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Duh they were not born again and i am not trying to claim they were


They were unregenerate and received the word of the kingdom with joy

that is the p;oint you keep ignoring

What does "receive the word of the kingdom," mean, Tom? You can't tell me, because the parable doesn't say, therefore, you're left to assume a meaning, and you're assumption is biased toward your systematic.

Much ado about nothing. ?
You've not provided any asked for proof, but continue assuming your position is correct. That's arguing in a circle.
sorry but that was done already

Luke 8:11–13 (KJV 1900) — 11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.