H mom claim The only way to remove a fetus at 17 weeks is called "abortion."

Strawman.

They can do that by keeping their legs closed.

Judgment from a hater has no value. Esp from a rabid pro-abort.

Not by abortion.

Opinion of no value.

So you are saying men have no say in this. It was men who legalized abortion. So you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Opinion. You have been proven wrong before on all this so not a reliable source.


Not a justification for murder.
Even if everything in the article you cite is true (which I doubt) it is still not an argument for illegalising abortion. It is an argument for making sure pregnant women know all the facts, no more.
 
Strawman.

They can do that by keeping their legs closed.

Judgment from a hater has no value. Esp from a rabid pro-abort.

Not by abortion.

Opinion of no value.

So you are saying men have no say in this. It was men who legalized abortion. So you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Opinion. You have been proven wrong before on all this so not a reliable source.


Not a justification for murder.
Your insistence, against known facts, that abortion is murder, devalues your opinion to garbage. You know nothing about this subject, and it shows.
 
No, that's you showing your ignorance of what the word "Abortion" means.
Your claim is completely false. Wails jailer doesn't know a D&E is not a D&C

Why do pro-abortion people lie? They repeat false info from the abortion chambers.

Do you know why you like to disagree with American Board Certified OB Docs?

You have been caught and have to defend the atheist ego.

Who was the documented liar that claimed I had never been in an operating room theater? The same documented liar who has no clue that people working inside surgery never mention theater?

Jesus says people who follow the Devil follow Satan who is the father of death and lies.

It is important for atheists to lie to my face about my credentials. It confirms how atheists make claims without gathering facts.

Ignorance.
 
Your claim is completely false. Wails jailer doesn't know a D&E is not a D&C

Why do pro-abortion people lie? They repeat false info from the abortion chambers.

Do you know why you like to disagree with American Board Certified OB Docs?

You have been caught and have to defend the atheist ego.

Who was the documented liar that claimed I had never been in an operating room theater? The same documented liar who has no clue that people working inside surgery never mention theater?

Jesus says people who follow the Devil follow Satan who is the father of death and lies.

It is important for atheists to lie to my face about my credentials. It confirms how atheists make claims without gathering facts.

Ignorance.
There ia a prolific and obvious liar on these boards, who lies particularly about your supposed medical knowledge and training. The lies are so clear and pathetic that we all wonder what drives the liar to such shameful statements, clearly at odds with his apparent religious belief. We also all know who the liar is, you more than anybody.
 
Your insistence, against known facts, that abortion is murder, devalues your opinion to garbage. You know nothing about this subject, and it shows.
All you are doing here is hurling out invective.



By age 45, 1 out of every 2.5 women in the United States has had at least one abortion!*​

How effective is the abortion pill?​

The abortion pill is very effective. The effectiveness depends on how far along you are in your pregnancy when you take the medicine.

  • For people who are 8 weeks pregnant or less, it works about 94-98 out of 100 times.
  • For people who are 8-9 weeks pregnant, it works about 94-96 out of 100 times.
  • For people who are 9-10 weeks pregnant, it works about 91-93 out of 100 times. If you're given an extra dose of medicine, it works about 99 out of 100 times.
  • For people who are 10-11 weeks pregnant, it works about 87 out of 100 times. If you're given an extra dose of medicine, it works about 98 out of 100 times.
The abortion pill usually works, but if it doesn’t, you can take more medicine or have an in-clinic abortion to complete the abortion.
 
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All you are doing here is hurling out invective.



By age 45, 1 out of every 2.5 women in the United States has had at least one abortion!*​

How effective is the abortion pill?​

The abortion pill is very effective. The effectiveness depends on how far along you are in your pregnancy when you take the medicine.

  • For people who are 8 weeks pregnant or less, it works about 94-98 out of 100 times.
  • For people who are 8-9 weeks pregnant, it works about 94-96 out of 100 times.
  • For people who are 9-10 weeks pregnant, it works about 91-93 out of 100 times. If you're given an extra dose of medicine, it works about 99 out of 100 times.
  • For people who are 10-11 weeks pregnant, it works about 87 out of 100 times. If you're given an extra dose of medicine, it works about 98 out of 100 times.
The abortion pill usually works, but if it doesn’t, you can take more medicine or have an in-clinic abortion to complete the abortion.
Planned Parenthood has no incentive to be accurate and truthful.
 
Planned Parenthood has no incentive to be accurate and truthful.
What i found interesting about the PASS site is all the post-abortion damage abortion does which they all deny. Esp with the pill abortion that works up to 10 weeks (?) They probably can see the results. Anyways it sounds like a lot of females are distressed over it all.

They are not telling these females the whole truth about after abortion trauma.

