Four more Oath Keepers found guilty of seditious conspiracy for Jan6

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Four members of the far-right Oath Keepers group were convicted of seditious conspiracy Monday, joining founder Stewart Rhodes in being found guilty by a jury of plotting to keep President Donald Trump in power by force.

Seditious conspiracy charges are rarely used and even more rarely successful, making the verdict a significant victory for the Justice Department. Of the nearly 1,000 people charged with committing crimes at the Capitol on Jan. 6, only 14 were charged with seditious conspiracy, identified by the Justice Department as not just participants in a violent mob but leaders using brutality to further a political plot. In November, the same prosecution team failed to convict three associates of the Oath Keepers of the crime.

At Rhodes’s trial only he and Florida Oath Keepers leader Kelly Meggs were found guilty of conspiring to commit sedition, while three associates were convicted of less politically loaded felonies that did not require plans to use force. The Oath Keepers verdict — which came after the jury deliberated for about 13 hours — comes as five members of the Proud Boys face trial down the hall on seditious conspiracy charges.

So, 1000 people charged so far, with the most serious charges so far against the terrorist groups Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

More trials to come, and hopefully, more charges.
 
No surprise since it is the KKK DC courts. That is why they try them there. A stacked deck and they believe they hold no moral responsibility to get the defendants a fair shake with a more objective jury pool. They will probably get out early or their convictions will be overturned in the future if there is any real justice here. As is, they are political prisoners. Trump supporters=terrorists in their twisted minds. Oath Keepers was the same group Ray Epps supposedly belonged to. They are out (not in jail) awaiting sentencing. It can be overturned on withholding exculpatory evidence. Like all the missing tapes or information on justice dept embeds. Including Homeland security. If they are such dangerous terrorists why are they not in jail? Using brutality excludes armed. They were not armed with guns and had no plan to overturn or invade. Sounds like round one. Round two will be in the future and it they are released the boot-lick media will probably ignore. ;)


Defense attorneys sought to downplay violent messages as mere bluster and said the Oath Keepers came to Washington to provide security at events before the riot. They seized on prosecutors’ lack of evidence that the Oath Keepers had an explicit plan to storm the Capitol before Jan. 6 and told jurors that the extremists who attacked the Capitol acted spontaneously like thousands of other rioters.

“They left evidence out and they picked and chose what they wanted,” said William Lee Shipley, an attorney for Minuta.
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We need a timeline on events like when was unarmed Ashli Babbitt shot to death and what effects that had on the crowd. It had to permeate the crowd an unarmed female was shot to death. That probably incited the crowd.

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When news of her (Ashli Babbitt) death spread through the crowd that day, protesters became enraged at police, which led to many of the altercations captured on video and in photographs. Four dead Trump supporters ran counter to the Democrats’ narrative that January 6 was an armed insurrection by lethal white supremacists aimed at overthrowing the seat of government power. Lawmakers, not protesters, were supposed to be the victims; headlines announcing the deaths of four Americans protesting the incoming president threatened to seize the spin.

Kelly, Julie. January 6: How Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right (p. 139). Bombardier Books. Kindle Edition.
 
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Everyone is cheering this conviction and so has nothing to say about it?
The false convictions are as common in D.C, as false stories by Fake News.

Mueller got indictments for some total imaginary Russians.
The clapping seals went bezerk.

How often must left wingers pivot to Trump to confirm their appetite for false stories?

-Russian collusion
-Trump called Neo-nazis "fine people"
-Jussie Smollett
-Bubba wallace
-Covington kids
-Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot
-Kavanaugh rape
-Trump pee tape
-Covid lab leak was a conspiracy theory
-Border agents whipped migrants
-Trump saved nuclear secrets at Mar-A-Largo
-Steele dossier
-Russian bounties on US soldiers in Afghanistan
-Trump said drinking bleach would fight COVID
-Andrew Cuomo best COVID leadership
-Muslim travel ban
-Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation
-Trump built cages for migrant kids
-Austere religious scholar
-Trump overfed Koi fish in Japan
-Build back better will pay for itself
-Trump tax cuts only benefitted the rich
-Cloth masks prevent covid
-If you get vaccinated, you won't catch Covid
-SUV killed parade marchers
-Trump used tear gas to clear a crowd for Bible photo
-Putin price hike
-Ivermectin is a horse dewormer not for humans
-Mostly peaceful protests
-Trump overpowered secret service for wheel of "The Beast"
-Officer Sicknick was murdered by protestors
-January 6 was insurrection
-Trump knocked a reporter's disability
-BYU students hurled racist insults at Duke volleyball player

The most dishonest/malicious left wingers pivot to Trump when we call out their lies.

h/t Harry L
 
The false convictions are as common in D.C, as false stories by Fake News.

