God and the desire to save

brightfame52

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Sorry but you have no lexical or biblical support for that claim


The world hates Christ and his disciples

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
John 15:18 ¶ If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
1John 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

The world includes those who will never believe

John 12:47–48 —KJV
“And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

when in the context of Jesus saving, the world is the Sheep. Thats who came to give life to Jn 10

Or the World equates to the Church the body of Christ. Or the Elect
 

preacher4truth

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when in the context of Jesus saving, the world is the Sheep. Thats who came to give life to Jn 10

Or the World equates to the Church the body of Christ. Or the Elect
Oh, so the sheep are the entire world!

No!

WAIT!

"OR"

The sheep are only the body of Christ, the elect!

Son, please! You are one confused individual. You talk out all sides of your mouth, whichever side you need in a given moment, that's the side of your mouth you talk out of, at the expense of truth.
 

brightfame52

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Oh, so the sheep are the entire world!

No!

WAIT!

"OR"

The sheep are only the body of Christ, the elect!

Son, please! You are one confused individual. You talk out all sides of your mouth, whichever side you need in a given moment, that's the side of your mouth you talk out of, at the expense of truth.
Yes when speaking about salvation.
 

TomFL

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when in the context of Jesus saving, the world is the Sheep. Thats who came to give life to Jn 10

Or the World equates to the Church the body of Christ. Or the Elect
Sorry the sheep are not unbelievers

John 10:14 —KJV
“I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.”

your claim is anti biblical
 

TomFL

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The only ones God desires to save are His Sheep and they all will be saved.
Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

you are just unbiblical
 

brightfame52

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Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

you are just unbiblical
The only ones God desires to save are His Sheep and they all shall be saved and believe.
 

TomFL

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The only ones God desires to save are His Sheep and they all shall be saved and believe.
Scripture contradicted you

Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

you are just unbiblical and apparently an unashamed denier of scripture
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
Scripture contradicted you

Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

you are just unbiblical and apparently an unashamed denier of scripture
All the ones God desires to save shall be saved , He does what He desires Job 23 13
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
 

TomFL

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All the ones God desires to save shall be saved , He does what He desires Job 23 13
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
Where did you address any of this

Scripture contradicted you

Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

did you look up the word desires in both texts ?
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
Where did you address any of this

Scripture contradicted you

Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

did you look up the word desires in both texts ?
Those God desires to save and bring to the truth will be saved and brought to the truth ALL Of THEM.Job 23 13

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth
 

TomFL

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Those God desires to save and bring to the truth will be saved and brought to the truth ALL Of THEM.Job 23 13

13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth
Scripture contradicted you

you stated

The only ones God desires to save are His Sheep and they all shall be saved and believe.

Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

the part you miss they have to come to a knowledge of the truth that is believe
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
Scripture contradicted you

you stated



Your first problem is they are not unbelievers

your second problem

1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”

the part you miss they have to come to a knowledge of the truth that is believe
Scripture supports me. All who God desires to save and come to the knowledge of the truth shall be just that Job 23 13
 

TomFL

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Scripture supports me. All who God desires to save and come to the knowledge of the truth shall be just that Job 23 13
No scripture does not support

Only the theology of your own thinking supports you

God wants all people to come to a knowledge of the truth and be saved

he will only save those that believe however
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
No scripture does not support

Only the theology of your own thinking supports you

God wants all people to come to a knowledge of the truth and be saved

he will only save those that believe however
Yes it does. What does Job 23 13 say about what God desires?
 

TomFL

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Yes it does. What does Job 23 13 say about what God desires?
What did Paul say in 1Timothy

1 Timothy 2:3–6 (KJV 1900)
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

You just fail to recognize different levels of will
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
What did Paul say in 1Timothy

1 Timothy 2:3–6 (KJV 1900)
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

You just fail to recognize different levels of will
According to Job 23 13 does God do what He desires?
 

TomFL

Well-known member
According to Job 23 13 does God do what He desires?
What did Paul say in 1Timothy

1 Timothy 2:3–6 (KJV 1900)
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

You just fail to recognize different levels of will

Do you have any understanding of this ?
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
What did Paul say in 1Timothy

1 Timothy 2:3–6 (KJV 1900)
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

You just fail to recognize different levels of will

Do you have any understanding of this ?
God's Desire. So what does Jb 23 13 say about God's desire?
 
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