Grace definition

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Where is grace irresistible below ?


Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 5485: χάρις

χάρις, χάριτος, accusative χάριν, and twice in L T Tr WH the rarer form χάριτα(Acts 24:27; Jude 1:4) which is also poetic (cf. Alexander Buttmann (1873) Ausf. Spr. i. § 44 Anm. 1; (WHs Appendix, 157{b}; Buttmann, 13 (12))), accusative plural χάριτας (Acts 24:27 R G), ἡ(χαίρω), from Homer down, Hebrew חֵן, grace; i. e.
1. properly, that which affords joy, pleasure, delight, sweetness, charm, loveliness: grace of speech (Ecclesiastes 10:12; Sir. 21:16 Sir. 37:21; Homer, Odyssey 8, 175; τῶν λόγων, Demosthenes, 51, 9; 1419, 16; χάριτεςμωρῶν, verbal pleasantries which the foolish affect in order to ingratiate themselves, Sir. 20:13), λόγοι χάριτος(genitive of quality), Luke 4:22; χάρινδιδόναι τοῖς ἀκούουσιν, Ephesians 4:29; ἐν χάριτι, with grace (the substantive, ἅλας being added; see Lightfoot), Colossians 4:6.
 
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2. good-will, loving-kindness, favor: in a broad sense, χάρις παρά τίνι, Luke 2:52; ἔχειν χάριν πρός τινα, to have favor with one, Acts 2:47; χάρις ἐναντίον τινας, Acts 7:10; (χάριν κατά τίνος αἴτεσθαιὅπως (which see II. 2), Acts 25:3 (but others refer this to 3 b. below)); χάρις (of God) ἐστιν ἐπί τινα, attends and assists one, Luke 2:40; Acts 4:33; χάριν (χάριτα) χάριτας κατατίθεσθαι τίνι (see κατατίθημι), Acts 24:27; Acts 25:9; favor(i. e. act of favoring (cf. Winer's Grammar, § 66 at the end)), 2 Corinthians 8:4. χάρις is used of the kindness of a master toward his inferiors or servants, and so especially of God toward men: εὑρίσκειν χάριν παρά τῷ Θεῷ, Luke 1:30; ἐνώπιον τοῦ Θεοῦ, Acts 7:46; τοῦτοχάρις ἐστιν, this wins for us (God's) favor (R. V. is acceptable), 1 Peter 2:19; with παρά Θεῷ added, 1 Peter 2:20; παραδεδομένοι τῇ χάριτι τοῦ Θεοῦ, to be committed or commended to the protecting and helping favor of God, Acts 14:26; Acts 15:40. The apostles and N. T. writers at the beginning and end of their Epistles crave for their readers the favor (`grace') of God or of Christ, to which all blessings, especially spiritual, are due: Romans 1:7; Romans 16:20, 24 (R G); 1 Corinthians 1:3; 1 Corinthians 16:23; 2 Corinthians 1:2; 2 Corinthians 13:13 (14); Galatians 1:3; Galatians 6:18; Ephesians 1:2; Ephesians 6:24; Philippians 1:2; Philippians 4:23; Colossians 1:2; Colossians 4:18; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:28; 2 Thessalonians 1:2; 2 Thessalonians 3:18; 1 Timothy 1:2; 1 Timothy 6:21 (22); 2 Timothy 1:2; 2 Timothy 4:22: Titus 1:4; Titus 3:15; Philemon 1:3, 25; Hebrews 13:25; 1 Peter 1:2; 2 Peter 1:2; 2 Peter 3:18 (cf. 3 a.); 2 John 1:3; Revelation 1:4; Revelation 22:21; cf. Otto, Ueber d. apostol. Segensgruss χάρις ὑμῖν etc., in the Jahrbb. f. deutsche Theol. for 1867, p. 678ff. Moreover, the word χάρις contains the idea of kindness which bestows upon one what he has not deserved: Romans 11:6; hence, κατά χάριν and κατά ὀφείλημα are contrasted in Romans 4:4, 16; χάριτι and ἐξ ἔργων in Romans 11:6; κατ' ἀκλογην χάριτος, Romans 11:5;
 