Mueller got indictments for some total imaginary Russians.
The clapping seals went bezerk.

How often must left wingers pivot to Trump to confirm their appetite for false stories?

-Russian collusion
-Trump called Neo-nazis "fine people"
-Jussie Smollett
-Bubba wallace
-Covington kids
-Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot
-Kavanaugh rape
-Trump pee tape
-Covid lab leak was a conspiracy theory
-Border agents whipped migrants
-Trump saved nuclear secrets at Mar-A-Largo
-Steele dossier
-Russian bounties on US soldiers in Afghanistan
-Trump said drinking bleach would fight COVID
-Andrew Cuomo best COVID leadership
-Muslim travel ban
-Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation
-Trump built cages for migrant kids
-Austere religious scholar
-Trump overfed Koi fish in Japan
-Build back better will pay for itself
-Trump tax cuts only benefitted the rich
-Cloth masks prevent covid
-If you get vaccinated, you won't catch Covid
-SUV killed parade marchers
-Trump used tear gas to clear a crowd for Bible photo
-Putin price hike
-Ivermectin is a horse dewormer not for humans
-Mostly peaceful protests
-Trump overpowered secret service for wheel of "The Beast"
-Officer Sicknick was murdered by protestors
-January 6 was insurrection
-Trump knocked a reporter's disability
-BYU students hurled racist insults at Duke volleyball player

The most dishonest/malicious left wingers pivot to Trump when we call out their lies.

h/t Harry L
Even Putin criticized Biden et all of holding political prisoners while pointing at Russia.


What did Putin mean by 'double standards'?​

Mr Putin reserved some of his most stinging criticism for US condemnation of a crackdown on anti-government protests by Moscow's regional ally, Belarus. He hit back by suggesting the US Capitol rioters were being treated unfairly.


"They weren't just a crowd of robbers and rioters," Mr Putin said of the Trump supporters who stormed Congress on 6 January and temporarily suspended a session to certify Mr Biden as the winner of last November's election. "Those people had come with political demands."
When the forum moderator at the St Petersburg International Economic Forum suggested Mr Putin's comments about the Capitol riot could see him banned from US social media platforms, the Russian leader drew applause from the audience by retorting: "I don't give a damn about being blocked somewhere."
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Biden

Capitol protesters went “into the Capitol [to] kill a police officer.”

How can they expect an impartial jury or the presumption of innocence when the President of the US has already convicted them of the attempted murder of a police officer?

 
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Even Putin criticized Biden et all of holding political prisoners while pointing at Russia.
Patriotic Americans don't care about what Putin has to say about American politicians.

They do care, however, that seditious cowards are locked up and prevented from doing harm to this nation.
 
Patriotic Americans don't care about what Putin has to say about American politicians.
Right-wingers certainly shouldn't, because they don't care what Brits have to say about US politicans...

Oh - when foreigners say something you agree with, you care? Of course.
 
Right-wingers certainly shouldn't, because they don't care what Brits have to say about US politicans...

Oh - when foreigners say something you agree with, you care? Of course.
especially when it is Putin, who seems to have become a favorite of at least some RWers
 
especially when it is Putin, who seems to have become a favorite of at least some RWers
I honestly cannot fathom where this sudden support for Russia - over Ukraine - came from... is it because it's been couched as "Ukraine is full of Nazis"?
 
especially when it is Putin, who seems to have become a favorite of at least some RWers
Any bottles filled with urine or molotov cocktails? Putin simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the Biden Presidency. Biden hypocrisy as viewed by the world snapshot. Servile media does not control everything. So how much do you think the crowd was incited by the news the DC cops shot and killed an unarmed female? How many rubber bullets and how much tear gas was used by DC police against Trump supporters?


