God and the desire to save

[TomFL]

Well, Jesus had sheep he had not gathered unto the fold yet, so, in that state of time they were yet unbelievers; John 10:16 (note also John 11:52 which also carries this thought) and still being unbelievers not yet gathered, they were under wrath; Ephesians 2:3, then comes Ephesians 2:4ff where the "But God..." comes in and He brings them into the fold.

Sheep are followers either of Christ or the father

so they were all believers either of Christ or the Father

At that time God was handing his sheep over to Jesus

 

[preacher4truth]

Sheep are followers either of Christ or the father

so they were all believers either of Christ or the Father

At that time God was handing his sheep over to Jesus

I believe that but that isn't the end all, and doesn't deal with the texts at hand.

Jesus came to seek and to save His lost sheep. He doesn't save goats. The fact is they are His sheep, though lost, and He finds them and saves them in time.

 

[TomFL]

I believe that but that isn't the end all, and doesn't deal with the texts at hand.

Jesus came to seek and to save His lost sheep. He doesn't save goats. The fact is they are His sheep, though lost, and He finds them and saves them in time.

Who were the lost sheep of Israel

if not followers of God who strayed

 

[preacher4truth]

Who were the lost sheep of Israel

if not followers of God who strayed

All that he gathers are His sheep, they are all gathered into His one fold and He is their one Shepherd. That's what He does, He seeks and saves His sheep that were lost.

 

[TomFL]

All that he gathers are His sheep, they are all gathered into His one fold and He is their one Shepherd. That's what He does, He seeks and saves His sheep that were lost.

Yes his sheep

which are his followers

John 10:14 —KJV
“I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.”

either of God or the son

 

[brightfame52]

Nope, sheep are not the entire world in any way or sense Biblically.

They are the entire world in the context of salvation. His Sheep in their totality from amongst all nations is the whole world He Loved and Christ gave Himself for.

 

[TomFL]

They are the entire world in the context of salvation. His Sheep in their totality from amongst all nations is the whole world He Loved and Christ gave Himself for.

The bible knows nothing of unbelieving unconditionally selected sheep

 

[brightfame52]

The bible knows nothing of unbelieving unconditionally selected sheep

What does the scripture say about God's desire in Job 23 13?

 

[TomFL]

What does the scripture snay about God's desire in Job 23 13?

What is the semantic range of the word Thelo

 

[brightfame52]

What is the semantic range of the word Thelo

What does Job 23 13 say about God's desire.

 

[Theo1689]

brightfame52 said:
What does the scripture snay about God's desire in Job 23 13?

What is the semantic range of the word Thelo

Why should anyone answer your stupid questions when you refuse to answer theirs?
Double standards much?

 

[TomFL]

What does Job 23 13 say about God's desire.

Job 23:13 ¶ But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

Why should anyone answer your stupid questions when you refuse to answer theirs?
Double standards much?

say sthe man who regularly refuses to answer and calls it harassments when asked to do so