Have you seen God do an abortion?

[Magdalena]

Where in the rules are graphic video's permitted? Please copy/paste that language and the link to said rule.

You exploit the graphic torture of the unborn to make your point.
That's not respect for the unborn. That's opportunism.

Romans 13

Abortion cannot be against God's laws. Because God murdered the unborn, the newborn, and infants, as his will determined righteous in order to accomplish God's plans.

You imagine we're to demonstrate a higher morality than God does in matters of the unborn.

Psalm 115:3
Our God is in heaven. He does whatever he pleases.

“And Hazael said, “Why does my lord weep?” He answered, “Because I know the evil that you will do to the people of Israel. You will set on fire their fortresses, and you will kill their young men with the sword and dash in pieces their little ones and rip open their pregnant women.” ~ 2Kings 8:12

 

[Magdalena]

I asked if you support the death penalty.

Being Pro-Life stops post-utero?

And I said we’re talking about abortion. Can you stay on topic?

 

[Miriam]

And I said we’re talking about abortion. Can you stay on topic?

I am.

 

[Magdalena]

I am.

Babies, Miriam. Abortion. That’s the title of the thread.

 

[Beloved Daughter]

I asked if you support the death penalty.

Being Pro-Life stops post-utero?

I am not pro-death penalty. But not because it's wrong to do so, but because our system meets out this punishment for political/hateful reasons. The crucifixion of Jesus is but one example.

 

[Beloved Daughter]

Where in the rules are graphic video's permitted? Please copy/paste that language and the link to said rule.

You exploit the graphic torture of the unborn to make your point.
That's not respect for the unborn. That's opportunism.

Romans 13

Abortion cannot be against God's laws. Because God murdered the unborn, the newborn, and infants, as his will determined righteous in order to accomplish God's plans.

You imagine we're to demonstrate a higher morality than God does in matters of the unborn.

Psalm 115:3
Our God is in heaven. He does whatever he pleases.

1. No graphics were shown. But even if they were, it will not be against the rules.

2. I'm not the ones disrespecting these babies, you seem to be completely content to allow this to happen.

3. I'm not going to use the 'H' word because that would be against the rules.

4. Speaking of the rules . . . you agreed to follow them when you signed up. I can only conclude that you either didn't read the rules, didn't understand the rules, or chose to ignore them. But let's not waste time bickering. You can find the rules posted on the top set of topics at the top. It very clearly shown and says CARM RULES LINK.

I know the rules very well. You apparently do not. But of course, you can still report me and see if it will work.

It's too bad that you support these abortions but can't stand for anyone to see what it really is. It's a depraved assault on one's own child.

5. When God drowned the human race, He did so for His reasons, and none of us know what happened to any of these babies/children.

6. You are coming dangerously close to one the rules. Read the rules and see if you can find it.

 

[Miriam]

I am not pro-death penalty. But not because it's wrong to do so, but because our system meets out this punishment for political/hateful reasons. The crucifixion of Jesus is but one example.

😳I didn't realize you were atheist.

John 10:17 "This is why the Father loves me—because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father.”

1. No graphics were shown. But even if they were, it will not be against the rules.

2. I'm not the ones disrespecting these babies, you seem to be completely content to allow this to happen.

3. I'm not going to use the 'H' word because that would be against the rules.

4. Speaking of the rules . . . you agreed to follow them when you signed up. I can only conclude that you either didn't read the rules, didn't understand the rules, or chose to ignore them. But let's not waste time bickering. You can find the rules posted on the top set of topics at the top. It very clearly shown and says CARM RULES LINK.

I know the rules very well. You apparently do not. But of course, you can still report me and see if it will work.

It's too bad that you support these abortions but can't stand for anyone to see what it really is. It's a depraved assault on one's own child.

5. When God drowned the human race, He did so for His reasons, and none of us know what happened to any of these babies/children.

6. You are coming dangerous close to one the rules. Read the rules and see if you can find it.

I know the rules. When you imply adhoms, you lost the debate .

I'll just stop engaging with you. It isn't healthy for my Christian spirit.

 

[Beloved Daughter]

😳I didn't realize you were atheist.

John 10:17 "This is why the Father loves me—because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father.”


I know the rules. When you imply adhoms, you lost the debate .

I'll just stop engaging with you. It isn't healthy for my Christian spirit.

I'm not an atheist, but anyone who supports the carnage of babies being torn limb from limb IMO is.

You started by telling me I broke the rules. That was a false accusation but you (who has only been here for only 11 days) think you know better. You don't. I can only conclude that you have no interest in the rules.

Then you try to make me look disrespectful and I object, because people who do this kind of shifting the burden don't know how to debate.

Yes, Jesus laid down his life voluntarily for his elect, yet you miss that God used the Pharisees' lies, to set the crucifixion up. You don't even consider anything else.

If you question my salvation, see Rule 12.1

Know that I report very little, but if this happens again. I will report you.

Don't engage with me. But I will engage with you if I see you supporting abortion.

This is what CARM thinks about abortion:

Abortion and infanticide in the Old Testament? | carm.org

Aborting what? | What does abortion actually mean? | carm.org

Examining the mantra “my body, my choice ”the abortion debate | carm.org

Does Numbers 5:11-31 prescribe an abortion drug in cases of adultery? (carm.org)

Pastors blessing planned parenthood in Ohio | carm.org

Would you save a child over an embryo? | carm.org

Abortion and the Era of the Early Church Councils | carm.org

Are unborn babies technically a parasite? | carm.org

It looks like you are running out on debate.

