SavedByTheLord
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Matt 3:20 is just the baptism of God. Nothing about denying yje deity of Christ.
God is the Lord, Jesus is the Lord, therefore Jesus Christ is God. Proof - part 3
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There is no Matt 3:20.
If you were referring to Matt 3:16, the baptism of John was by man but the one of Spirit who came and baptized Jesus by the Spirit He is, is not the same as water.
Johns baptism was of man, Gods baptism is of Spirit. Read it. Matt 3:16.
If you have not received the same a Jesus did from God then you only know mans rituals and dont have a clue what it is to be baptized by Gods Spirit. Which would be the deity of His anointing be in you just as He opens that deity in Jesus no different at all.
If you are different from who Jesus was in the Father then you worship a different deity than the One Jesus received in Matt 3:16.
SavedByTheLord
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Yet nothing about the denying of the deity of Christ.
Christ had to become flesh because only a man could atone for the sins of man, but only God could remain without sin to atone.
Go to a real Sunday school.
Agreed, Gods deity defiantly was manifest in Jesus just as He is manifest in us all who walk in it as Jesus did after Matt 3:16 and not before.
Christ never became flesh, Christ = Gods Spirit in man to be anointed of God. You are not anointed of God as Jesus became in Matt 3:16 are you?
Better yet' let God come to you as He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 and open up who He is and all of His heaven in you as He did in Jesus.
That way you also can graduate from schooling of man.
SavedByTheLord
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Matt hew 3:16 has nothing that denies the deity of Christ.
Now you are getting it!
SavedByTheLord
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You are wrong.
The Bible is quite clear that God created all things. This is clearly shown in Genesis 1 and other parts of the Old Testament (Exo 20:11, Exo 31:17, et al).
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. - Gen 1:1
But the New Testament declares that Jesus Christ created all things. So, the following verses prove that Jesus Christ is God Almighty.
All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. - John 1:3
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. - John 1:10
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: - Col 1:16
FYI again only Jesus's created Body ( the Flesh of John 1:14 ) isn't God! He " was God " the Word in John 1:1 and " was with God " the Father & Holy Spirit! Thus God the WORD of verse 1 " BECAME FLESH " as the God-Man called Jesus Christ in verse 14! Case closed!
Can't you CORRECTLY read what I Posted?!!!! Jesus is God-Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! So yes as man ( the Son ) He could do nothing as Himself but do the will of His Father! As God the Word, He raised His own dead body back to life as He said ( Jesus ) He would do in 3 days after the destruction of His body by crucifixion as per John 2:19-21! Case closed Gary!
Runningman
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Great so Jesus isn't God then. Was Jesus a vessel for God and can others be a vessel for God?
Runningman
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What makes Jesus a "God-Man" in your view?
Curiously, you didn't cite John 2:22 (obviously because it doesn't help you) which proves Jesus didn't resurrect himself from the dead. Clearly he was acted upon by something or someone external to himself.
John 2
22After He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this. Then they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.
That isn't wrong at all, it is truth!
Amen
No it doesnt at all. Here is what Jesus Himself said about that.
John 12:49 KJV: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
Yes all things was made by God, Jesus said, and I quote.
John 12:49 KJV: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
And you do not know him at all. You think Jesus was a god.
Here is what Jesus said about that. Deny him if you will, AND You WILL.
John 12:49 KJV: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
SavedByTheLord
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The gospel of John declares that Jesus Christ is God in its first verse. Referring to Christ, John wrote:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - John 1:1
FYI again, as per John 1:1+14 He ( Jesus ) is God-Man! God the Word became God-Man as Jesus Christ! His Flesh is the created BODY of God the Word! When born again, our bodies have the SPIRIT of GOD dwelling in it as per 1 Cor.6:19, but it ( Our Body ) is NOT GOD's body! Only Jesus Christ body is GOD's body ( God in the flesh ) ! Saved people are Not God in the flesh even though they have GOD's Spirit dwelling in their body! We are NOT God the Word in the Flesh like ONLY Jesus is! Case closed!
You closed the case to soon, read what Jesus said of himself and his God and weep!
John 12:49 KJV: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
SavedByTheLord
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Heard it before.
The gospel of John declares that Jesus Christ is God in its first verse. Referring to Christ, John wrote:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - John 1:1
Runningman
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No that's all wrong. What's something that makes Jesus God? Name something that he has that someone else doesn't have or can't have.
SavedByTheLord
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Great post.
No it doesnt at all. Here is what Jesus said about himself and the God he obeyed, prayed to and said sent him.
John 12:49 KJV: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
And man is the temple of Him. Heck even Jesus learned this lesson in Matt 3:16, Adam learned this lesson in Gen 3:22. You just havent learned the same lesson that only God can bring as a gift that all of these receieved, especially Jesus. Read in Matt 3:16 when he met his God.
It is for those who never has met God as Jesus did in Matt 3:16. If you had received from God the same it wouldn't be such a great post, in fact is antichrist.
If Jesus was a god man then so am I for we have the same Father who is God. You guys worship a different god from the God Jesus obeyed and worshiped and prayed to is all.
Here is what Jesus had to say about that, that you guys call his ways false.
John 12:49 KJV: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”