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but the N. T. writers use χάρις pre-eminently of that kindness by which God bestow: favors even upon the ill-deserving, and grants to sinners the pardon of their offences, and bids them accept of eternal salvation through Christ: Romans 3:24; Romans 5:17, 20f; (); 1 Corinthians 15:10; Galatians 1:15; Galatians 2:21; Ephesians 1:6,(); f; Philippians 1:7; Colossians 1:6; 2 Thessalonians 2:16; 1 Timothy 1:14; 2 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 2:9 (here Treg.marginal reading χωρίς); Hebrews 10:29; Hebrews 12:15; Hebrews 13:9; 1 Peter 1:10; Jude 1:4; εὑρίσκειν χάριν, Hebrews 4:16; ἡ χάρις τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡ σωτήριος, Titus 2:11; ὁ λόγος τῆς χάριτος, the message of his grace, Acts 14:3; Acts 20:32; τόεὐαγγέλιον τῆς χάριτος τοῦ Θεοῦ, Acts 20:24; it is styled 'the grace of Christ,' in that through pity for sinful men Christ left his state of blessedness with God in heaven, and voluntarily underwent the hardships and miseries of human life, and by his sufferings and death procured salvation for mankind: (Acts 15:11); 2 Corinthians 8:9; Romans 5:15; Galatians 1:6; (Titus 3:7); John 1:14, 17. χάρις is used of "the merciful kindness by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues": 2 Corinthians 4:15; 2 Corinthians 6:1; 2 Thessalonians 1:12; οἱπεπιστευκότες διά τῆς χάριτος, Acts 18:27; ὑπό χάριν εἶναι,' to be subject to the power of grace, opposed to ὑπόνόμον εἶναι, Romans 6:14f; τῆς χάριτοςἐξεπέσατε, Galatians 5:4; προσμένειν τῇχαρη, Acts 13:43 (G L T Tr WH); ἐπιμένειν, ibid. Rec.; ἐν τῇ χάριτι (R GWH text omit the article), prompted by grace, Colossians 3:16; the grace of God promoting the progress and blessings of the Christian religion, Acts 11:23; (prompting its possessors to benefactions, 2 Corinthians 9:14); sustaining and aiding the efforts of the men who labor for the cause of Christ, 1 Corinthians 15:10; 2 Corinthians 1:12; the favor of Christ, assisting and strengthening his followers and ministers to bear their troubles, 2 Corinthians 12:9.
 
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Continued from Thayers


3. what is due to grace;

a. the spiritual condition of one governed by the power of divine grace,what the theologians call the 'status gratiae': ἑστηκεναι ἐν τῇ χάριτι, Romans 5:2; εἰς τήν χάριν, 1 Peter 5:12; αὐξάνεινἐν χάριτι, 2 Peter 3:18; ἐνδυναμουσθαι ἐντῇ χάριτι τῇ ἐν Χριστῷ, 2 Timothy 2:1.

b. a token or proof of grace, 2 Corinthians 1:15 (A. V. benefit (WH text Tr marginal reading χαράν, which see under b.)); a gift of grace; benefaction, bounty: used of alms, 1 Corinthians 16:3; 2 Corinthians 8:6f, 19 (Sir. 3:29 (31); ; 4 Macc. 5:8; Xenophon, Ages. 4, 3f; Hier. 8, 4); πᾶσα χάρις, all earthly blessings, wealth, etc., which are due to divine goodness, 2 Corinthians 9:8; ὁ Θεόςπάσης χάριτος, the author and giver of benefits of every kind, 1 Peter 5:10. the aid or succor of divine grace: διδόναιχάριν ταπεινοῖς, 1 Peter 5:5; James 4:6; the salvation offered to Christians is called χάρις, a gift of divine grace, 1 Peter 1:10, 13; of the various blessings of Christ experienced by souls: λαβεῖν χάρινἀντί χάριτος (see ἀντί, 2 e., p. 49{b} bottom), John 1:16; χαρι ζωῆς, the gift of grace seen in the reception of life (cf. ζωή, 2 b.), 1 Peter 3:7; capacity and ability due to the grace of God(German Gnadenausrüstung), Ephesians 4:7; πλήρης χάριτος. Acts 6:8 G L T TrWH; πικιλη χάρις, the aggregate of the extremely diverse powers and gifts granted to Christians, 1 Peter 4:10; used of the power to undertake and administer the apostolic office: λαβεῖν χάριν καίἀποστολήν, i. e. χάριν τῆς ἀποστολῆς, Romans 1:5; τῆς χάριτος τῆς δοθείσης μοι(i. e., Paul), Romans 12:3, 6; Romans 15:15; 1 Corinthians 3:10; Galatians 2:9; Ephesians 3:2, 7; δοθείσῃ ὑμῖν, of the gifts of knowledge and utterance conferred upon Christians, 1 Corinthians 1:4; ἐδόθη μοι ἡ χάρις αὕτη, followed by an infinitive, Ephesians 3:8; of the desire to give alms roused by the grace of God, 2 Corinthians 8:1.

