God?Hello, brothers and sisters. I think from the title of this post you know what I am intending with this post. Freedom is meaningless without something or someone to be free FROM.
So, if you believe in free will, from what (or from whom) are you free?
We are free from saving ourselves by the law....
So, if you believe in free will, from what (or from whom) are you free?
Which one of us and to which answer are you responding to?Touché. I wish I'd stop trying that.
On that note, I'm not a huge fan of Piper, but I like his analogy of the Law and a roller coaster. Have you heard that?
So, you're free from God? Sorry, I don't know you. Forgive me if we're speaking the same language.God?
I was responding to PeanutGallery. It's in the thread.Which one of us and to which answer are you responding to?
And by the way, hang out with as for a while...Touché. I wish I'd stop trying that.
On that note, I'm not a huge fan of Piper, but I like his analogy of the Law and a roller coaster. Have you heard that?
I don't think we're free from God, but maybe those who believe in Free Will think that?So, you're free from God? Sorry, I don't know you. Forgive me if we're speaking the same language.
I'm a 5-Point Calvinist; a Reformed, Independent Fundamental Baptist. I'm probably the most Liberal 5-Pointer you will meet; a Compatibalist. I'm an elementary ABC 123 'mini theologian'; I can say the same thing as high Theologians, but at the Beginner level. I'm a New Calvinist like John Piper; a fan of Fullerism and Duty Faith...So, you're free from God? Sorry, I don't know you. Forgive me if we're speaking the same language.
Praise God for you, Rev (okay if I call you Rev?).I'm a 5-Point Calvinist; a Reformed, Independent Fundamental Baptist. I'm probably the most Liberal 5-Pointer you will meet; a Compatibalist. I'm an elementary ABC 123 'mini theologian'; I can say the same thing as high Theologians, but on the Beginner level. I'm a New Calvinist like John Piper; a fan of Fullerism and Duty Faith...
An Evangelical, Born Again Christian; a Sinner Saved by Grace...
I think they do, even if they don't admit it. Inconsistency drives me nuts.I don't think we're free from God, but maybe those who believe in Free Will think that?
Will do.And by the way, hang out with as for a while...
It's fine to call me Rev; my friends call me Bruiser. I watched your conversations elsewhere, it looks like you can debate...Praise God for you, Rev (okay if I call you Rev?).
I pray that we have many discussions on this forum that bring glory to our Sovereign God and Savior, Jesus Christ. I am also a 5-pointer, some would call me hyper, but I disagree. I'm curious about the Compatibilism--it's inconsistent, IMNSHO. I'd love to talk with you more.
Thanks for the response, Rev. Nice to meet you!
If you are curious about Compatiblism yoy might be interested in this thread...I'm curious about the Compatibilism--it's inconsistent, IMNSHO. I'd love to talk with you more.
Where does Compatibilism end?It's fine to call me Rev; my friends call me Bruiser. I watched your conversations elsewhere, it looks like you can debate...
I'm a Compatibalist in the sense I think God's Determinism and our determinism regarding his Decree are Compatible, and are independent/Individual Causations resulting in the same outcome; similar to how God is Triune and God is One is also Compatible. I noticed you defending the Trinity on the Christian Science Board or something like it. I think all Christians are Compatibalists from time to time. Jesus is God, Jesus is Man; that's Compatibalism...
But even though we are all Compatibalists, we argue where Compatibalism begins; and where it should end. My tactic is to show us all just how much we really have in common...
So, "compatibilism" is a word to help others understand God's sovereignty? I've never heard the word, but what you shared makes sense. Piper once said, "Yes, Satan is our Enemy...and he's on a leash." I disagree. Satan is a puppet, solely created for God's glory. No leash. He just does what God has decreed...always. Every move.If you are curious about Compatiblism yoy might be interested in this thread...
Does Gods Meticulous Determination, Of All Things, Make God Evil?
The reason I’m sharing this particular exchange is because it includes assumptions and arguments that are typical and that show up in Calvinist forums like this one with increasing frequency. Some people simply cannot conceive of God being absolutely sovereign so they attempt to argue against...forums.carm.org
Freedom to choose, without coercion, predestination, or predetermination.Hello, brothers and sisters. I think from the title of this post you know what I am intending with this post. Freedom is meaningless without something or someone to be free FROM.
So, if you believe in free will, from what (or from whom) are you free?
External compulsion. It is however certainly not absolute but limited by our character and God's sovereigntyHello, brothers and sisters. I think from the title of this post you know what I am intending with this post. Freedom is meaningless without something or someone to be free FROM.
So, if you believe in free will, from what (or from whom) are you free?