H mom claim The only way to remove a fetus at 17 weeks is called "abortion."

Temujin

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Waffle. Can you see the discrimination against Downs syndrome or are you still blind to the reality? If the latter your judgement will be impaired on the Abortion Act 1967
There's no discrimination against Downs syndrome. This isn't just a matter of opinion. This is a fact, written in law and tested in court. You are factually wrong. You don't get to rewrite reality by labelling the bits you don't like "waffle".
 

Temujin

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Yes there is because disabled unborn such as with Downs can get aborted up until birth, whereas other unborn are protected after 24 weeks.
Then you are falling into the same error as the person who brought the action She, and you lost. Your statement above is factually incorrect.
 

Temujin

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Baseless denial. Your statement was incorrect as shown.
Another factually incorrect statement. Do you know what "baseless" means? When I base my denial on facts which are even included in the article you posted, then it isn't baseless. You are making yourself look silly.

Stating that something is incorrect is not showing it to be so. When it manifestly is correct, then claiming that you have shown otherwise merely shows that you are silly.
 

BMS

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Another factually incorrect statement.
Nope. Since the unborn with Downs can be aborted up to birth whereas other unborn can only be aborted up to 24 weeks, its not equal. You claimed it was.
Maybe since the unborn has no rights, one could say its discrimination within abortion.
 

Temujin

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Nope. Since the unborn with Downs can be aborted up to birth whereas other unborn can only be aborted up to 24 weeks, its not equal. You claimed it was.
Maybe since the unborn has no rights, one could say its discrimination within abortion.
Reality, as always, belies what you say. You can say what you want, but judgement has been made against you. Denying that this is the case is just another example of blinkered thinking.
 

BMS

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Reality, as always, belies what you say.
And the observable evidence shows you have no grasp of reality. There is discrimination against the unborn with Downs syndrome because they can be aborted up until 24 weeks whereas other unborn humans without Downs syndrome cant. And you see that as equal and the same.
 

Temujin

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And the observable evidence shows you have no grasp of reality. There is discrimination against the unborn with Downs syndrome because they can be aborted up until 24 weeks whereas other unborn humans without Downs syndrome cant. And you see that as equal and the same.
Tell that to the judges whose job it is to determine facts. Oh... that's been done and you lost. Twice. That's what the observable evidence is.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Most abortions are performed using medication, no surgery at all.
Fake news.
A D&E is not the medical expression of abortion.

You are wrong again. Dilation and Extraction is technical and correct.

Medical professionals don't fall for your word games.
Abortion is the medical expression of abortion. It may be a spontaneous abortion, aka a miscarriage, or an induced abortion, which may be surgical or medical. A D&E is a possible abortion procedure but is also used when the foetus is already dead. Both D&E and D&C are just acronyms for different ways of clearing the uterus and its lining. Neither of them is exclusive to abortions nor do either of them mean the same thing as abortion.

It is true that nobody reads your posts in order to learn. This is because your ignorance and inaccuracy are so well-known that you are incapable of teaching. As you demonstrate in your post, your medical knowledge is miniscule and is limited to a hurried misreading of what you have gleaned from the Internet.
No nurses or docs care what pro-deather jailors babble about.
 

Temujin

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Fake news.
Wrong. As usual. Look up the stats.
You are wrong again. Dilation and Extraction is technical and correct.
It is indeed, but not for abortion. Not all D and E are abortions, nor are all abortions D and E. You are just displaying your pitiful medical understanding gained from Google.
Medical professionals don't fall for your word games.
I'm not talking to medical professionals. I'm talking to you.

No nurses or docs care what pro-deather jailors babble about.
Yet you do. Reinforcing, as if there was any doubt, the fact that you have no knowledge of either nurse or doctors, except as a patient.
 

BMS

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Tell that to the judges whose job it is to determine facts. Oh... that's been done and you lost. Twice. That's what the observable evidence is.
The fact is the unborn with Downs syndrome can be aborted up to birth, unlike other unborn humans. That discriminates against the unborn with Downs syndrome. No one needs to tell someone else Temujin, really doesnt change.
 

Temujin

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The fact is the unborn with Downs syndrome can be aborted up to birth, unlike other unborn humans.
Actually this applies to all unborn children with serious disabilities.
That discriminates against the unborn with Downs syndrome.
No it doesn't. It's impossible to discriminate against unborn children. They have no rights and cannot be a victim of anything, including discrimination. The only person in the equation is the mother. You fail to grasp this, but it's a fact. Quite a lot of what you believe is obviously wrong. This is one such thing, that happens to have been proved to be wrong by a court action and subsequent appeal. Claim your own facts as much as you like, but reality doesn't change.
 

BMS

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Actually this applies to all unborn children with serious disabilities.
But not other humans without serious disabilities. So its not equal for all unborn. you said it was. It isn't. That means it is discrimination against the unborn with Downs syndrome
 

Temujin

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So you agree then, you were wrong to claim equality because its not equal for all unborn?
No. All unborn are equally without rights. The notion of equality doesn't apply to them. Only the mother, her rights and her treatment matter.
 
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