4. thanks (for benefits, services, favors); properly: χάριτι, with thanksgiving, 1 Corinthians 10:30; χάριν ἔχειν τίνι(Latingratiam habere alicui), to be thankful to one, Luke 17:9; 1 Timothy 1:12; 2 Timothy 1:3; Hebrews 12:28 (2 Macc. 3:33, and countless times in secular authors; cf. Passow, under the word, p. 2416{a} under the end; (Liddell and Scott, under the word, II. 2); Ast, Lex. Plato, ii, p. 539f; Bleek, Brief a. d. Hebrews 2:2, p. 975); followed by ἐπί with a dative of the thing, Philemon 1:7 Teditions 2 and 7, Rec.st bez (cf. p. 233a middle); χάρις τῷ Θεῷ namely, ἔστω, Romans 7:25 L T Tr WH text; followed by ὅτι, Romans 6:17 (χάρις τοῖς θεοῖς, ὅτιetc. Xenophon, Cyril 7, 5, 72; 8, 7, 3; an. 3, 3, 14; oec. 8, 16); with a participle added to the dative (by apposition), 1 Corinthians 15:57; 2 Corinthians 2:14; 2 Corinthians 8:16; followed by ἐπί; with a dative of the thing (cf. ἐπί, B. 2 a. δ.), 2 Corinthians 9:15. equivalent to recompense, reward, Luke 6:32-34 (for which Matthew 5:46 usesμισθός).
 
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You see even the lexicons oppose the “ I “ in tulip .

Yours Truly , Team Truth !

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Sketo

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Calvinists believe in Irresistible Grace which is a specific Grace God works in those purposed for salvation from before the world began. We believe that God appointed a time, within the timeline of creation, where the Holy Spirit would regenerate those purposed individuals such that they no longer perceive Christ crucified as foolishness but perceive him as the irresistible wisdom and power of God for salvation. Because of God’s gracious gift of change in perception Christ has become to us the Power that motivates us to endure to the end so as to be saved and inherit eternal life. Those purposed for salvation are acting out what God is working in them. This is how God saves his purposed people from beginning to end.

Proverbs 16:4
The LORD has made everything for its purpose,
even the wicked for the day of trouble.

Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.

1 Cor 1:30
And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,

“but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called,… Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.” (1Co 1:23-24)

“For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” (1Co 1:18)

“work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.” (Php 2:12-13)



 

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Where is grace irresistible below ?

Lexicons don't determine this, context of Scripture determines this.
Calvinists don't (necessarily) believe all grace is irresistible, or that irresistibility is something "inherent" in grace. We simply believe that there is a grace where efficaciously draws the elect, and this comes from Scripture.

Where? I'll get to it.
I proved total depravity yesterday.
I'm working on a post proving unconditional election right now.
We'll get to irresistible grace in time.

Writing productive and substantive posts takes longer than one-liners about "popcorn" or insulting Calvinists, or a 5-second quoting of a lexicon or two.
So be patient.
 
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Except it’s an unbiblical concept not found in scripture or the Greek lexicons. It’s made up by Calvinists .

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Stephen said you stiff necked people always resisting the Holy Spirit.

God is resistible as we read in both Testaments below.

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,


Since all men are not saved and Gods grace goes out to all men, Gods grace can be resisted.



Acts 7:51
“You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit!


God the Holy Spirit can be resisted.



Hebrews 10:29
How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?

Here we see the Spirit of grace resisted, insulted, rejected and trampled under.


Hebrews 6:4-8
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.


Here we have those receiving Gods grace sharing in the Holy Spirit of grace reject it. They have fallen away permanently from His grace and can no longer repent.


Psalm 78:17;40
But they continued to sin against Him, rebelling in the desert against the Most High. How often they disobeyed Him in the wilderness and grieved Him in the desert!


Here we see them in the wilderness rejecting Gods grace upon them and grieving God in the process.

conclusion: just 1 passage showing God can be resisted is enough to prove it is true. But as we see there are plenty of passages which prove man can resist God and His grace.

