Electric Skeptic
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Has there ever been a societal issue on which the conservative side has subsequently been proven to be in the right?
Depends what you mean by 'right'Has there ever been a societal issue on which the conservative side has subsequently been proven to be in the right?
Yes. The Christian abolitionists.Has there ever been a societal issue on which the conservative side has subsequently been proven to be in the right?
I think that's fair, but honestly, they were right because they turned away from the conservatism of the day.Yes. The Christian abolitionists.
No they stuck with Jesus teaching.I think that's fair, but honestly, they were right because they turned away from the conservatism of the day.
As we saw Christians in line with Jesus teaching got the slave trade abolished, however there are more slaves now than then, but concerning sex rather than cotton.Slavery (oh wait)
Apart from the sexually deviant Corinthian church, the NT treats women equally. Jesus affirmed that the very image of God is a man and a woman to be in union.Women's suffrage (dang, that one too)
yep.Sex education (nope)
could beThe War on Terrorism (conservatives can't seem to catch a break here)
Jesus said there will be wars and rumours of warsThe Iraq War (oops)
Ugh?Saturday morning cartoon violence (I think we need MORE of it)
Western society falling apartP0rn rock (western society still intact)
Could be. 'Not my president' indicates there might well have beenVoter fraud (never a significant problem)
Western society falling apart, it doesnt take all the studies to know that children perform better being raised with a loving biological father and mother, increasingly being eroded by woke ideologyTraditional marriage (yeah, society didn't fall apart there either)
Who? Women and men are distinct by anatomy and not by some people's imagination. Even gays and lesbians are against this made up stupidityKeeping bathrooms safe from transgenders (bwahaha)
"Jesus teaching" says nothing about the keeping of slaves being bad.No they stuck with Jesus teaching.
Gave you the NT scriptures. What do you mean by slaves?"Jesus teaching" says nothing about the keeping of slaves being bad.
Your list is often vague and largely opinion rather than specific policies that have been shown to have a positive effect on society.Conservatives have been right about...
- the destructive nature of pornography
- the value of the free market
- the family operates best with a mom (a female parent) and a dad (male parent)
- men are biological males and women are biological females
- the idea of "defunding the police" is absurd
- individual freedom and liberty are to be fought for
- in general, the less government intrusion and control in our lives, the better
- smaller government (in terms of goods and services and administration and power) is preferable to larger government
- abortion is really, really bad
- religious faith is valuable to a healthy society
- while wrong about a stupid "wall", conservatives have been right that a nation needs to have well-defined and enforced immigration policy
- school choice
- communism is bad and should be opposed
Just some examples.
Did you really post that?Liberals have also argued for a well-defined immigration policy, while your side has focused on a wall and taken children from their parents.
But when I brought up the specific policy of Johnsons War on Poverty being bad for black families, as documented by the late democratic senator Monahan, you said that liberals intentions were good and that was what counted.Your list is often vague and largely opinion rather than specific policies that have been shown to have a positive effect on society.
After all, conservatives and liberals defend different examples of "individual liberty and freedom".
And there are certainly govt programs that are highly effective, like SS and Medicare, which conservatives oppose.
Conservatives are all for smaller govt unless it has to do with women's reproduction, school curricula, library books, who can get married, what states should get federal aid, etc.
Liberals have also argued for a well-defined immigration policy, while your side has focused on a wall and taken children from their parents.
OTOH, it is liberals that are responsible for civil rights and voting rights, which conservatives are trying to weaken.
There is no evidence that religious faith is valuable to a healthy society. After all, there are fewer believers in well-run countries in Europe or places like Japan. OTOH religion can be destructive to a healthy society as it can be used to suppress some groups and countenance discrimination.
With liberals they only judge their policies by the intentions not the results.Did you really post that?
How many people has the Wall taken from American families due to the drugs smuggled across the border? 100,000 or so a year?
Why have your Marxist friends created such disarray in those countries that the people feel the need to flee to America?
Why are you onboard with the New World Order, World Economic Forumm, WHO and the UN? We can even throw in a little Billy Gates, Geo Soros and the world banks.
What is your criteria for being right?Has there ever been a societal issue on which the conservative side has subsequently been proven to be in the right?
The poster believes that all liberals are as pure as the wind driven snow.Your list is often vague and largely opinion rather than specific policies that have been shown to have a positive effect on society.
After all, conservatives and liberals defend different examples of "individual liberty and freedom".
And there are certainly govt programs that are highly effective, like SS and Medicare, which conservatives oppose.
Conservatives are all for smaller govt unless it has to do with women's reproduction, school curricula, library books, who can get married, what states should get federal aid, etc.
Liberals have also argued for a well-defined immigration policy, while your side has focused on a wall and taken children from their parents.
OTOH, it is liberals that are responsible for civil rights and voting rights, which conservatives are trying to weaken.
There is no evidence that religious faith is valuable to a healthy society. After all, there are fewer believers in well-run countries in Europe or places like Japan. OTOH religion can be destructive to a healthy society as it can be used to suppress some groups and countenance discrimination.
Your list is often vague and largely opinion rather than specific policies that have been shown to have a positive effect on society.
After all, conservatives and liberals defend different examples of "individual liberty and freedom".
And there are certainly govt programs that are highly effective, like SS and Medicare, which conservatives oppose.
Conservatives are all for smaller govt unless it has to do with women's reproduction, school curricula, library books, who can get married, what states should get federal aid, etc.
Liberals have also argued for a well-defined immigration policy, while your side has focused on a wall and taken children from their parents.
OTOH, it is liberals that are responsible for civil rights and voting rights, which conservatives are trying to weaken.
There is no evidence that religious faith is valuable to a healthy society. After all, there are fewer believers in well-run countries in Europe or places like Japan. OTOH religion can be destructive to a healthy society as it can be used to suppress some groups and countenance discrimination.
Isn't it amazing how all these liberals have better values than God"Jesus teaching" says nothing about the keeping of slaves being bad.