 

[Beloved Daughter]

😳I didn't realize you were atheist.

John 10:17 "This is why the Father loves me—because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father.”


I know the rules. When you imply adhoms, you lost the debate .

I'll just stop engaging with you. It isn't healthy for my Christian spirit.

A Christian spirit is not in favor of the depraved actions of people who would tear a baby limb from limb and then crushing their skulls. This is an abomination. You argue against 'forcing a woman' to carry a baby in the womb. Yet when you see it you recoil and complain that it's too graphic.

I have refrained from showing even more ghastly videos. The baby doesn't have a hideous birth defect, it about the mother's convenience. Let her give her child up for abortion.

I served in the Navy for more than 20 years as a Nurse. I know full well what a heinous thing abortion is. Luckily when I was serving, abortion for Navy women was forbidden. I served during Desert Storm. All the countries I visited there had no abortion clinics.

 

[BMS]

Abortion was illegal once. (So too was birth control.)

So we can make pro-choice abortion illegal again so you will be happy because it is the law.

We all know prohibition does not insure morality. Rather, it invites black market opportunists who will exploit the needy of that what is made illegal.

We all know that education with the truth is more effective, but we have to start by you dropping your position of supporting the killing of offspring for selfish reasons.

Women died having suffered at the hands if such people.

Hundreds of offspring are dying every day so why are you concerned about a few women. That is pretty sick. And women have died during abortions so do you agree pro-choice abortion should stop, if not what is your point here?

Do those lost lives matter?

Not viable like the aborted offspring? What is your point?

Imagine the heartbreak of a miscarriage being compounded by homicide detectives asking if you purposefully killed your baby.

Yep. So education is the key as I said.

 

[BMS]

I asked if you support the death penalty.

Being Pro-Life stops post-utero?

Why? We’re talking about killing innocent, defenseless babies, Miriam. The death penalty for innocent people you mean?

 

[BMS]

I wonder if someone respects a baby how they'd broadcast such carnage and destruction of them on a forum where living children may dwell.

Is that video against the posting rules?

Well they respect a baby, thats why. They respect a baby enough to post about what you support in killing the baby.
Yes I agree it shouldnt be broadcast where children might watch, even though they see all kinds of bad stuff Tik Tok. But remember you support this that you think is too offensive for children to see.

 

[BMS]

I am.

But we dont equate the killing of innocent offspring by the choice of the mother who created them, with the death penalty for people such as murderers. Unless you are saying women who choose to have abortions should receive the death penalty?

 

[BMS]

😳I didn't realize you were atheist.

John 10:17 "This is why the Father loves me—because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father.”


I know the rules. When you imply adhoms, you lost the debate .

I'll just stop engaging with you. It isn't healthy for my Christian spirit.

1 John 4 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God"

... out of context but valid nevertheless..

Luke 1 . 17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

 

[Beloved Daughter]

Well they respect a baby, thats why. They respect a baby enough to post about what you support in killing the baby.
Yes I agree it shouldnt be broadcast where children might watch, even though they see all kinds of bad stuff Tik Tok. But remember you support this that you think is too offensive for children to see.

CARM holds to COPPA law. No one under the age of 13 can post or view material. Unless they have parental permission.

 

[BMS]

CARM holds to COPPA law. No one under the age of 13 can post or view material. Unless they have parental permission.

Ah thanks Beloved Daughter.

over to you Miriam.

 

[Miriam]

So we can make pro-choice abortion illegal again so you will be happy because it is the law.

We all know that education with the truth is more effective, but we have to start by you dropping your position of supporting the killing of offspring for selfish reasons.

Hundreds of offspring are dying every day so why are you concerned about a few women. That is pretty sick. And women have died during abortions so do you agree pro-choice abortion should stop, if not what is your point here?
Not viable like the aborted offspring? What is your point?

Yep. So education is the key as I said.

You've made the point forced pregnancy by law zealots always make. The only life that matters is the baby.

That's not Pro-Life. That's not Pro-Quality of life for the baby or mom That's Fascist Misogyny.

The Pro-Life Agenda fails because it is immoral and irrational.

 

[BMS]

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Pregnancy can only be forced if it was rape. Otherwise its is how the human species reproduces.

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Absolutely not, the life of the mother even above the unborn offspring where her life is in danger with the pregnancy.

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What is? The human reproductive process? Are you saying that unless the mother can choose to kill her offspring its fascism? Also how would misogyny apply since most women would never wish to destroy their babies?

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As we see its pro-choice that fails because it is immoral and irrational; not least because it calls the human reproductive process forced.

 

[Miriam]

Pregnancy can only be forced if it was rape. Otherwise its is how the human species reproduces.

Absolutely not, the life of the mother even above the unborn offspring where her life is in danger with the pregnancy.

What is? The human reproductive process? Are you saying that unless the mother can choose to kill her offspring its fascism? Also how would misogyny apply since most women would never wish to destroy their babies?

As we see its pro-choice that fails because it is immoral and irrational; not least because it calls the human reproductive process forced.

No, forced pregnancy against a womans will occurs when Anti-Choice advocates insist abortion be illegal no matter what

The rest is just going in circles. I'm not fond of those.

 

[BMS]

No, forced pregnancy against a womans will occurs when Anti-Choice advocates insist abortion be illegal no matter what

The rest is just going in circles. I'm not fond of those.

No, during the human reproductive the woman becomes pregnant and the offspring is gestated. One cant choose this or anything else. So it isnt forced.

No question of any going round in circles, that is the reality