Yours Truly , Team Truth !

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Theo1689

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Except it’s an unbiblical concept not found in scripture or the Greek lexicons. It’s made up by Calvinists .

hope this helps !!!

Since there isn't a lexical entry for "Trinity" in any lexicon, I guess you reject the Trinity, right?

You remind me of that scene from "A Few Good Men", where Bacon asks the witness where he can find "Code Red" in the Marine Corps (?) manual. Cruise came back and asked him where he could find where the Chow Hall was in the manual.

Doctrines aren't found in lexicons.
 
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The fallacy of false dichotomy continues. Grace is a biblical word in the lexicon .

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Theo1689

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Stephen said you stiff necked people always resisting the Holy Spirit.

That's not a reference to "irresistible grace".
It's not even a reference to "grace".

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

You assume that "all men" means "all individuals".

You also ignore (or are perhaps ignorant) of the alternative translation of the verse:

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

This says "the grace ... hath appeared to all men",
not "salvation hath appeared to all men".

And even further, this simply asserts that salvation that "appeared" to all men, not that it was "given" to all men, or even "offered" to all men.

Since all men are not saved and Gods grace goes out to all men, Gods grace can be resisted.

Wishful thinking.

Hebrews 6:4-8
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Already refuted, and not addressed by you.

Heb. 6:9 Though we speak in this way, yet in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things—things that belong to salvation.
 
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Irresistible is a man made concept , grace has been resisted by man since the garden . Next
 

Theo1689

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Irresistible is a man made concept , grace has been resisted by man since the garden . Next

All you are doing at this point is repeating yourself.
Why do you and Tom feel it necessary to repeat yourself over and over?
Is brainwashing the only way you can hope to convince people of your false teachings?
 
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Of course I’m repeating the truth . That’s biblical . Jesus and the Apostle’s repeated themselves 100’s of times in scripture.

Your doctrine in man made not in scripture since Gods grace can be resisted by man .

If not then by default your doctrine is forced upon man against his will . An unloving act by an unloving god. Scripture and the lexicons expose the false doctrine of IR in tulip . The same goes with your heresy of regeneration prior to hearing the gospel and faith / repentance which actually precedes the new life/birth .

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Years ago the former Poster JStone said that Prevenient Grace just turns Arminians into Pelagians. It makes the Totally Depraved into Neutral people who can resist; or not. I thought this was a genius statement. Y'all may not; and I'm not interested in arguing what Pelagius really said, etc. Basically we all believe something 'like' this, since we all agree we need God's Help. Those who need help; are Helpless without it, right? It reminds me of when Atheists say Christianity is a 'Crutch'; what's wrong with that?? Even if a Christian's POV of Prevenient Grace is slight, they still need Grace's tiny Crutch...

If we need a Crutch after Faith, don't we REALLY need one before Faith?
 
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Theo1689

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Years ago the former Poster JStone said that Prevenient Grace just turns Arminians into Pelagians. It makes the Totally Depraved into Neutral people who can resist; or not. I thought this was a genius statement.

As it turns out, that's not what Prevenient grace teaches. It teaches that prevenient grace is salvific grace, but that it can be resisted. But I'm sure there are many who have this misunderstanding, as I was one of them.

Y'all may not; and I'm not interested in arguing what Pelagius really said, etc. Basically we all believe 'something' like this, since we all agree we need God's Help.

I realize that there is not a big difference between the two, and that you have a purpose to try to show people that our positions are not as different as some want to think, and I appreciate that.

But what I don't understand is why Arminians feel the need to add their own "control", their own "choice", their own "decision" into the works, especially when the "choice" is so extreme as to be a no-brainer. And since we are God's children, why are we different than human children? Human children don't have the "choice" to go to school, the "choice" to go to Grandma's, the "choice" to go on vacation, the "choice" to go to the store if Mom has to, etc. etc.

And there is no explicit "free will choice" anywhere in Scripture.
It is always "implied".
They read "believe" as "CHOOSE to believe".
They read "come" as "CHOOSE to come".
They read "repent" as "CHOOSE to repent".
 

Sketo

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Irresistible is a man made concept , grace has been resisted by man since the garden . Next

Can you now resist the preaching of the cross, and reject it as foolishness, or has Christ Crucified became to you the irresistible power and wisdom of God such that you would not even consider another means unto salvation?

 
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