johnny guitar
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Youb fail to understand the difference between ADOPTED sons and brothers and LITERAL sons and brothers.
Forgotten Trinity: The Son is not the Spirit.
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therefore Jesus is not God but the spirit of God. Do not believers also have the spirit of God in them? Does that make a believer God?
You seem to be denying that God has a son.
1 John 5:5
Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
Who is sending the spirit you call Jesus? Is it God his father?
Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
How so? Are you telling me that if you adopt a child you will treat him differently from those that are born from you? Isn't that hypocrisy? Will you tell those born from you not to call him their brother? There should be no difference between adopted sons and those born from you. The NT shows us that very clearly. According to your understanding, other believers are not your brothers. Do you call other believers brothers but don't consider them as brothers?
johnny guitar
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Believers are NOT my LITERAL brothers.
Next.................................
Photine
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The Spirit is God...
Acts 5:3-4
3Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
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God is a spirit...
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
The HS is the spirit that was in the apostles...That is what the passage means when it says...You have not lied just to human beings but to God. The apostles were not God because the spirit of God was in them. The same spirit was is Jesus therefore it does not make Jesus God either.
Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
If they are not your literal brothers then they are not your brothers at all... Is God your literal father?
Photine
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You just said the Spirit of God isn't God... genius.
No, I did not...I said the same thing that Jesus said in Jn 4:24 God is a spirit.
The spirit of God is the spirit of God.
Do you disagree that God is a spirit?
Photine
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Newbirth said:
therefore Jesus is not God but the spirit of God.
You said Jesus is the Spirit of God.
So you're saying the Holy Spirit isn't God.
Jesus is not god Jesus is the son of God he has the spirit of God just as believers have the spirit of God.
I was simply making a point that Jesus is not God
The HS is the spirit of God. God is the father of spirits.
Revelation 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Revelation 1:4
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Photine
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Photine
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Acts 5:3-4
3Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit
You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
And the Holy Spirit is God...
And Jesus is that Spirit (2 Cor 3:17)..
So Jesus is God and you are guilty of Eternal Sin.
johnny guitar
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NOT my literal brothers and God AIN'T my literal Father. ONLY Jesus Christ can make that claim.
Photine
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No.. you said Jesus is the Spirit of God..
Then you said the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit..
And the Holy Spirit is God..
So you're actually saying He IS God but you're not willing to admit it or accept it..
how is what I said false?
Newbirth said:
Jesus is not god Jesus is the son of God he has the spirit of God just as believers have the spirit of God.
Here is my proof where Jesus said he is the son of God...
John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
2 Cor 3:17 does not say Jesus is the spirit.
The verse does not say, Jesus.
This is what you said...
Photine said:
Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
That is Jesus.
...which is what I responded to...Based on what you said...If the spirit of God is Jesus then Jesus cannot be God.
And vise versa...
The HS is the spirit of God...
According to Jesus, the father is God. And this is why Jesus cannot be God...It seems like your bible is missing pages.
John 13:3
Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;