  • I just had my abortion in October of 1999. I was 19 and 3 days away from starting school at the Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale. I couldn't even tell my mom. I just handed her the EPT stick and started crying. My boyfriend at the time and I had always decided that if I did get pregnant, that I would have an abortion. My best friend had had 2 abortions. Both of those facts never bothered me until it was my turn. But before I found out that I was pregnant, my boyfriend and I kind of drifted apart. I called him the night I found out and just basically said, " I'm pregnant and its yours but I don't need you to take me or give me the money, I can do it by myself." And do you know what he said? "How do you know its mine?" Those are the six words that would make any woman feel angry and alone, but most of all, worthless. I made my appointment and basically put the abortion thoughts out of my head. I knew I was pregnant, but never put the two thoughts together in my head. "I am pregnant and am going to have an abortion." The abortion pain started at about 9am when they packed my cervix full of "seaweed" and told me to go kill about 4 hours. The cramps were unbearable. I couldn't walk, I couldn't sit, and there was no place I could lay in a fetal position, except my house and I was dead set against going there for fear of getting there and not wanting to go back and face the music. My best friend had taken me and the whole time she was talking on her cell phone to her boyfriend who was my boyfriend's cousin, who kept asking and making sure that I was going to go through with it. You see, they're Jordanian, and he told me if I had the baby, he would fight me in court for custody and if he couldn't get it in court, he would just kidnap him. If I gave the child up for adoption, he would kill me. And I believed him. I can't really recall what happened or the sounds very well in the room. I just remember getting some Demerol and feeling extremely drunk within seconds and then blinding pain. I was so doped up, I was just screaming and begging them to take the clamps out. I just remember saying "Oh God oh God" over and over with the vacuum. And I felt the vacuum just sucking my insides. This is the first time I have really thought about it and relived the experience. I never got real depressed about it before. Maybe a little tear here or there, but now, I just sob uncontrollably and I feel like I would rather die that become pregnant now and be forced to have another abortion. I think what brought it on was that my new boyfriend bought me a puppy. I've never been this protective of an animal before in my life. And I've just noticed that for the month or so that I have had him, I've been really depressed and I don't know why.
Yup she got pregnant by a real jerk.
 
What i found interesting about the PASS site is all the post-abortion damage abortion does which they all deny. Esp with the pill abortion that works up to 10 weeks (?) They probably can see the results. Anyways it sounds like a lot of females are distressed over it all.

They are not telling these females the whole truth about after abortion trauma.

  • I just had my abortion in October of 1999. I was 19 and 3 days away from starting school at the Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale. I couldn't even tell my mom. I just handed her the EPT stick and started crying. My boyfriend at the time and I had always decided that if I did get pregnant, that I would have an abortion. My best friend had had 2 abortions. Both of those facts never bothered me until it was my turn. But before I found out that I was pregnant, my boyfriend and I kind of drifted apart. I called him the night I found out and just basically said, " I'm pregnant and its yours but I don't need you to take me or give me the money, I can do it by myself." And do you know what he said? "How do you know its mine?" Those are the six words that would make any woman feel angry and alone, but most of all, worthless. I made my appointment and basically put the abortion thoughts out of my head. I knew I was pregnant, but never put the two thoughts together in my head. "I am pregnant and am going to have an abortion." The abortion pain started at about 9am when they packed my cervix full of "seaweed" and told me to go kill about 4 hours. The cramps were unbearable. I couldn't walk, I couldn't sit, and there was no place I could lay in a fetal position, except my house and I was dead set against going there for fear of getting there and not wanting to go back and face the music. My best friend had taken me and the whole time she was talking on her cell phone to her boyfriend who was my boyfriend's cousin, who kept asking and making sure that I was going to go through with it. You see, they're Jordanian, and he told me if I had the baby, he would fight me in court for custody and if he couldn't get it in court, he would just kidnap him. If I gave the child up for adoption, he would kill me. And I believed him. I can't really recall what happened or the sounds very well in the room. I just remember getting some Demerol and feeling extremely drunk within seconds and then blinding pain. I was so doped up, I was just screaming and begging them to take the clamps out. I just remember saying "Oh God oh God" over and over with the vacuum. And I felt the vacuum just sucking my insides. This is the first time I have really thought about it and relived the experience. I never got real depressed about it before. Maybe a little tear here or there, but now, I just sob uncontrollably and I feel like I would rather die that become pregnant now and be forced to have another abortion. I think what brought it on was that my new boyfriend bought me a puppy. I've never been this protective of an animal before in my life. And I've just noticed that for the month or so that I have had him, I've been really depressed and I don't know why.
Yup she got pregnant by a real jerk.
One swallow does not a summer make.

