God did not become the last Adam

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Paul taught there are 2 Adam's as a scriptural summary.

They were both made by God.

Both were God's sons.

Both were made sinless, but capable of sin.

The 1st Adam failed.

The last Adam succeeded by an external power(Holy Ghost inside).

God did not become neither Adam, as the RCC teaches God became the 2nd Adam(incarnation theory).

This idea debunks the Bible theme and the words of Jesus in most passages("my God", 'God is a Spirit", "only God is good' etc.).

This is why everyone goes astray from the original theme.
 

Bob Carabbio

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Paul taught there are 2 Adam's as a scriptural summary.

They were both made by God.

`One was "Made", and one was Begotten.
Both were God's sons.

Nope only ONE was.
Both were made sinless, but capable of sin.

True statement.
The 1st Adam failed.
Big time.
The last Adam succeeded by an external power(Holy Ghost inside).

Nope, the Holy Ghost wasn't present until John's Baptism. Jesus remained Sinless because of his personal nature. He said NO to sin, while everybody else said YES.
God did not become neither Adam, as the RCC teaches God became the 2nd Adam(incarnation theory).

"The WORD" who was WITH God, and Who WAS God was incarnated as Jesus - the Second "Adam".
This idea debunks the Bible theme and the words of Jesus in most passages("my God", 'God is a Spirit", "only God is good' etc.).

This is why everyone goes astray from the original theme.

Or maybe it's YOU who have gone astray through BAD interpretation of the Word.
 

Truther

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`One was "Made", and one was Begotten.


Nope only ONE was.


True statement.

Big time.


Nope, the Holy Ghost wasn't present until John's Baptism. Jesus remained Sinless because of his personal nature. He said NO to sin, while everybody else said YES.


"The WORD" who was WITH God, and Who WAS God was incarnated as Jesus - the Second "Adam".


Or maybe it's YOU who have gone astray through BAD interpretation of the Word.
You were begotten but not made by your parents?

Jesus was not led of the Spirit per Luke 4:1 until he was 30? He was not really about his Father's business yet?

God turned into another Adam?(became Adam #2)?
 
Paul taught there are 2 Adam's as a scriptural summary.

They were both made by God.

Both were God's sons.

Both were made sinless, but capable of sin.

The 1st Adam failed.

The last Adam succeeded by an external power(Holy Ghost inside).

God did not become neither Adam, as the RCC teaches God became the 2nd Adam(incarnation theory).

This idea debunks the Bible theme and the words of Jesus in most passages("my God", 'God is a Spirit", "only God is good' etc.).

This is why everyone goes astray from the original theme.
God who is the Word was made flesh. What does that mean?

God was in Christ reconciling the world. [email protected] does that mean?

What does this scripture mean and who does it refer to?

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Now, we know that the Father is God but it is a role of God as well. God is a Father to a Son but the Son is a role of God as well because God is the Word that was made flesh thus God is the second Adam because Jesus is God. I did not say the Son was God but that Jesus is God. God's oneness is show in what Jesus said which is the Father and I are one and that he was in the Father and the Father was in the Son. This is God's very nature as the Father and the Son and all that incorporated in the Christ spiritual body. Furthermore Jesus is returning home and all the Sons of God with him. Since The Son of God has always existed in a relationship with the Father so has the Sons of God always existed in a Father and son relationship.

God is One and is one person but God's nature is oneness and here is how I see that oneness. God is complete in himself and all are complete in God. Yes, God is a vast family of Sons and that is God's oneness. Jesus is the last Adam and so are all the Sons of God who are part of Jesus spiritual body and if Jesus is eternal and the Sons of God are eternal then all have existed in God in the now and still do! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

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God who is the Word was made flesh. What does that mean?

God was in Christ reconciling the world. [email protected] does that mean?

What does this scripture mean and who does it refer to?



Now, we know that the Father is God but it is a role of God as well. God is a Father to a Son but the Son is a role of God as well because God is the Word that was made flesh thus God is the second Adam because Jesus is God. I did not say the Son was God but that Jesus is God. God's oneness is show in what Jesus said which is the Father and I are one and that he was in the Father and the Father was in the Son. This is God's very nature as the Father and the Son and all that incorporated in the Christ spiritual body. Furthermore Jesus is returning home and all the Sons of God with him. Since The Son of God has always existed in a relationship with the Father so has the Sons of God always existed in a Father and son relationship.

God is One and is one person but God's nature is oneness and here is how I see that oneness. God is complete in himself and all are complete in God. Yes, God is a vast family of Sons and that is God's oneness. Jesus is the last Adam and so are all the Sons of God who are part of Jesus spiritual body and if Jesus is eternal and the Sons of God are eternal then all have existed in God in the now and still do! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
It means the spoken word of God was made flesh, not God became flesh, or turned into a man, or took on a human nature, or enrobed Himself in flesh, or...

C'mon man!
 
It means the spoken word of God was made flesh, not God became flesh, or turned into a man, or took on a human nature, or enrobed Himself in flesh, or...

C'mon man!
Oh, here we go again!

Here is a scripture just for you!

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 
Really?

God turned into flesh?

