Formation of the universe

e v e

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actually the tao realm was created long ago. this particular earth and/or stuff on it, was towed here, so yeah it carbon dates old, discussed in rg veda.

eden and God’s creation is a different realm altogether, not part of this universe.
 

Cody

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https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-geophysical/chapter/formation-of-the-universe/

The universe formed about 13.5 billion years ago, when a singularity became unstable.
Internal pressure and centrifugal force overcame gravity, and the singularity collapsed... and expanded.
Over time the energy of the expansion cooled sufficiently to allow matter to form. This matter was sub-atomic particles.
The universe continued to expand, and to cool, allowing these particles to form neutrons, electrons, and protons.
These in turn bonded to form atoms.
These atoms clumped into dense clouds of hydrogen, which gained mass until they became hot enough to start a chain reaction. This was the birth of the first stars. These stars created the heavier atoms via atomic fusion... and via supernova explosions.

What do you believe caused the universe to exist?
 

CrowCross

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Mr. Laurier educated us with the following...."
The universe formed about 13.5 billion years ago, when a singularity became unstable.
Internal pressure and centrifugal force overcame gravity, and the singularity collapsed"

How big was the singularity? Wiki tells us "contained all the energy and spacetime of the Universe." The Planck guys tells us it was about 10-35 in length. Your article said it collapsed...how big was it then?

2 questions....how did all of the universe stuff fit into the singularity?
Where did the singularity come from?
 

Mr Laurier

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Mr. Laurier educated us with the following...."
The universe formed about 13.5 billion years ago, when a singularity became unstable.
Internal pressure and centrifugal force overcame gravity, and the singularity collapsed"

How big was the singularity? Wiki tells us "contained all the energy and spacetime of the Universe." The Planck guys tells us it was about 10-35 in length. Your article said it collapsed...how big was it then?

2 questions....how did all of the universe stuff fit into the singularity?
Where did the singularity come from?
I am just repeating the material that is readily available in any public library.
Material verified by countless cosmologists from around the world.

It was tiny. Smaller than this dot (.)
After it collapsed, it became huge. Expanding rapidly in all directions at relativistic speeds

Ok
It didn't. There was no "stuff". Only energy. There could be no "stuff" until well after the collapse. The first "stuff" was free electrons, protons, and neutrons. These could then form the first atoms. But the baby universe first had to cool sufficiently to allow energy to coalesce into matter.
It didnt. There was no place for it to come from. No place existed until the universe began.
 

CrowCross

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I am just repeating the material that is readily available in any public library.
Material verified by countless cosmologists from around the world.

It was tiny. Smaller than this dot (.)
After it collapsed, it became huge. Expanding rapidly in all directions at relativistic speeds

Ok
It didn't. There was no "stuff". Only energy. There could be no "stuff" until well after the collapse. The first "stuff" was free electrons, protons, and neutrons. These could then form the first atoms. But the baby universe first had to cool sufficiently to allow energy to coalesce into matter.
It didnt. There was no place for it to come from. No place existed until the universe began.
Where did theenergy come from?
 

Nouveau

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Because things don't just pop into existence without a cause.
We don't have any experience or observations of universe-beginnings to know whether or not they tend to be caused. All caused beginnings we know of are instances of causes existing prior to their effects, which is impossible where the effect is the beginning of time itself.
 

Mr Laurier

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That answer doesn't make any sense. What do you think caused the universe to exist?
It makes sense. You want a named entity that made a decision to cause the universe to exist?
I dont have one.
I have centrifugal force, and pressure. Thats it. Both acting within the rules of reality.
 
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