God draws, chooses, appoints, elects, predestines, causes, wills, grants, puts, removes, makes alive, etc........

civic

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The entire salvation process is the Lords from start to finish !

John 15:16
"You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.

John 6:37,44-45
37"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

44“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.

John 6:64-65
But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. 65 And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

John 12:30-32
Jesus answered and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for your sakes. 31 Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

The Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo, which means “to drag” (literally or figuratively). Clearly, this drawing is a one-sided affair. God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn have a passive role in the process. There is no doubt that we respond to His drawing us, but the drawing itself is all on His part.

Helkuo is used in John 21:6 to refer to a heavy net full of fish being dragged to the shore. In John 18:10 we see Peter drawing his sword, and in Acts 16:19 helkuo is used to describe Paul and Silas being dragged into the marketplace before the rulers. Clearly, the net had no part in its being drawn to the shore, Peter’s sword had no part in being drawn, and Paul and Silas did not drag themselves to the marketplace. The same can be said of God’s drawing of some to salvation. Some come willingly, and some are dragged unwillingly, but all eventually come, although we have no part in the drawing. got questions

Deuteronomy 30:6
And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.

Ezekiel 26:25-27
I will
sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you…27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

Ezekiel 36:26
And I will give you
a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

John 1:12-13
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Acts 11:8
When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."

Acts 13:48 “as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.”

Ephesians 2:5
even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,

Colossians 2:13
And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,

Titus 3:5
He saved us
, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

2 Timothy 2:25
Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,

James 1:18
Of his own will
he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

There are many other scriptures to add to these but this should be enough to suffice that Salvation as the Bible declares in many places is of, by and through the Lord alone, not man. God is the One who is active causing all the things in the OP title.

hope this helps !!!
 

Sethproton

Well-known member
The entire salvation process is the Lords from start to finish !

John 15:16
"You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.

John 6:37,44-45
37"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

44“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.

John 6:64-65
But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. 65 And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

John 12:30-32
Jesus answered and said, “This voice has not come for My sake, but for your sakes. 31 Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

The Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo, which means “to drag” (literally or figuratively). Clearly, this drawing is a one-sided affair. God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn have a passive role in the process. There is no doubt that we respond to His drawing us, but the drawing itself is all on His part.

Helkuo is used in John 21:6 to refer to a heavy net full of fish being dragged to the shore. In John 18:10 we see Peter drawing his sword, and in Acts 16:19 helkuo is used to describe Paul and Silas being dragged into the marketplace before the rulers. Clearly, the net had no part in its being drawn to the shore, Peter’s sword had no part in being drawn, and Paul and Silas did not drag themselves to the marketplace. The same can be said of God’s drawing of some to salvation. Some come willingly, and some are dragged unwillingly, but all eventually come, although we have no part in the drawing. got questions

Deuteronomy 30:6
And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.

Ezekiel 26:25-27
I will
sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you…27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

Ezekiel 36:26
And I will give you
a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

John 1:12-13
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Acts 11:8
When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life."

Acts 13:48 “as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.”

Ephesians 2:5
even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,

Colossians 2:13
And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,

Titus 3:5
He saved us
, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

2 Timothy 2:25
Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,

James 1:18
Of his own will
he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

There are many other scriptures to add to these but this should be enough to suffice that Salvation as the Bible declares in many places is of, by and through the Lord alone, not man. God is the One who is active causing all the things in the OP title.

hope this helps !!!
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
 

civic

Well-known member
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Like the OP states Salvation is of by and through the Lord not man- that is your pelagianism shining through loud and clear. If the Lord doesn't draw a person they cannot believe. Only those whom He draws will come. Only those who come have been drawn. Those whom He doesn't draw cannot come to Him or believe in Him.

John 1:12-13
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

And it is God who grants/gives faith in the first place, not man.

Do you have eyes that can see the COLOR BLUE ?

Romans 12:3
3For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.

Ephesians 6:23
Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for Him

2 Peter 1:1
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

1 Timothy 1:14
The grace
of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

(faith is given out by God along with his grace)

Acts 18:27 - When he arrived, he greatly helped those who through grace had believed

(it is through God's grace that people believe)

Acts. 13:48 As the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God. As many as were appointed to eternal life, believed.
 
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Theo1689

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Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Yes, and it is GOD who gives His elect people faith.
That means that the elect cannot help BUT believe.
And the non-elect are not given the faith to believe.

So any way you slice it, salvation is WHOLLY (every bit of it) from the Lord.

Eph. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

Phil. 1:29 For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake,

Rom. 12:3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.

