Hell's Daily Body Count

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● 1Cor 4:4 . . My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent.

During former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's assassination back in 2011, he
was overheard to complain: Why are you doing this? I've done nothing wrong.

Former US President Richard Nixon once stated-- in so many words --that when a
President breaks the law, it's not a crime.

The USA prohibits discriminatory hiring practices based upon age, race, or sex; yet
when the opportunity came to replace one of the US Supreme Court justices,
President Biden ignored fair hiring practices and announced his intention to
nominate a black woman; thus effectively disqualifying all non black non female
candidates solely upon the basis of their color and their gender.

Those three men serve to demonstrate just how unreliable the human conscience
can be at times.

Man was created with as near a perfect conscience as a creature can be given.

● Gen 1:27 . . God created Man in His own image, in the image of God created He
him.

But then came the forbidden fruit incident by which Man's near-divine conscience
underwent something that caused it to become that of a tin God.

● Gen 3:22 . . The Lord God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Man was able to discern between good and evil before his fall, but that was by
means of a conscience influenced by its maker. The forbidden fruit incident altered
Man's conscience to become his own influence, i.e. Man became defensive, and he
rationalizes a lot too. (Rom 2:14-15)

I think the writer of 1Cor 4:4 was well aware of just how tricky Man's conscience
can be so he was reluctant to insist upon his innocence-- a little sophistry here and
a little rationalizing there, and even incorrigible monsters like Communist China's Xi
Jinping and North Korea's Kim Jong-Un can be persuaded in their own minds to
believe themselves okay guys.

● Jer 17:9-10 . .The heart is more deceitful than all else and is desperately sick;
who can understand it? . . . I, The Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, even to
give to each man according to his ways, according to the results of his deeds.

The upside is: Christ's crucifixion not only serves to rescue people from their sins,
but according to Heb 9:8-14 his death atones for their conscience too.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,255 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 94,274,345 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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One of my favorite lines from the movie "Titanic" is when Mr. Ismay protests that
the ship can't sink; and Mr. Andrews responds: She's made of iron, sir! I assure
you, she can . . . and she will. It is a mathematical certainty.

There are folks at large all across the internet, and around the globe, sincerely
believing that Hell isn't a place of conscious suffering. They, like Mr. Ismay, will be
utterly stunned and bewildered to the limits of human astonishment to discover it's
exactly that.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,260 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 94,649,940 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01 said:
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One of my favorite lines from the movie "Titanic" is when Mr. Ismay protests that the ship can't sink; and Mr. Andrews responds: She's made of iron, sir! I assure you, she can . . . and she will. It is a mathematical certainty.

There are folks at large all across the internet, and around the globe, sincerely
believing that Hell isn't a place of conscious suffering. They, like Mr. Ismay, will be utterly stunned and bewildered to the limits of human astonishment to discover it's exactly that.
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The wicked will indeed suffer for a time in the lake of fire. But I hope you won't be disappointed when they die, and are no more. The wages of sin is death, not eternal conscience torment.

Dant01 said:
BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,260 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 94,649,940 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Nobody has "checked into the first sector of Hades" yet.
 
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In the movie "Shawshank Redemption" a man is given two life sentences for
murders he didn't commit. At first he feels very strongly that the truth will come
out that he's innocent and doesn't belong in prison: he expects to eventually be
exonerated and set free.

Well, one of the old-timers cautioned him about that with the advice: "Hope is a
dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's no use on the inside. You'd
better get used to that idea."

I'd imagine that most new arrivals in Hell take quite a while to get used to the idea
that it is what it is, i.e. they're never getting out.

Were Hell a normal penal colony like San Quentin or Riker's Island; then I think
most folks would eventually settle down and accept it as a way of life. But the
element of fire makes adjustment very difficult. If only there was at least some
water to help folks beat the heat, that would be very helpful. And maybe recreation
and/or something to occupy their minds like reading, writing, art, and construction
projects. I really don't know how people keep from running mad with insanity from
mental atrophy down there.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,265 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 95,025,535 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01 said:
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In the movie "Shawshank Redemption" a man is given two life sentences for
murders he didn't commit. At first he feels very strongly that the truth will come
out that he's innocent and doesn't belong in prison: he expects to eventually be
exonerated and set free.

Well, one of the old-timers cautioned him about that with the advice: "Hope is a
dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's no use on the inside. You'd
better get used to that idea."

I'd imagine that most new arrivals in Hell take quite a while to get used to the idea
that it is what it is, i.e. they're never getting out.

Were Hell a normal penal colony like San Quentin or Riker's Island; then I think
most folks would eventually settle down and accept it as a way of life. But the
element of fire makes adjustment very difficult. If only there was at least some
water to help folks beat the heat, that would be very helpful. And maybe recreation
and/or something to occupy their minds like reading, writing, art, and construction
projects. I really don't know how people keep from running mad with insanity from
mental atrophy down there.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,265 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 95,025,535 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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One way of dealing with opposing viewpoints is to block people who present them. It makes your life easier, there is nothing to respond to, and you're free to post falsehoods.

