SteveB
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Do you have definitive proof that Zeus was a real being, let alone an actual god?I did. BTW, Heracles mother was mortal and his father was a God. Lot of that going around.
Or am I just supposed to take the claim on faith?
I.e., has he done anything to corroborate his existence and godhood?
you can do that simply by ignoring it.That’s not the exercise. The exercise is simply to show that Christianity is not a revelatory religion from God.
here's what you appear to not grasp.
the amount of energy you expend in trying to persuade strangers that it is irrelevant demonstrates that it's entirely relevant.
furthermore, it proves that what Jesus taught is true.
the worst you'll achieve is sending yourself to hell, along with whomever believes you.
Yet you can't actually demonstrate that.It was a conglomeration of the thoughts and philosophies of Hellenized Judaism.
So, if this is the best that Norman has, I'm not even remotely impressed. I thought you'd actually found something.
Hmm.... let's see....Plato describes it in the Symposium 500 years before Christianity. He got it from Homer. It is the universal love, consisting of love for strangers, nature, or God.
The first exile of Israel took place in the early years of the 6th century BCE.
there's evidence in judges, along with the smaller texts that biblical Judaism in its early years had major impact on the larger region.
furthermore, Abraham was said to be a traveling trader.
he traveled from the area known today as modern Basra, up the Euphrates River, down across to Damascus in through to Egypt. Apparently he had quite well developed interactions with the government in the regions.
He appears to have also been engaged in regional warfare.
As he dates back to the early part of the second millennium BCE, I'd say that predates Homer by a thousand years.
You made it sound as though Norman Bentwich had found something that nobody else had. There's nothing new here.... as you say..... it's history.It’s not Normans ideas. It’s history. He’s not proposing theories. He’s tracing cultural ideological influences that culminated in Christian thought through historical documents.
OK. I've participated in 2, maybe 3.I’ve participated in many seders. First one when I was 12.
It's curious how much you've missed.
Sorry you missed it.
You mean the Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, and Davidic origins? The origins contained in the Jewish biblical prophets?The only question here is when will you ever become educated in your own religion and the origin of its beliefs.
What do you think I'm missing here Nickel?
I think that your belief about how behind I am is that I'm lacking a bunch of theological books written by men who don't actually know YHVH.You are way behind on that.
Since the only title you've given me is Norman Bentwich, and nothing you have posted shows anything I wasn't aware of 35 years ago, I'm not particularly concerned with this statement of yours.
And yet you're the one who is perishing.Comically ignorant to believe as strongly as you do.