Yahweh will increase
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Before I go into this, exactly what did God commission the church to do, legislated his moral laws to the unbelievers who have no power of the Holy Spirit to obey them and quite like the Scribes, Pharisees and hypocrites would have done?
Wasn’t it rather to go into all the world and preach the gospel unto all nations instead?
I personally don’t involve myself in voting anymore and the reason why, is because in the book of Daniel chapters 2 and 4, and also in Acts 1:6-8, we are told that the times and seasons for the rise and fall of Kings and Kingdoms is in God’s own power and not for us to decide.
A good reason for this, is that we really don’t know what we are doing and not being able to look into the hearts of the candidates, for if we did, we would never have shown God that we wanted a man like Donald J. Trump to be our President.
However, God indeed gave us what we wanted and along with it also the trouble that came with him, like the virus and the economic crash and the racial tensions and also the worse wild fires recorded in history and also damaging hurricanes and tornados as well.
This reminds me of when Israel wanted a King like the other nations and although God was displeased with them for this, he gave them what they wanted as well and also many problems to go along with their rebellions.
I believe that we have the same problem and yet we profess to believe in God’s Sovereignty and his election by grace.
However, if we had of left this in God’s business and power like the scriptures reveal that it belongs, surely we would have been much better off and God would have blessed us with much better leaders than what we have seen thus far.
Make no mistake about this however, for I am not talking about being apathetic here, but on the contrary I am talking about us diligently seeking and asking and trusting God in true faith for the best leaders possible to rule over us and while getting on with what business he gave unto us in preaching the gospel.
Also, I think we need to get it strait just exactly what Pro Life is from God’s perspective and viewpoint.
For it isn’t saving the unborn from death in the womb only to be born and then also die in the second death and which scripture reveals will happen to the greater majority of those who are born.
Now then, here is my question to all you who believe as I do in God’s Sovereign election by Grace.
So please tell me, how does the pro-life position align itself with God’s Sovereign election by grace?
Remember also, that God saved Moses and Jesus from death but both men’s parents were also believers and therefore obeying God by doing what they did.
Just go and search the book of Acts and you will not find the church ever being involved in any civil disobedience other than preaching the gospel message and teaching and baptizing those who believe.
Do you not believe that whoever God has determined to be his elect will indeed be born from the womb to repent and believe in Jesus and be born again by the Spirit?
Do you also believe that no one who is not one of God’s elect will be saved but instead die in the second death?
Then why are you in a hell bent fury to try to save the unborn from having to end up dying in the second death?
Wouldn’t you agree that it would be more merciful to leave this in the power of the Sovereign God.
Being that those who are his elect will indeed be born to repent and believe anyhow but those who aren’t, will end up dying in the second death even after they are saved from dying in the womb and which is far worse than them dying in the womb.
Wasn’t it rather to go into all the world and preach the gospel unto all nations instead?
I personally don’t involve myself in voting anymore and the reason why, is because in the book of Daniel chapters 2 and 4, and also in Acts 1:6-8, we are told that the times and seasons for the rise and fall of Kings and Kingdoms is in God’s own power and not for us to decide.
A good reason for this, is that we really don’t know what we are doing and not being able to look into the hearts of the candidates, for if we did, we would never have shown God that we wanted a man like Donald J. Trump to be our President.
However, God indeed gave us what we wanted and along with it also the trouble that came with him, like the virus and the economic crash and the racial tensions and also the worse wild fires recorded in history and also damaging hurricanes and tornados as well.
This reminds me of when Israel wanted a King like the other nations and although God was displeased with them for this, he gave them what they wanted as well and also many problems to go along with their rebellions.
I believe that we have the same problem and yet we profess to believe in God’s Sovereignty and his election by grace.
However, if we had of left this in God’s business and power like the scriptures reveal that it belongs, surely we would have been much better off and God would have blessed us with much better leaders than what we have seen thus far.
Make no mistake about this however, for I am not talking about being apathetic here, but on the contrary I am talking about us diligently seeking and asking and trusting God in true faith for the best leaders possible to rule over us and while getting on with what business he gave unto us in preaching the gospel.
Also, I think we need to get it strait just exactly what Pro Life is from God’s perspective and viewpoint.
For it isn’t saving the unborn from death in the womb only to be born and then also die in the second death and which scripture reveals will happen to the greater majority of those who are born.
Now then, here is my question to all you who believe as I do in God’s Sovereign election by Grace.
So please tell me, how does the pro-life position align itself with God’s Sovereign election by grace?
Remember also, that God saved Moses and Jesus from death but both men’s parents were also believers and therefore obeying God by doing what they did.
Just go and search the book of Acts and you will not find the church ever being involved in any civil disobedience other than preaching the gospel message and teaching and baptizing those who believe.
Do you not believe that whoever God has determined to be his elect will indeed be born from the womb to repent and believe in Jesus and be born again by the Spirit?
Do you also believe that no one who is not one of God’s elect will be saved but instead die in the second death?
Then why are you in a hell bent fury to try to save the unborn from having to end up dying in the second death?
Wouldn’t you agree that it would be more merciful to leave this in the power of the Sovereign God.
Being that those who are his elect will indeed be born to repent and believe anyhow but those who aren’t, will end up dying in the second death even after they are saved from dying in the womb and which is far worse than them dying in the womb.
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