Or..did God dwell in the flesh of His human son?
God is the Father and the Son which are both unified roles of God and is God's oneness and there is a vast family of sons in the Son and the Son is in the Father. There you go! Yes, the Word was made flesh means that God took on a human form as the Father and the Son. Got it?!!!!!! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

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God is the Father and the Son which are both unified roles of God and is God's oneness and there is a vast family of sons in the Son and the Son is in the Father. There you go! Yes, the Word was made flesh means that God took on a human form as the Father and the Son. Got it?!!!!!! :)
God bless you,

SeventhDay
So God gave birth to Himself?
 
God is the Father and the Son which are both unified roles of God and is God's oneness and there is a vast family of sons in the Son and the Son is in the Father. There you go! Yes, the Word was made flesh means that God took on a human form as the Father and the Son. Got it?!!!!!! :)

So God gave birth to Himself?
Did not the Father give birth to the Son. Is not thee Son the only begotten of the Father. Please understand that by God by the Spirit conceived a child that had a human birth and thus God became a Father to the Son. However, God was in a spiritual Father and Son relationship in the now and there are also many Sons in relationship as well.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

I hope you understand that Elohim is a plurality and so is "us".

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

Truther

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Did not the Father give birth to the Son. Is not thee Son the only begotten of the Father. Please understand that by God by the Spirit conceived a child that had a human birth and thus God became a Father to the Son. However, God was in a spiritual Father and Son relationship in the now and there are also many Sons in relationship as well.



I hope you understand that Elohim is a plurality and so is "us".

God bless you,

SeventhDay
I have no idea what you said in the first statement, but the "plural" part of Genesis 1 is God speaking to His human son, which Romans 5:14 teaches the 1st Adam was made as Jesus, the last Adam(body, soul and spirit).
 
Jesus is a plurality because he is the head of the church which is a plurality. However, since Jesus existed in the Now as the Father and the Son as a unified one do you think he was the only one? No, the "us" in Genesis 1:26 is Son and sons of God. This is my definition for God's oneness which is God is complete in himself and all are complete in him. How many billions is that Truther? Elohim is a plurality just like the USA is a plurality! Got it? :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

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Jesus is a plurality because he is the head of the church which is a plurality. However, since Jesus existed in the Now as the Father and the Son as a unified one do you think he was the only one? No, the "us" in Genesis 1:26 is Son and sons of God. This is my definition for God's oneness which is God is complete in himself and all are complete in him. How many billions is that Truther? Elohim is a plurality just like the USA is a plurality! Got it? :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
Jesus and God are 2 individuals.

This is not a plurality but 2 singular entities(God and a man).

God is inside the body of the son, not God is the son or the son is the God.

There is no such thing as God becoming human, but God coming into a human is scriptural.

Got it?
 
Jesus and God are 2 individuals.

This is not a plurality but 2 singular entities(God and a man).

God is inside the body of the son, not God is the son or the son is the God.

There is no such thing as God becoming human, but God coming into a human is scriptural.

Got it?
I will tell you what God's oneness is all about: Elohim is a plurality and that is his oneness which is a vast family of spiritual sons in God in Christ. God is complete in himself and all are complete in him is God's oneness and it is not two but billions! Got it? Now, when we discuss created beings like humanity and all other things we are dealing with the law of circularity. May God show what that is! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

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I will tell you what God's oneness is all about: Elohim is a plurality and that is his oneness which is a vast family of spiritual sons in God in Christ. God is complete in himself and all are complete in him is God's oneness and it is not two but billions! Got it? Now, when we discuss created beings like humanity and all other things we are dealing with the law of circularity. May God show what that is! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
Sorry, the 1st century oneness of God taught God inside the man Christ Jesus....unification of the 2 entities by the Col 2:9 effect on Jesus' body after his God resurrecting him from the dead.

The runner up to this was Jesus' infilling of the Holy Ghost on earth.
 
Elohim is a corporate Being in many spiritual roles and all these roles are complete in God and joined to one Spirit. Just as God is eternal so are his roles and self-existent in God and unified in him through a Father and Son relationship. God's oneness is God complete in himself and all complete in God. There you go! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

Truther

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Elohim is a corporate Being in many spiritual roles and all these roles are complete in God and joined to one Spirit. Just as God is eternal so are his roles and self-existent in God and unified in him through a Father and Son relationship. God's oneness is God complete in himself and all complete in God. There you go! :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
Jesus is not a "role of God' , but an individual with a God.

'Thou art my beloved role, this day I have begotten thee'?

Is this what Psalm 2 says?
 
Jesus is not a "role of God' , but an individual with a God.

'Thou art my beloved role, this day I have begotten thee'?

Is this what Psalm 2 says?
Roles of God do not talk that way but of course God has a multitude of roles. Everything that comes out of God (in its proper context) is roles. All the Sons of God which are billions and billions are role of God! The fact that one is joined to one Spirit and is not their own means they are a role of God. Got it? :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
 

Truther

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Roles of God do not talk that way but of course God has a multitude of roles. Everything that comes out of God (in its proper context) is roles. All the Sons of God which are billions and billions are role of God! The fact that one is joined to one Spirit and is not their own means they are a role of God. Got it? :)

God bless you,

SeventhDay
Howbout this one.

"This is my beloved son, role. Hear him"?
 
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