You certainly don't realize that left to their own social evolution that the Iroquois nation would have created a hegemony as far as their battle-axes could reach, and that reach included genocide, slavery, rape, and torture.
Lol, so you are saying the almighty socially evolved moral Europeans saved the Amerindians from their socially immoral selves? Your History proves different
HERE
So instead of you looking around asking "where are all the Indians?" you'd be asking "What happened to the Algonquin, the Cherokee, the Fox, and the Sioux?"
The Europeans killed or corraled them on a reservation, that is what happened to the Indians. That is European evolved morality. Have you not heard about wounded knee?
Rulership takes on many responsibilities of expressing and attempting to satisfy the human condition.
Rulers have subjects much like slaves have masters. Rulers satisfy themselves at the expense of others.
Creating systems that express the landscape of human morality is one of them.
Show me such a moral system without the concept of a supreme being.
Such moral codes show up in cultures that don't even know of your Moses or your Jesus.
So to support your position show which culture was atheists.
I don't need to follow them to be moral. In fact it helps me be moral that I don't.
that is your personal position, but historically all the cultures believe in a creator or Gods from who comes their moral standards.
God did..... I think you forget your commandments.
you are conflating...if you are discussing morality in the social structure, which is knowing the difference between right and wrong. Belief and worship could be either right or wrong.
The first 3 commandments in your Decalogue are not ethical dictates at all but are injunctions of worship.
Correct therefore not rules of morality
#'s 4, 9 and 10 are merely thought crimes.
Your point being?
It seems only 4 rules are against non-ethical actions, actions that no one needed Moses to tell them were not good societal practice as is evidenced by moral codes that arose in societies that knew nothing of Yahweh, Moses, or Jesus.
I don't see how that proves anything...there are societies that depend on aeroplanes for their survival but never heard of the Wright brothers.
Are you claiming that the folks that came over and instigated the American land grab from the American Indian were not reformed Christians?
I am not claiming anything...history shows who they are, however with regards to morality you are advocating...European morality is superior to Amerindian morality
Not only are you blind to American history but you are also blind to your own.
Actually, I am not a historian. So you can correct me if I am wrong. Just bring your historical data. Is it correct to say that European diseases killed a very high percentage of Amerindians?
I didn't. The Bible's acceptance of slavery stands on it's own damnable right without reference to how American Christians used scripture to justify their treatment of blacks as well.
Slavery was accepted as a norm in all cultures. If you are claiming morality evolved the slavery also evolved.(from $0 maximum wage to $7.50 minimum wahe) Europeans misused the slavery that was the norm and made it a horrific experience for fellow humans. That would be a part of the moral evolution you speak about. Just to make it clear what you call Christianity and who you call Christians were not followers of the scripture. The European monarchy used the cover of Christianity to rape and pillage the newfound lands. So the term American Christians do not hold. Those were Europeans hiding under the cover of Christianity.
No need to... see above...
They are not the same thing...Two things called by the same name are not always the same things.
Time is a real measurement, not a concept.
Lol, can you send me some time? If time were real you would be able to go back in time. A clock is an instrument you use to measure time. Time itself is not a measurement.
Time is a measurable factor in all physics as well as social and physical evolution.
Time is the concept, one does not measure the concept. The concept measures a known period. 24 hours is the time allocated to one day and night. Each hour is further divided into minutes and seconds. Hours minutes and seconds are not things that you can see or touch.
Christianity is not my argument.
No one said it was
You are making less and less sense as we go.
You feel that way because your brain is not processing.
It betrays a desperation in you to just make comments without being germane.
You feel that way because you lack understanding