The human soul is not immortal, Dant01. There is no Dante's Inferno version of Hell. The wages of sin is death, not eternal torment.
 
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There are folks at large-- e.g. Jehovah's Witnesses, et al --who insist human life is
entirely organic and does not survive the termination of one's material body. If it
turns out those folks are resting upon a false premise, their disappointment will be
very grievous.

● Eccl 12:7 . . For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to
God who gave it.

The million dollar question is: What does God do with people's spirit once He gets it
back?

And another: Is it possible peoples' spirits are transferable to a different form of
existence than the one they have now: maybe even an existence that can
withstand incineration?

Those are very, very disturbing questions; especially for Jehovah's Witnesses
because they believe the angel Michael's life force was transferred to Mary's womb
so he could exist as a human being without losing the essence of his identity; and
then when his human existence passed away on the cross, Michael's life force was
transferred back so he could pick up where he left off as an angel. Were I a JW, the
Society's thoughts about life force would make me very nervous.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,270 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 95,401,130 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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● 1Tim 6:7 . .We brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry
nothing out.

That rather blue note impacts everyone: both saint and sinner alike. Regardless of
one's afterlife destination, we all suffer the loss of everything we hold dear: our
photos, our collections, our souvenirs, our hobbies, our favorite sights, sounds, and
locations along with every project and every endeavor. I should think that even
Heaven, though no doubt a nice enough place, is nevertheless a difficult adjustment
for nostalgic folks.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,276 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 95,851,844 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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FAQ: According to Rev 20:14, John saw Death discarded in a lake of fire. Well;
death is an abstract. How then can it be spoken of as an object that can be picked
up and thrown like a baseball or a javelin?

REPLY: That passage is likely speaking of Death as a category consisting of
everything and anything one can possibly imagine that God considers dead to
Himself, i.e. everything with which and/or with whom, He prefers not to associate.

In that respect, the lake of fire could be thought of as a sanitary landfill, viz: there's
a really big Spring cleaning pending on God's to-do list: not only at the great white
throne event, but also upon Jesus' return per Matt 13:40-42.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,281 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 96,227,439 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01 said:
REPLY: That passage is likely speaking of Death as a category consisting of
everything and anything one can possibly imagine that God considers dead to
Himself, i.e. everything with which and/or with whom, He prefers not to associate.
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You made that up. What it means it that death will be destroyed. IOW, there will be no more death.

Also, nobody is in “the fiery sector of Hades.” Judgment is still future.
 
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Hell is a society where evil is neither discouraged nor restrained; so we have to
expect that when new folks arrive there they will be subjected to discord, hatred,
meanness, factions, cliques, mistrust, prejudice, bias, caste systems, double
standards, partiality, racism, sexism, favoritism, deceit, surmising, dishonesty,
gossip, slander, sarcasm, cynicism, ridicule, envy, rivalry, resentment, gossip,
character assassination, slander, complaining, confrontations, quarrels,
assertiveness, heated debates,

. . . chafing, trickery, grudging, stonewalling, bitterness, silent treatments,
revenge, stubbornness, cold shouldering, snobbery, egotism, dominance,
demeaning comments, pecking orders, gangs, arrogance, attitudes, subterfuge,
treachery, betrayal, suspicion, conceit, vanity, superiority complexes, depression,
melancholy, antisocial behaviors, sociopaths, toxic rejoinders, smart-Alek retorts,
snide remarks, and quite possibly violence and brutality so cruel and so terrible
that if it were possible to die from it; they would.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 1,287 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 96,678,153 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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shroom said:
The wicked will indeed suffer for a time in the lake of fire. But I hope you won't be disappointed when they die, and are no more. The wages of sin is death, not eternal conscience torment.


Nobody has "checked into the first sector of Hades" yet.
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That is not what the Scriptures say.

Rev 14:
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
 
leonard03782 said:
That is not what the Scriptures say.
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Yes it is. The wages if sin is death, not immortality.

leonard03782 said:
Rev 14:
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
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"Forever and ever" = "to ages of ages." IOW, the very wicked may indeed suffer for a long time, but they'll eventually be "cut off," ie: dead.
 
shroom said:
Yes it is. The wages if sin is death, not immortality.


"Forever and ever" = "to ages of ages." IOW, the very wicked may indeed suffer for a long time, but they'll eventually be "cut off," ie: dead.
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They will certainly wish they were dead! Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell!

Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 
Jack said:
They will certainly wish they were dead!
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They won't "wish." They won't do anything. They will be dead.

Jack said:
Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell!

Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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Previously addressed.
 
Jack said:
They will certainly wish they were dead! Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell!

Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
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Hell will be filled with many people who the k they're saved.
 
shroom said:
They won't "wish." They won't do anything. They will be dead.
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That's a lie of Satan.

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
shroom said:
Previously addressed.
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You mean dismissed.
 
Jack said:
And YOU will be held accountable for everyone you lead to Hell fire!
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It's so good to see you, Jack! :)

Boy, with you on the scene, us poor heretics don't stand a chance... :rolleyes:

Just be aware that we'll ALL give account for the things done in the body, whether good or evil (2 Cor 5:10).
This includes you.
 
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