It is not pro-choicers who fail to tell the truth about abortion and "after abortion trauma".
 
What i found interesting about the PASS site is all the post-abortion damage abortion does which they all deny. Esp with the pill abortion that works up to 10 weeks (?) They probably can see the results. Anyways it sounds like a lot of females are distressed over it all.

They are not telling these females the whole truth about after abortion trauma.

  • I just had my abortion in October of 1999. I was 19 and 3 days away from starting school at the Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale. I couldn't even tell my mom. I just handed her the EPT stick and started crying. My boyfriend at the time and I had always decided that if I did get pregnant, that I would have an abortion. My best friend had had 2 abortions. Both of those facts never bothered me until it was my turn. But before I found out that I was pregnant, my boyfriend and I kind of drifted apart. I called him the night I found out and just basically said, " I'm pregnant and its yours but I don't need you to take me or give me the money, I can do it by myself." And do you know what he said? "How do you know its mine?" Those are the six words that would make any woman feel angry and alone, but most of all, worthless. I made my appointment and basically put the abortion thoughts out of my head. I knew I was pregnant, but never put the two thoughts together in my head. "I am pregnant and am going to have an abortion." The abortion pain started at about 9am when they packed my cervix full of "seaweed" and told me to go kill about 4 hours. The cramps were unbearable. I couldn't walk, I couldn't sit, and there was no place I could lay in a fetal position, except my house and I was dead set against going there for fear of getting there and not wanting to go back and face the music. My best friend had taken me and the whole time she was talking on her cell phone to her boyfriend who was my boyfriend's cousin, who kept asking and making sure that I was going to go through with it. You see, they're Jordanian, and he told me if I had the baby, he would fight me in court for custody and if he couldn't get it in court, he would just kidnap him. If I gave the child up for adoption, he would kill me. And I believed him. I can't really recall what happened or the sounds very well in the room. I just remember getting some Demerol and feeling extremely drunk within seconds and then blinding pain. I was so doped up, I was just screaming and begging them to take the clamps out. I just remember saying "Oh God oh God" over and over with the vacuum. And I felt the vacuum just sucking my insides. This is the first time I have really thought about it and relived the experience. I never got real depressed about it before. Maybe a little tear here or there, but now, I just sob uncontrollably and I feel like I would rather die that become pregnant now and be forced to have another abortion. I think what brought it on was that my new boyfriend bought me a puppy. I've never been this protective of an animal before in my life. And I've just noticed that for the month or so that I have had him, I've been really depressed and I don't know why.
Yup she got pregnant by a real jerk.
The Devil is the father of death and lies.
 
You know who never talks about postpartum depression?

Pro-lifers.

Some women are traumatized by abortion, just as some women are traumatized by healthy birth of a living child they love.

Please explain why one is ideologically significant but the other is not...
 
God's way is one way. Natural child birth
If the baby dies naturally , way number two the mom starts having contractions and delivers stillborn;
Way number three, a D&C The D&C procedures under block or general anesthesia have been done many many years before Roe v Wade
Way number four is a C-Section. Laparotomy. Midline or Pfannenstiel incision (transverse incision above the rectus abdominas aka bikini incision)


The Ministry of Misinformation is on steroids in the abortuary industries.

Notice the offered contradiction. Only way and then 2 alternative ways.

Abortion is D&E The living baby is killed and extracted. D&C is legal because they OB doc is NOT killing the baby.
When politix tries to hijack medicine, they post false claims.

They can't handle being corrected by Board Certified OB sources.

So pretending to ignore and censorship flares up.
Now I'm kind of sorry I put A.N. on ignore. I almost want to know what he said. Not enough to click the "show ignored content" link, but.....
 
When politix tries to hijack medicine, they post false claims.

They can't handle being corrected by Board Certified OB sources.

So pretending to ignore and censorship flares up.
Dr Google and Dr Bing are not Board Certified OB sources. They are however, the only sources you ever use for anything. And despite the years of practice, you still don't know how to find truthful information from them.
 
Dr Google and Dr Bing are not Board Certified OB sources. They are however, the only sources you ever use for anything. And despite the years of practice, you still don't know how to find truthful information from them.
None of my Board Certified OB sources care about what uneducated Wails Jailers peddle. America is far beyond your filthy primitive medical care.
Why are atheists dishonest?
 
None of my Board Certified OB sources care about what uneducated Wails Jailers peddle. America is far beyond your filthy primitive medical care.
Why are atheists dishonest?
Why is healthcare in the UK better and cheaper than in the US? Indeed, why is healthcare in most of the developed world better and cheaper than in the US? Unless you are so rich than money is no object of course.

Your only sources are Internet search engines.
 
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