[And remember, other non-Calvinists have corrected your false claim that this "faith" is universal, since it was given to "everyone AMONG YOU" (ie. to Christians).]

2Pet. 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

1Cor. 4:7 For who sees anything different in you? What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?

John 6:29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”
 

Sethproton

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Like the OP states Salvation is of by and through the Lord not man- that is your pelagianism shining through loud and clear. If the Lord doesn't draw a person they cannot believe. Only those whom He draws will come. Only those who come have been drawn. Those whom He doesn't draw cannot come to Him or believe in Him.

John 1:12-13
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

And it is God who grants/gives faith in the first place, not man.

Do you have eyes that can see the COLOR BLUE ?

Romans 12:3
3For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.

Ephesians 6:23
Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1:29
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for Him

2 Peter 1:1
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

1 Timothy 1:14ut
The grace
of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

(faith is given out by God along with his grace)

Acts 18:27 - When he arrived, he greatly helped those who through grace had believed

(it is through God's grace that people believe)

Acts. 13:48 As the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God. As many as were appointed to eternal life, believed.
people should note that i quoted a verse, and nothing but the verse and Civic calls it Pelagianism.
 

civic

Well-known member
people should note that i quoted a verse, and nothing but the verse and Civic calls it Pelagianism.
Because I have heard your IDEAS 100's of times and know what you mean when you quote that passage. Man made, man centered, man generated faith is pelagian.

Oh and try dealing with any passage in the OP. I'm not interested in your DIVERSION TACTICS and RABBIT TRAILS.

Plus believing in a false christ and gospel like you cannot save on from their sins as per 1 Cor 15. Yet another proof of your pelagianism.

next......................
 

PeanutGallery

Well-known member
The entire salvation process is the Lords from start to finish !...
Of course salvation process is of God; the issue is whom does the Lord draw and save.

Psalm 145:18 The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.
Psalm 145:19 He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them.
 

Sethproton

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Yes, and it is GOD who gives His elect people faith.
That means that the elect cannot help BUT believe.
And the non-elect are not given the faith to believe.


Eph. 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is theth, but ; it is the gift of God,
Sethproton: and remember this passage goes on to say, "not of works let any man should boast"
This clarifies what the gift is. Calvinist claim the gift is faith, but the gift is salvation. here is one way we know this.
The Bible never states that anyone thinks faith comes by works. This is not a Biblical issue and does not even have anything reasonable in it.
The bible does say that some think they earn their salvation by their works
Paul is correcting that idea: salvation by works.
Paul is saying salvation is the gift of Good received by faith
 

Theo1689

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people should note that i quoted a verse, and nothing but the verse and Civic calls it Pelagianism.

That's because we know how you understand the verse.
You think you have some autonomous, "Pelagian" ability to "believe" in whatever you want to choose to believe. But that's not how it works.
 

civic

Well-known member
This clarifies what the gift is. Calvinist claim the gift is faith, but the gift is salvation. here is one way we know this.
The Bible never states that anyone thinks faith comes by works. This is not a Biblical issue and does not even have anything reasonable in it.
The bible does say that some think they earn their salvation by their works
Paul is correcting that idea: salvation by works.
Paul is saying salvation is the gift of Good received by faith
another reply with nothing but assumptions with no exegesis.

who would of guessed that would be your response :love:
 

Theo1689

Well-known member
This clarifies what the gift is. Calvinist claim the gift is faith, but the gift is salvation. here is one way we know this.

Wrong again, Seth.
We've had this exchange over a hundred times, yet you refuse to accept correction.

The "this" (referring to the gift) is NEUTER.
"Salvation" is MASCULINE.
The genders do not match.
Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for the gift to be only "salvation", to the exclusion of anything else.

The only possible thing the "gift" can be is the ENTIRETY of "by grace you have been saved through faith", which INCLUDES "faith".

How do we know the gift includes "faith"?
Because "faith" is the gift in Phil. 1:29.
Because "faith" is the gift in Rom. 12:3.
Because "faith" is the gift in 2 Pet. 1:1.
Because "faith" is the gift in 1 Cor. 4:7.

Scripture interprets Scripture.

Paul is saying salvation is the gift of Good received by faith

Wrong.
As usual, you are wrong, because you don't know Greek, but you convince yourself that you actually do.
 

Sethproton

Well-known member
Because I have heard your IDEAS 100's of times and know what you mean when you quote that passage. Man made, man centered, man generated faith is pelagian.

Oh and try dealing with any passage in the OP. I'm not interested in your DIVERSION TACTICS and RABBIT TRAILS.

Plus believing in a false christ and gospel like you cannot save on from their sins as per 1 Cor 15. Yet another proof of your pelagianism.

next......................
You display a common error. You can look right at truth from the Bible and see a lie.
 

