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[Temujin]

Fundie Darweenie questions.

You seem frustrated that you can't prove your Darwinism myths.

On the contrary. Evolution is accepted beyond reasonable doubt. You seem frustrated that your unreasonable doubts are not taken seriously. You should be used to it by now.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

It is bat soup crazy when atheeists say there is NOGOD and jump to place limits on NOGOD.
On the abortion board they accuse NOGOD of doing abortions.

But they can't show us where. How can a mom go to God's secret abortion chambers and there is no address?

 

[Temujin]

It is bat soup crazy when atheeists say there is NOGOD and jump to place limits on NOGOD.
On the abortion board they accuse NOGOD of doing abortions.

But they can't show us where. How can a mom go to God's secret abortion chambers and there is no address?

There are times when you post complete drivel. This is one of those times.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

There are times when you post complete drivel. This is one of those times.

If you took some science classes, you could evolve beyond juvenile slander. Maybe even join discussion with adults.

 

[MrIntelligentDesign]

On the contrary. Evolution is accepted beyond reasonable doubt. You seem frustrated that your unreasonable doubts are not taken seriously. You should be used to it by now.

WHAT?? Evolution is accepted beyond reasonable doubt?? Aum Shinrikyou, a Japanese religious freaks, too who had sprayed sarin gas in Tokyo Rail Train accepted that invented religion... Because somebody accepted invented Evolution, Evolution is already right? Look at Geocentric vs Heliocentric...

 

[The Pixie]

WHAT?? Evolution is accepted beyond reasonable doubt??

Yes.

Aum Shinrikyou, a Japanese religious freaks, too who had sprayed sarin gas in Tokyo Rail Train accepted that invented religion...

A religion that is NOT accepted as mainstream science, so very different to evolution.

Because somebody accepted invented Evolution, Evolution is already right?

Not quite.

Firstly, evolution was discovered, not invented. It has been going on for billions of years, It was only discovered in the nineteenth century.

Also, all science is tentative, so it is possible evolution is wrong. However, after well over a century of biologists finds vast amounts of supporting evidence, the chances of that happening are vanishingly small.

Look at Geocentric vs Heliocentric...

I am curious what your point is here. The geocentric model was accepted as the mainstream view because that is what appeared to be right. The heliocentric model replaced it because more evidence came to light, and it was better able to explain.

This illustrates the tentative nature of science.

Today, there is a vast amount of evidence that points to the heliocentric model, just as there is with evolution, and while both are tentative is is exceedingly unlikely either will be replaced.

 

[The Pixie]

If you took some science classes, you could evolve beyond juvenile slander.

Just so you know, it is not slander if it is true.

 

[Temujin]

If you took some science classes, you could evolve beyond juvenile slander. Maybe even join discussion with adults.

But then I would be unable to talk to you.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Darwin is liked by evolutionists because he liberated science from the straitjacket of observation and opened the door to storytellers. This gave "professional" evolutionists job security so they can wander through biology labs as if they belong there. --- David Coppedge

 

[Cornelius]

YHWH Elohim is the framer (or demiurge) of the material world alone, aka, “the god of this world” (2 cor 4:4). There is also the intelligible world, presumably where angels exist, either potentially or actually. Above them is the Lord of Spirits, the Most High God, “the El”, the Source of all things, of both spirit (intelligible) and matter.

Your perspective is earthly, narrow, limited, because you are unable or unwilling to see the Big Picture.

You know the dualism you think solves the whole dilemma of what you call "genocide" (Noah's Flood), makes it hard to understand how the "evil" god is powerful enough to make this corrupted world, yet your other "good" God of the NT couldn't prevent or undo it, yet was powerful enough to send Jesus and to save...But not to simply fix it...

The only reason the Gnostics adopted this is because they couldn't comprehend how one source behind everything could be reconciled with the existence of evil: pain, sin, etc, which is of course why they rejected the crucifixion or that Jesus even had a body. But if you really think that's a problem, or that it's genocide to kill sinners, then you must assume that everyone is fundamentally innocent; kind of like Greek and Roman philosophy (Marcus Aurelius' Stoicism for example has him say (Meditations, Book 7): "Dig within. Within is the fountain of good. And it will ever bubble up if you will ever dig" - truly only spoken by a sheltered aristocrat like an emperor, the son of an emperor).

So when you repeat ancient neo-Pythagorean mixtures with Christianity, because that's what the Gnostics fundamentally are, just remember, your beliefs aren't anything new.

 

[docphin5]

You know the dualism you think solves the whole dilemma of what you call "genocide" (Noah's Flood), makes it hard to understand how the "evil" god is powerful enough to make this corrupted world, yet your other "good" God of the NT couldn't prevent or undo it, yet was powerful enough to send Jesus and to save...But not to simply fix it...

It is not hard to understand at all.

The Good God produced, begat, emanated another perfect thing, metaphorically called the “Son of God” possessing both Reason and Will. Everything was great until the will separated from reason and denied the source of both. Will suffered death and its body transmuted into imperfect matter producing us (“The logos became flesh”). The Good One ensured reason arose again in matter to become good again in us. At the appointed time imperfect matter is returned to its original state as extremely ordered energy ruled over by the souls (wills) submitted to reason.

The only reason the Gnostics adopted this is

you have no idea why the gnostics believed what they did and will never know until you have objectively studied what they wrote. Until then, you are repeating statements based on error or ignorance.

because they couldn't comprehend how one source behind everything could be reconciled with the existence of evil: pain, sin, etc, which is of course why they rejected the crucifixion or that Jesus even had a body.

blah, blah, blah. When you have actually studied what they wrote then you might have something useful to say.

But if you really think that's a problem, or that it's genocide to kill sinners,

Strawman argument. Nobody said it is genocide to kill sinners. I support the death penalty for the most heinous crimes. Whereas, genocide is defined as killing all members of a society, to include innocent women, and children, in order to wipe them out, just as YHWH instructed others to do for him. So get your facts straight before you rant. Even civilized countries do not condone genocide.

then you must assume that everyone is fundamentally innocent; kind of like Greek and Roman philosophy (Marcus Aurelius' Stoicism for example has him say (Meditations, Book 7): "Dig within. Within is the fountain of good. And it will ever bubble up if you will ever dig" - truly only spoken by a sheltered aristocrat like an emperor, the son of an emperor).

News flash! That happens to be a fundamental principle of our country’s legal system, that is, innocent until proven guilty. I recommend some remedial instruction on what our country upholds as justice.

So when you repeat ancient neo-Pythagorean mixtures with Christianity, because that's what the Gnostics fundamentally are, just remember, your beliefs aren't anything new.

I agree it is nothing new. This was what the original christianity believed.