He Who proceed receives divine existence from Another

[Yahchristian]

TRINITARIANS say...

When we speak of His existence as received, we mean that He Who proceed receives divine existence from Another, but not however as if He were Other from The Divine Nature.

So just to clarify your TRINITARIAN view...

Is this statement true?

One Divine Person receives His existence from another Divine Person.

I say NO!

By definition, an omnipotent Divine Person would not need to have “received” anything from another.

 

[Yahchristian]

I say NO!

By definition, an omnipotent Divine Person would not need to have “received” anything from another.

When TRINITARIANS are asked...

Whether there is procession in God?

TRINITARIANS reply...

When we speak of His existence as received, we mean that He Who proceed receives divine existence from Another, but not however as if He were Other from The Divine Nature.

So just to clarify your TRINITARIAN view...

Is this statement true?

One Divine Person receives His existence from another Divine Person.

 

[Yahchristian]

TRINITARIANS reply...

When we speak of His existence as received, we mean that He Who proceed receives divine existence from Another, but not however as if He were Other from The Divine Nature.

@aeg4971, just to clarify your TRINITARIAN view...

Is this statement true?

One Divine Person receives His existence from another Divine Person.

 

[aeg4971]

@aeg4971, just to clarify your TRINITARIAN view...

Is this statement true?

One Divine Person receives His existence from another Divine Person.

He who proceed receives Divine Existence from Another, but not however as if He were Other from The Divine Nature. The Father Begat The Son, and both singly Breathes forth The Third Person of The Holy Spirit. All of which Negate" Jesus is his own Father , Son, and Holy Spirit".

Neither dividing the Substance, nor confounding and confusing The Subsistence (ie Manner of Existence/Existing).And thus we Number. ,not that number(ie decrease or increase), is actually in God. So not rocket science , or polytheism.

.........Alan

 

[Yahchristian]

Is this statement true?

One Divine Person receives His existence from another Divine Person.

He who proceed receives Divine Existence from Another, but not however as if He were Other from The Divine Nature. The Father Begat The Son, and both singly Breathes forth The Third Person of The Holy Spirit. All of which Negate" Jesus is his own Father , Son, and Holy Spirit".

It is interesting that you are unable to answer Yes or No to the question.

Are you able to answer Yes or No to this question...

Is this statement true?

The second Divine Person receives His existence from the first Divine Person.

 

[johnny guitar]

It is interesting that you are unable to answer Yes or No to the question.

Are you able to answer Yes or No to this question...

Is this statement true?

The second Divine Person receives His existence from the first Divine Person.

The Son has existed from eternity.

 

[Yahchristian]

The Son has existed from eternity.

So..........

Are you able to answer Yes or No to this question...

Is this statement true?

The second Divine Person receives His existence from the first Divine Person.

 

[johnny guitar]

So..........

Are you able to answer Yes or No to this question...

Is this statement true?

The second Divine Person receives His existence from the first Divine Person.

Since The Son has always existed, I would say NO.

 

[Yahchristian]

Is this statement true?

The second Divine Person receives His existence from the first Divine Person.

Since The Son has always existed, I would say NO.

@aeg4971, is @johnny guitar correct?

 

[aeg4971]

It is interesting that you are unable to answer Yes or No to the question.

Are you able to answer Yes or No to this question...

Is this statement true?

The second Divine Person receives His existence from the first Divine Person.

On the contrary The Second Person of The Son has the existence of The Divine Essence itself just as has God The Father. As also with The Person of The Holy Spirit. Hence The Son is Ever Born, and thus the Term of The Principle. All of which is signified by Logos/Word. It follows as Johnny Guitar reminds us when he said "NO".," God has from all Eternity Generated His Consubstantial, Word and The Word Himself proceeding is properly called Begotten and rightly called Son". Likewise The Third Person of The Holy Spirit is The Procession of The Principle whereby The Father and The Son together singly Ever Breathes a subsisting Hypostasis.

Your question is supposed in a" greater or less" ," increase or decrease" , as in degrees of numbers, wherefore dividing the Substance, as all Oneness and semi Arians Unitarians insist on doing. . That is to say ,"your question (as will most), fallaciously presupposes unequal proportions, and thus The Three Divine Persons would not be of One Essence, which clearly would conflict with The Divine Self Subsistence /Divine Self Sovereignty. .Ir follows Each Divine Person by Himself , we number "Three," signified by Trinity, , only being distinguished by their Relation of Origin ,; has the Existence/Subsistence of The Divine Nature/(ie Common Spiration) in Himself .When it is said," Sharing The Divine Nature ,We mean " Common Spiration". Same Virtus Spirationis.

So No we do not speak of His existence as received , as if created matter received into a composite subject ,but rather Communicated in the , Infinite Divine Procession of The Logos/Word in God, (only Begotten Wisdom,) which is rightly called Generation.

5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

18. No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The Bosom of The Father is nothing else than Divine Substance itself.


........Alan