Grim milestone: 1 in 500 Americans died from Covid-19

LifeIn

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Fake News. The recovery rate is around 99%. The recovery rate for AIDS was about 2% during the 80s and early 90s. That means catching it was a death sentence. Fear-mongering only benefits corrupt Big Pharma and the medical cartel. Organized crime. At least Big Tobacco did not force anyone to smoke. Unlike the C-19 vax cultists who wish to force their shots on everyone (ignoring all the damage) so they can profit and gain power and shutting down debate which is essential to our form of governance. Under our corrupt system, he who has the gold makes the rules.
Here's an example where the poster uses twisted facts to lead the reader to an unjustified conclusion. Yes, the recovery rate for AIDS was 2% in the 80s, but the number of people catching AIDS in the 80s was tiny compared to the number of people catching covid today. Even with a recovery rate of 99%, the number of infected individuals means many many more deaths. When evaluating the risk of a disease, one has to take into account both the probability of catching it and the probability that if you catch it you will die. The product of these two probability is the total risk. Since AIDS was much less transmissible (it did not spread through the air or through casual social contact) the disease spread very slowly and the number catching it was was minuscule by comparison. But that's one of the ways misinformation spreads - by presenting some facts and leaving off other extremely relevant facts.
 

Howie

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Here's an example where the poster uses twisted facts to lead the reader to an unjustified conclusion. Yes, the recovery rate for AIDS was 2% in the 80s, but the number of people catching AIDS in the 80s was tiny compared to the number of people catching covid today. Even with a recovery rate of 99%, the number of infected individuals means many many more deaths. When evaluating the risk of a disease, one has to take into account both the probability of catching it and the probability that if you catch it you will die. The product of these two probability is the total risk. Since AIDS was much less transmissible (it did not spread through the air or through casual social contact) the disease spread very slowly and the number catching it was was minuscule by comparison. But that's one of the ways misinformation spreads - by presenting some facts and leaving off other extremely relevant facts.
What's the risk of death from being born?
 

LifeIn

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The vaccine is the pathogen.
Here's another way to spread misinformation. Just tell a boldface lie that carries an emotional hook. Be on the lookout for loaded words that are totally inappropriate, and in fact a lie.


If you look at the rate between last winter and now you'll see more cases. Link to USA's cases using worldometer.
Back then the hospitals were not overwhelmed by covid patients....why would you claim they are now?
Because they are.
 

eternomade

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I saw that in the newspaper today. Sad. The number of deaths in this country from covid is approaching the estimated deaths from the virulent flu of 1918. Sad.
Hello. Is this % based or total number? Id imagine the population has grown since but I am trying to follow the logic.
 

Harry Leggs

Super Member
No one is forcing the vaccine on EVERYONE. That would be 100% of the population, would it not?
Illegals are exempt. Either way, they are attempting to force the jab on middle-class workers. That means my big tobacco analogy still stands. Big tobacco never attempted to force cigs on people via the government including the POTUS with fatwas from on high. Also bullying and cancel culture in place of debate. Activating the dept of Labor. All that is strong arm and illegal. POTUS does not have the authority to implement forced jabs to financially enrich both himself and his partners in medicine. It is a money and a power grab at our expense and safety. Biden needs to be removed from office for abuse of power. The jab is not risk-free and they are shutting down debate which is essential to how we operate. Also, they changed the cause of death procedure in April of 2020 to elevate the numbers. If it is one in 500 then it should be reflected in the recovery rates. 99% recovery does not jive with one in 500 deaths. It is fake news. Your problem is data omissions. You are not looking at all the data when you say appears to be true. You probably wish it to be true because you have taken sides in favor of the status quo on this.
 
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Harry Leggs

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Here's an example where the poster uses twisted facts to lead the reader to an unjustified conclusion.
Don't blame me because you put out fake news.
Yes, the recovery rate for AIDS was 2% in the 80s, but the number of people catching AIDS in the 80s was tiny compared to the number of people catching covid today.
Who cares. Aids was spread to the general population via contaminated blood transfusions. They attempted to cover all that up and the blood industry was indemnified against damages by the government. They poisoned innocent people including children with zero consequences.
Even with a recovery rate of 99%, the number of infected individuals means many many more deaths.
The deaths are amoung the elderly with pre-existing conditions. It is not lethal. There is no need for a vaxx.
When evaluating the risk of a disease, one has to take into account both the probability of catching it
Like a cold?
and the probability that if you catch it you will die.
You will not die from COVID alone.
The product of these two probability is the total risk. Since AIDS was much less transmissible (it did not spread through the air or through casual social contact) the disease spread very slowly and the number catching it was was minuscule by comparison. But that's one of the ways misinformation spreads - by presenting some facts and leaving off other extremely relevant facts.
You have not proved misinformation. We all know alleged covid is easy to catch relative to AIDS. So? You still have not proved one in 500 died from COVID and it is you who is cherry picking, not me. You left out how they changed th death stats procedure on April of 2020 to elevate the numbers. Move the goalposts replacing a perfectly fine protocol for COVID. The reported numbers are fake and most everybody knows it except vaxx cultist like yourself who actually believe this panic-inducing nonsense. If it is one in five hundred than that means all the lock downs, mask wearings .....all we did last year including shutting down all the schools failed. It is not one in 500. It is a money and power grab by criminal businessmen and politicians. Organized crime.
 
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glenlogie

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No one is forcing the vaccine on EVERYONE. That would be 100% of the population, would it not?

But it appears to be true. I used the much-maligned snopes on here to check this out, only the second time I have done so since coming on here back in late April--the same one YOU used on here once, to prove that something posted was fake news:




Here is another link:


I suspect other fact check web sites will also have something about this in the near future.

So, it appears to be true.
True, the political elite are exempt.
 

LifeIn

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Who cares.
Anyone reading your misinformation should care, as I explained.


The deaths are amoung the elderly with pre-existing conditions. It is not lethal. There is no need for a vaxx.
1. The elderly are people too.
2. With the delta variant, the deaths are shifting to those that are younger.
3. The vaccine is the safest and most effective way to protect yourself and those you love, as well as the society in general, from covid.


You will not die from COVID alone.
Who cares?

You have not proved misinformation. We all know alleged covid is easy to catch relative to AIDS. So?
You left that out of your analysis, which undercuts your implication that covid is not much of a risk compared to AIDS. It is a much bigger risk, as comparing the total number of people dead from both diseases in a year will show.


You still have not proved one in 500 died from COVID
It is reported by people we should trust. That's the only way to "prove" something like that.

People, do your part. Get vaccinated!
 

glenlogie

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Anyone reading your misinformation should care, as I explained.



1. The elderly are people too.
2. With the delta variant, the deaths are shifting to those that are younger.
3. The vaccine is the safest and most effective way to protect yourself and those you love, as well as the society in general, from covid.



Who cares?


You left that out of your analysis, which undercuts your implication that covid is not much of a risk compared to AIDS. It is a much bigger risk, as comparing the total number of people dead from both diseases in a year will show.



It is reported by people we should trust. That's the only way to "prove" something like that.

People, do your part. Get vaccinated!
Why should we trust the ruling elites?
 

Backup

Well-known member
Absolutely, and Afghanistan and Benghazi. (Not really. You're going to apples snd oranges once again. The Holocaust wasn't caused by a virus, right?)
no

your objection the my criticism of your dumb “point” is absurd
 

Howie

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... The vaccine is the safest and most effective way to protect yourself and those you love, as well as the society in general ...
Great!! Which means forcing the vaccine on those who don't want it IS NOT NECESSARY!! 👍
 
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