 
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I honestly cannot fathom where this sudden support for Russia - over Ukraine - came from... is it because it's been couched as "Ukraine is full of Nazis"?
Don't forget that Trump held a high opinion of Putin when he was POTUS and even called the Ukraine invasion "smart" and "savvy".

Thuggish leaders seem to be very appealing to some so-called conservatives.
 
Any bottles filled with urine or molotov cocktails? Putin simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the Biden Presidency. Biden hypocrisy as viewed by the world snapshot. Servile media does not control everything. So how much do you think the crowd was incited by the news the DC cops shot and killed an unarmed female? How many rubber bullets and how much tear gas was used by DC police against Trump supporters?

And you take seriously the criticisms from Putin who disallows protests in Russia and poisons and jails his political opponents?
 
And you take seriously the criticisms from Putin who disallows protests in Russia and poisons and jails his political opponents?
Yup. I think he has a legit point. The world can see the injustice of J.6 where the Dems cheated at elections and did not provide extra security when they knew what was coming. They set it up. It won't be long and we will probably be in a hot war with Putin. He will escalate because he considers war with the west inevitable and has been planning.

Why the two faced standards from the left?
 
Yup. I think he has a legit point. The world can see the injustice of J.6 where the Dems cheated at elections and did not provide extra security when they knew what was coming. They set it up. It won't be long and we will probably be in a hot war with Putin. He will escalate because he considers war with the west inevitable and has been planning.

Why the two faced standards from the left?
Putin should never be taken seriously, especially his criticisms of the West.

There is no evidence of a stolen election.

Jan6 occurred during the Trump administration, and security of the Capitol should have been provided by the feds. Pleas from Pelosi and others in the Capitol were ignored or slow-walked.

As we can clearly see, Putin's military is pretty dysfunctional if it could not easily and quickly beat the Ukrainians. I don't think he is crazy enough to initiate a war against the NATO countries and the USA.
 
Putin should never be taken seriously, especially his criticisms of the West.
Opinion. Putin pointed out Biden regime hypocrisy. J.6 arrests are political prisoners. Wash DC is KKK courts. The world knows.
Jan6 occurred during the Trump administration, and security of the Capitol should have been provided by the feds.
Trump cannot install federal troops in DC without requests.
Pleas from Pelosi and others in the Capitol were ignored or slow-walked.
That is a lie.
As we can clearly see, Putin's military is pretty dysfunctional if it could not easily and quickly beat the Ukrainians. I don't think he is crazy enough to initiate a war against the NATO countries and the USA.
Putin considers war with the west inevitable and NATO forces are mostly a joke. They are depleted because the US has been doing the heavy lifting. You do not seem to realize Putin probably has nuc subs off the east coast of the US with hypersonic nuc missiles. He has got missiles pointed at all Euro cities. Putin will continue to pound Ukraine into the stone age. Europe does not want war esp over Ukraine. The whole thing reaks of continual escalation. The 101st is stationed over there. A hot war can break out any time and probably will unless Biden blinks. I don't think they take Biden or our military seriously. We are depleted and demoralized and they know it.

ANTIFA the biggest armed militia in the United States.

 
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Yup. I think he has a legit point. The world can see the injustice of J.6 where the Dems cheated at elections and did not provide extra security when they knew what was coming. They set it up. It won't be long and we will probably be in a hot war with Putin. He will escalate because he considers war with the west inevitable and has been planning.

Why the two faced standards from the left?

I see you are still defending the Jan 6th insurrectionists.

But you thought you would get me by insisting I support AntiFa, which I never did.

Howz ’bout them apples?
 
Patriotic Americans don't care about what Putin has to say about American politicians.

They do care, however, that seditious cowards are locked up and prevented from doing harm to this nation.
Are you not the same people cheering on the rioters in 2020? CHAZ ring a bell?
I'm not people. I'm a person.

You employ the tactics and support the efforts of one of this nation's enemies.

You are not a patriotic American.
 
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