God is the Lord, Jesus is the Lord, therefore Jesus Christ is God. Proof - part 3

SavedByTheLord

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I need to quote snippets for you so you don't get distracted and use your Bible lawyer skills to twist and distort the scripture to your own destruction. Jesus deinied being God. Clearly he isn't the God he is saying is [objectively] good.




That verse is your enemy as well, but thank you for quoting it because it also proves Jesus isn't God.

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
I already addressed it. Jesus Christ is not only man but God. So as a man He can be tempted. Of course, as God it never works.
 

Runningman

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I already addressed it. Jesus Christ is not only man but God. So as a man He can be tempted. Of course, as God it never works.

You were wrong. Jesus isn't God because he denied it. Read it again.

Contrary to being called good himself, he said someone else (GOD) is the only one who is good. This is called a denial of being God in any language and culture.

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone” – Luke 18:19
“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good.” – Matthew 19:17
 

SavedByTheLord

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You were wrong. Jesus isn't God because he denied it. Read it again.

Contrary to being called good himself, he said someone else (GOD) is the only one who is good. This is called a denial of being God in any language and culture.

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone” – Luke 18:19
“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good.” – Matthew 19:17
I already rebuked you on this
 

SavedByTheLord

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Oh, but you’ve been rebuked. Your rebukes are powerless because you don’t stand on the word. Jesus denied being God. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Give a verse that denies the deity of Chris. Many have tried for about 2000 year. None have been found.
 

Runningman

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Give a verse that denies the deity of Chris. Many have tried for about 2000 year. None have been found.

Jesus denied it himself.

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone” – Luke 18:19

“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good.” – Matthew 19:17
 

SavedByTheLord

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Jesus denied it himself.

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone” – Luke 18:19

“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good.” – Matthew 19:17
So you have not a single verse. I already rebuked you on this.

Do you believe that Jesus Christ was not good?
Did He do something bad?
 

Runningman

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So you have not a single verse. I already rebuked you on this.

Do you believe that Jesus Christ was not good?
Did He do something bad?

Jesus denied being God. Clearly he isn’t the “only one who is good.” He said so himself.

God is greater than Jesus. Therefore he isn’t God.

John 14
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.
 

SavedByTheLord

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Jesus denied being God. Clearly he isn’t the “only one who is good.” He said so himself.

God is greater than Jesus. Therefore he isn’t God.

John 14
28You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I.
You make the same mistake over and over. Where do you see anything there that denies that Christ is God?
 

Runningman

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You make the same mistake over and over. Where do you see anything there that denies that Christ is God?

He said the only one who is good is God. This is in reference to objectively and perfectly good. If being good in any way makes someone God then we have a big problem.

Do you agree that God is perfectly good?
 

SavedByTheLord

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He said the only one who is good is God. This is in reference to objectively and perfectly good. If being good in any way makes someone God then we have a big problem.

Do you agree that God is perfectly good?
Of course God is perfectly good. We agree on that.

But why do you think Christ is not?
 

Runningman

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Of course God is perfectly good. We agree on that.

But why do you think Christ is not?

Does someone who can be tempted sound like they are perfectly good?

Hebrews 4
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.

To the contrary, God cannot even be tempted.

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
 

SavedByTheLord

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Does someone who can be tempted sound like they are perfectly good?

Hebrews 4
15For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who was tempted in every way that we are, yet was without sin.

To the contrary, God cannot even be tempted.

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He tempt anyone.
It was just the attempt. Satan tempted Jesus Christ, but Christ was unmoved.
 

Runningman

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It was just the attempt. Satan tempted Jesus Christ, but Christ was unmoved.

He was tempted in every way.

God cannot be tempted.

Temptation, though not a sin, is more than just some external force. Someone who is tempted has it in their heart. You starting to understand who Jesus is yet? Jesus is a man, the best example of what a human is capable of being, as a child of God.

@Gary Mac seems to understand this perfectly. Really try to pay attention to what he’s saying.
 

Gary Mac

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He was tempted in every way.

God cannot be tempted.

Temptation, though not a sin, is more than just some external force. Someone who is tempted has it in their heart. You starting to understand who Jesus is yet? Jesus is a man, the best example of what a human is capable of being, as a child of God.

@Gary Mac seems to understand this perfectly. Really try to pay attention to what he’s saying.
It is just ironic that these can read what it says then flat out deny it and say the contrary.
 

SavedByTheLord

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It is just ironic that these can read what it says then flat out deny it and say the contrary.
In the following verse, Thomas calls Jesus Christ, “God”. Christ did not correct him.

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. - John 20:28
 

Theo1689

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Not according to scripture.

Yes, according to Scripture.
We keep quoting Scripture to you, and you keep RUNNING AWAY from it, or claiming it's not translated correctly", or "Don't believe Doubting Thomas even though it's Scripture".
Here it is again:

John 1:1 ... and the Word was God. [...] 14 And the Word became flesh [...]
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Acts 20:28 [...] to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.
Rom. 9:5 [...] is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Phil. 2:5 [...] Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he was in the form of God, [...]
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Titus 2:13
[...] the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
Heb. 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, [...]
2Pet. 1:1 [...] by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

In the prayer of John and Peter they clearly identified God as the Sovereign Lord and Crestor and identified Jesus as a servant through whom God worked through.

You keep running away from the above passages, and running to other passages which DO NOT deny Christ being God, but you try to make them that way with your worthless rationalizations and mental gymnastics.

27In fact, this is the very city where Herod and Pontius Pilate conspired with the Gentiles and the people of Israel against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed.

Yes, Jesus Christ, the second person of the Triune God, came to serve:
Once again you demonstrate your ignorance of Scripture:

Matt. 20:28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”

Yes keep quoting that because you’re playing a dangerous game with your soul. You clearly don’t believe Jesus is who he said he is. He never said he is God, therefore you don’t believe he is who he said he is. You’ve been deceived and your eyes and ears are shut very tightly.

We accept Scripture.
You reject Scripture and claim it is "not translated correctly".
So you are the one who is deceived, since you reject God's word.

Here’s a question for you… did Jesus Christ come in the flesh or did God come in the flesh?

Many people don't correctly understand Scripture, and they equate "God" with "the Father". So if you're asking if God the Father came in the flesh, of course not.
But Jesus is God. Or "deity" if you prefer.

Since you refuse to accept Scripture that teaches the deity of Christ, I'll quote Melito, Bishop of Sardis, from the second century:

He that hung up the earth in space was Himself hanged up; He that fixed the heavens was fixed with nails; He that bore up the earth was borne up on a tree; the Lord of all was subjected to ignominy in a naked body—God put to death! the King of Israel slain with Israel’s right hand! Alas for the new wickedness of the new murder! The Lord was exposed with naked body: He was not deemed worthy even of covering; and, in order that He might not be seen, the luminaries turned away, and the day became darkened because they slew God, who hung naked on the tree.” (Melito of Sardis, Part V)
 

Theo1689

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You were wrong. Jesus isn't God because he denied it. Read it again.

Contrary to being called good himself, he said someone else (GOD) is the only one who is good. This is called a denial of being God in any language and culture.

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone” – Luke 18:19
“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good.” – Matthew 19:17

Jesus is not "denying" being God.
He is AFFIRMING being God.
He is simply trying to get the man to follow the logic:

1) Jesus Christ is good.
2) Only God is good.
3) Therefore, Jesus must be God.

To deny this is to deny that Christ is good.
Are you denying that Christ is good?
 
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