Sethproton

Well-known member
Wrong again, Seth.
We've had this exchange over a hundred times, yet you refuse to accept correction.

The "this" (referring to the gift) is NEUTER.
"Salvation" is MASCULINE.
The genders do not match.
Therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for the gift to be only "salvation", to the exclusion of anything else.

The only possible thing the "gift" can be is the ENTIRETY of "by grace you have been saved through faith", which INCLUDES "faith".

How do we know the gift includes "faith"?
Because "faith" is the gift in Phil. 1:29.
Because "faith" is the gift in Rom. 12:3.
Because "faith" is the gift in 2 Pet. 1:1.
Because "faith" is the gift in 1 Cor. 4:7.

Scripture interprets Scripture.



Wrong.
As usual, you are wrong, because you don't know Greek, but you convince yourself that you actually do.
I speak English well, and i assume the translators know Greek better than you, so I can trust the way the translators express the thoughts in English. And I can break down the English quite well.
 

ReverendRV

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I speak English well, and i assume the translators know Greek better than you, so I can trust the way the translators express the thoughts in English. And I can break down the English quite well.
...

Man you're fast; you corrected the Spelling before I posted it. The following is how it appeared...

Copy and Paste I speak English well, and i assume the translator know Greek better than you, so I can trust the way the translators express the thoughts in English. And I can break down the English quite well.
 

civic

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You display a common error. You can look right at truth from the Bible and see a lie.
No the lie comes from you who denies the gospel- the Bodily Resurrection/Ascension of Jesus and deny His eternal humanity. That it what is known as BELIEVING a LIE hook, line and sinker. Its APSOTASY by definition since you once believed like ALL CHRISTIANS in the Gospel and now reject it.
 

Theo1689

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The Greek word translated “draw” is helkuo, which means “to drag” (literally or figuratively). Clearly, this drawing is a one-sided affair. God does the drawing to salvation; we who are drawn have a passive role in the process. There is no doubt that we respond to His drawing us, but the drawing itself is all on His part.

Helkuo is used in John 21:6 to refer to a heavy net full of fish being dragged to the shore. In John 18:10 we see Peter drawing his sword, and in Acts 16:19 helkuo is used to describe Paul and Silas being dragged into the marketplace before the rulers. Clearly, the net had no part in its being drawn to the shore, Peter’s sword had no part in being drawn, and Paul and Silas did not drag themselves to the marketplace. The same can be said of God’s drawing of some to salvation. Some come willingly, and some are dragged unwillingly, but all eventually come, although we have no part in the drawing. got questions

And just for clarification, many non-Calvinists "redefine" the term, "draw" (Greek, "helkuo"), to try to force it to fit their unBiblical doctrines.

"Drawing" is completely efficacious, it does not fail. It is not a mere "wooing", or "coaxing", or something so impotent.

Here is how the term is used in English, and in Scripture:

Here is a list of expressions which use the term, "draw":

"draw a gun"
"with-drawl"
"draw a sword"
"draw blood"
"draw blinds"
"draw interest"
"draw curtains"
"draw a breath"
"draw a cheque"
"the honey drew flies";
“the light drew moths”;
"the enemy drew fire";
"horse-drawn carriage";
"draw the short straw"
"draw on a bank account";
"draw water from a well"
"amount of power drawn";
"draw a card from a deck”
"draw a bow" (archery);
"the college drew students";
"the performance drew cheers";
"draw-er" (you drag/pull it open);
"draw" (winning ticket) for a 50/50 draw;
"the prisoner was drawn and quartered";
“draw on a cigarette" ("take a draw");

I notice that none of these expressions make any sense if we replace the term, "draw" with "woo" or "coax". You don't "woo" a playing card out of a hand. You don't "coax" a sword out of its sheath.



I took it upon myself to study the usage of the Greek term, "ἑλκύω" (translated as "draw" in John 6:44), in the Greek New Testament and in the Septuagint ("LXX", the ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament). This is what I found:

Deut. 21:3 a heifer that...has not pulled <ἑλκύω> in a yoke.
2Sam. 22:17 he drew <ἑλκύω> me out of many waters.
1 Mac 10:82 Then brought <ἑλκύω> Simon forth his host,
3 Mac 5:49 infants drew <ἑλκύω> what seemed their last milk [from the breast].
4 Mac 11:9 the spearbearers bound him, and drew <ἑλκύω> him to the catapelt:
Ps. 10:9 he seizes the poor when he draws <ἑλκύω> him into his net.
Ps. 119:131 I open my mouth and pant <ἑλκύω pneuma>, lit. "draw air"
Eccl. 2:3 how to cheer my body with wine (lit., "draw <ἑλκύω> wine into my body"
Job 20:28 The possessions of his house will be carried away, <ἑλκύω>
Job 39:10 or will he harrow <ἑλκύω> the valleys after you? (lit. "drag your furrows")
Sir. 28:19 who hath not drawn <ἑλκύω> the yoke thereof,
Hab. 1:15 he drags <ἑλκύω> them out with his net;
Isa. 10:15 [shall] the saw magnify itself against him who wields <ἑλκύω> it?
Jer. 14:6 they pant <ἑλκύω> for air (lit. "draw air") like jackals;
Jer. 38:13 Then they drew <ἑλκύω> Jeremiah up with ropes
John 18:10 Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew <ἑλκύω> it
John 21:6 So they cast [the net], and now they were not able to haul <ἑλκύω>it in
John 21:11 So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled <ἑλκύω> the net ashore
Acts 16:19 they seized Paul and Silas and dragged <ἑλκύω> them into the marketplace
Acts 21:30 They seized Paul and dragged <ἑλκύω> him out of the temple
James 2:6 the ones who drag <ἑλκύω> you into court?
 

civic

Well-known member
And just for clarification, many non-Calvinists "redefine" the term, "draw" (Greek, "helkuo"), to try to force it to fit their unBiblical doctrines.

"Drawing" is completely efficacious, it does not fail. It is not a mere "wooing", or "coaxing", or something so impotent.

Here is how the term is used in English, and in Scripture:

Here is a list of expressions which use the term, "draw":

"draw a gun"
"with-drawl"
"draw a sword"
"draw blood"
"draw blinds"
"draw interest"
"draw curtains"
"draw a breath"
"draw a cheque"
"the honey drew flies";
“the light drew moths”;
"the enemy drew fire";
"horse-drawn carriage";
"draw the short straw"
"draw on a bank account";
"draw water from a well"
"amount of power drawn";
"draw a card from a deck”
"draw a bow" (archery);
"the college drew students";
"the performance drew cheers";
"draw-er" (you drag/pull it open);
"draw" (winning ticket) for a 50/50 draw;
"the prisoner was drawn and quartered";
“draw on a cigarette" ("take a draw");

I notice that none of these expressions make any sense if we replace the term, "draw" with "woo" or "coax". You don't "woo" a playing card out of a hand. You don't "coax" a sword out of its sheath.



I took it upon myself to study the usage of the Greek term, "ἑλκύω" (translated as "draw" in John 6:44), in the Greek New Testament and in the Septuagint ("LXX", the ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament). This is what I found:

Deut. 21:3 a heifer that...has not pulled <ἑλκύω> in a yoke.
2Sam. 22:17 he drew <ἑλκύω> me out of many waters.
1 Mac 10:82 Then brought <ἑλκύω> Simon forth his host,
3 Mac 5:49 infants drew <ἑλκύω> what seemed their last milk [from the breast].
4 Mac 11:9 the spearbearers bound him, and drew <ἑλκύω> him to the catapelt:
Ps. 10:9 he seizes the poor when he draws <ἑλκύω> him into his net.
Ps. 119:131 I open my mouth and pant <ἑλκύω pneuma>, lit. "draw air"
Eccl. 2:3 how to cheer my body with wine (lit., "draw <ἑλκύω> wine into my body"
Job 20:28 The possessions of his house will be carried away, <ἑλκύω>
Job 39:10 or will he harrow <ἑλκύω> the valleys after you? (lit. "drag your furrows")
Sir. 28:19 who hath not drawn <ἑλκύω> the yoke thereof,
Hab. 1:15 he drags <ἑλκύω> them out with his net;
Isa. 10:15 [shall] the saw magnify itself against him who wields <ἑλκύω> it?
Jer. 14:6 they pant <ἑλκύω> for air (lit. "draw air") like jackals;
Jer. 38:13 Then they drew <ἑλκύω> Jeremiah up with ropes
John 18:10 Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew <ἑλκύω> it
John 21:6 So they cast [the net], and now they were not able to haul <ἑλκύω>it in
John 21:11 So Simon Peter went aboard and hauled <ἑλκύω> the net ashore
Acts 16:19 they seized Paul and Silas and dragged <ἑλκύω> them into the marketplace
Acts 21:30 They seized Paul and dragged <ἑλκύω> him out of the temple
James 2:6 the ones who drag <ἑλκύω> you into court?
Thanks do you mind if I save this post and credit you when I use it in the future. Good work !
 
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