job. So, we'll give him 100,000 bodies as something he truly couldn't have done anything about.
What conspiracy theories? Tell me what words he spoke, please.

I'd also like to know the metrics you attribute to him.

Understand, I'm just a deplorable. Use small words...

That leaves more than a quarter million citizens dead directly attributable to him and the actions of his administration.
I can make assertions without proof, too. Calm down, big W.

The fact that this country never got in control of the pandemic also means the economic crash is his fault as well: bankruptcies, job losses, housing crisis, food insecurity - all of it.

That's just for starters...
You watch CNN too much, bro.

Tell me, how does one get "in control" of a pandemic? You need to answer this. HOW?
 

Electric Skeptic

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What conspiracy theories? Tell me what words he spoke, please.

I'd also like to know the metrics you attribute to him.

Understand, I'm just a deplorable. Use small words...


I can make assertions without proof, too. Calm down, big W.


You watch CNN too much, bro.

Tell me, how does one get "in control" of a pandemic? You need to answer this. HOW?
In Trump's case, the first step would be telling his devotees that COVID is real and represents a present danger and that everybody should mask up and stay at home wherever possible.

He didn't to that. Instead he encouraged imbeciles to not just not wear masks, but to belittle and degrade those sensible enough to do so.

All of that - if nothing else - makes him culpable.
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
What conspiracy theories? Tell me what words he spoke, please.
COVID-19 was a Democrat hoax, it was under control, it was going to go away soon, we're doing fine, it was worse in Democrat states than in Republican ones, other countries were calling us and asking for advice, Democrats hoping more people will die, masks are a choice, etc. All of it. His behavior, his constant lying about it - the dead are his responsibility.

I can make assertions without proof, too. Calm down, big W.
Shut up, you twat :rolleyes:

Tell me, how does one get "in control" of a pandemic? You need to answer this. HOW?
I don't need to answer anything. Calm down, big W.

Other countries handled the pandemic fairly well, compared to the US.
 
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