brightfame52
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when in the context of Jesus saving, the world is the Sheep. Thats who came to give life to Jn 10
Or the World equates to the Church the body of Christ. Or the Elect
God and the desire to save
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when in the context of Jesus saving, the world is the Sheep. Thats who came to give life to Jn 10
Or the World equates to the Church the body of Christ. Or the Elect
preacher4truth
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Oh, so the sheep are the entire world!
No!
WAIT!
"OR"
The sheep are only the body of Christ, the elect!
Son, please! You are one confused individual. You talk out all sides of your mouth, whichever side you need in a given moment, that's the side of your mouth you talk out of, at the expense of truth.
brightfame52
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Yes when speaking about salvation.
Sorry the sheep are not unbelievers
John 10:14 —KJV
“I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.”
your claim is anti biblical
brightfame52
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The only ones God desires to save are His Sheep and they all will be saved.
Your first problem is they are not unbelievers
your second problem
1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”
you are just unbiblical
brightfame52
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The only ones God desires to save are His Sheep and they all shall be saved and believe.
Scripture contradicted you
Your first problem is they are not unbelievers
your second problem
1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”
you are just unbiblical and apparently an unashamed denier of scripture
brightfame52
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All the ones God desires to save shall be saved , He does what He desires Job 23 13
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
Where did you address any of this
Scripture contradicted you
Your first problem is they are not unbelievers
your second problem
1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”
did you look up the word desires in both texts ?
brightfame52
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Those God desires to save and bring to the truth will be saved and brought to the truth ALL Of THEM.Job 23 13
13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth
Scripture contradicted you
you stated
Your first problem is they are not unbelievers
your second problem
1 Tim. 2:3–5 —ESV
“This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,
who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,”
the part you miss they have to come to a knowledge of the truth that is believe
brightfame52
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Scripture supports me. All who God desires to save and come to the knowledge of the truth shall be just that Job 23 13
No scripture does not support
Only the theology of your own thinking supports you
God wants all people to come to a knowledge of the truth and be saved
he will only save those that believe however
brightfame52
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Yes it does. What does Job 23 13 say about what God desires?
What did Paul say in 1Timothy
1 Timothy 2:3–6 (KJV 1900)
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
You just fail to recognize different levels of will
brightfame52
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According to Job 23 13 does God do what He desires?
What did Paul say in 1Timothy
1 Timothy 2:3–6 (KJV 1900)
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
You just fail to recognize different levels of will
Do you have any understanding of this ?
brightfame52
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God's Desire. So what does Jb 23 13 say about God's desire?
Do you have any understanding about different wills and desires ?