It appears to me you're the one not reading. None of these scriptures say faith is before regeneration.
If you know what regeneration is they all do
Regeneration imparts life
So when you read of one physical alive going from death to life regeneration has occurred
Heb. 12:9, John 1:13, and Ja. 1:18 says that God begat us. Do you think Paul is literally saying he begat them? Is this what you think?
Only that he was instrumental
how was he instrumental
by preaching the gospel
None of these scriptures say that belief comes before regeneration. God regenerated us through the word of God, then we believed it.
Sorry The word of God held in unbelief does not profit
Hebrews 4:2 (KJV 1900) — 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
1 Peter 1:22–25 (KJV 1900) — 22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
belief preceded the purification
God begat us of His own will, not from our so-called free-will faith which you advocate. John concurs in John 1:13.
If you are not a Calvinist what are you? Lutheran perhaps
You say the same things and use the same scriptures
Joh 1:13 simply notes it God who regenerates as man cannot regenerate himself
He regenerates those
John 1:12 (KJV 1900) — 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
who received Christ
(5) The “children of God.”—Those who are “begotten of God” are ipso facto “children of God” (tékna theoú,
Jn 1:12;
11:52;
1 Jn 3:1,
2,
10;
5:2).1
1 R. Law,
“Johannine, Theology, The,” ed. James Orr et al., The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia (Chicago: The Howard-Severance Company, 1915), 1703.
CHILDREN OF GOD. Persons in this category are only those who of the fallen race are regenerated as a result of faith in Christ1
1 Merrill F. Unger,
“Children of God,” ed. R.K. Harrison, The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary (Chicago: Moody Press, 1988).
Children of God (tekna theou). In the full spiritual sense, not as mere offspring of God true of all men (Acts 17:28). Paul's phrase huioi theou (Galatians 3:26) for believers, used also by Jesus of the pure in heart (Matthew 5:9), does not occur in John's Gospel (but in Rev. 21:7). It is possible that John prefers ta tekna tou theou for the spiritual children of God whether Jew or Gentile (John 11:52) because of the community of nature (teknon from root tek-, to beget). But one cannot follow Westcott in insisting on "adoption" as Paul's reason for the use of huioi since Jesus uses huioi theou in Matthew 5:9. Clearly the idea of regeneration is involved here as in John 3:3.
Word Pictures in the New Testament.
Vincent agrees
Sons (τέκνα)
Rev., more correctly, children. Son is υἱός. Τέκνον, child (τίκτω, to bring forth), denotes a relation based on community of nature
Word Studies in the New Testament.
It doesn't say that. It says that they didn't profit, not "weren't regenerated." You are obviously reading into the scripture your agenda.
Seriously ?
Being regenerated is not profit?
Come on now
Faith is an act of the heart/spirit, not an act of natural will. According to 1 Cor. 2:14, a man must be spiritual before he can act on spiritual truth favorably. Otherwise, he thinks it foolish or wrong. God must bring a person to spiritual mindedness before he can act favorably to the gospel.
Faith involves the heart the mind and the will
Biblical Faith is entrusting yourself to Christ
that requires an act of the will
According to 1Cor 2:14 it is man apart from God's wisdom which comes by revelation
Given revelation God's wisdom man can believe
as Paul notes
Romans 10:14–17 (KJV 1900) — 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
LOL, you think one can BELIEVE that Jesus is the Christ (namely his own Christ), and not have FAITH in Him? Nonsense!
One can believe facts but not have faith
If one will not commit to Christ belief will not profit
No, you're wrong and taking scripture out of context. It says in 5:28 that those in the graves will hear His voice, and in 5:29 those people shall be resurrected. The context is resurrection, so 5:25 is literal and physical resurrection.
Sorry but because John 5:28 is speaking of the physical resurection is no evidence John 5:25 is
There are a number of factors by which they differ
The physical resurrection in 5:28 is not stated to be
now is John 5:25 the spiritual resurrection is
The only resurrection of men during Christs time is the spiritual resurrection regeneration
John 5:28 speaks of those in the grave John 5:25 does not
John 5:28 speaks of a general resurrection and judgment
John 5:25 speaks only of those who hear
John 5:28 is all in the grave
John 5:24–29 (KJV 1900) — 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and
now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which
all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
It doesn't say faith comes before regeneration. You are assuming a chronology that isn't there.
Rather you fail to recognize what regeneration is
Regeneration is the impartation of spiritual life
Regeneration makes one a child of God
regeneration is a spiritual resurrection
A living man receiving life notes regeneration has transpired
One being a child of God
notes regeneration has occurred
One undersgoing a spiritrual resurrection hads been regenerated
Faith precedes having life
Faith precedes becoming a child of God
Faith precedes any spiritual resurrection
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