Hell's Daily Body Count

Dant01

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I know of the Protestant pastor who was asked by Audie Murphy's widow Pamela to
speak at her husband's funeral. Audie Murphy, as you may already know, was a
32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner; but he wasn't a Christian.

In amazement, the pastor asked Mrs. Murphy why she chose a Christian to speak at
her husband's funeral.

Although Audie himself wasn't a Christian, Pamela was; and she explained that the
Hollywood crowd would be there the day of his funeral, and having hob-nobbed
with them during her husband's acting career, she was fully aware that many of
them were rarely confronted with something serious about the afterlife.

Well; they got both barrels that day, and were very annoyed because they were
expecting the usual sappy, feel-good rhetoric to which pampered celebrities are
accustomed.

Some may feel that Hell isn't an appropriate topic at a funeral. But I think that,
other than Xmas and Easter, you couldn't pick a better time to bring it up.

Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of
gaiety, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this seriously.

According to the Bible; not many great people are called (1Cor 1:26). If that's true,
then we have to expect that the majority of the world's best and brightest
achievers-- the really big names in sports, science, medicine, law, government,
technology, business, industry, religion, entertainment, and education, etc --don't,
and won't, make it to safety when they pass on.

As I watched some of the splendor and pomp of President Gerald Ford's funeral
back in January of 2007, I couldn't help but wonder if he was in a position to really
appreciate it; as I suspect people in Hell would certainly no longer really care
anymore whether they were given an unknown pauper's disposal in a City
incinerator, or reverently placed in a grand tomb in the National Cemetery with
world-wide television coverage.


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 200 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 15,023,800 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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In the story told at Luke 16-19-31, a beggar named Lazarus died and was carried
by the angels to an afterlife place of comfort.

A rich man in the story died too, and ends up in a place of discomfort. It's curious
that the rich man's transportation isn't specified.

One of the most disturbing scenes I've yet to observe in a Hollywood movie occurs
in "GHOST" starring Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore. When someone marked for
the rich man's destination passes away, these eerie phantoms emerge, uttering
awful moans, and drag their panic-stricken prey down into the ground.

I don't know if that's how the rich man was transported, but if so; I can well
imagine just how shocking and terrifying it was for him at death to of a sudden be
able to see menacing spirit creatures surrounding him with looks on their faces that
could only convey but one unmistakable intent.


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 203 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 15,249,157 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Gen 3:5 . . God knows well that when you eat of [the tree of the knowledge of
good and evil] your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods, who know good
and evil.

Was the Serpent's prediction true? Yes; to a certain extent.

Gen 3:22 . .Then the Lord God said: See, the man has become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Apparently human life was created minus intuitive moral values; which is likely the
reason why some expositors refer to the time before the forbidden fruit incident as
the age of innocence.


FAQ: Did Adam know it was wrong to taste the forbidden fruit? And if so, how did
he know it was wrong without an intuitive sense of right and wrong?


A: Right and wrong were irrelevant in the beginning. Adam's early life was
governed by Big Brother oversight. In other words: God's sovereignty served as
Adam's conscience, i.e. it wasn't incumbent upon Adam to make those kinds of
judgments. (cf. Acts 10:9-15)


NOTE: A Big Brother society isn't necessarily a bad form of government just so long
as its bosses are good people; but when unscrupulous monsters like North Korea's
Kim Jong-Un have the reins, then Big Brother societies are a hell on earth.

Isa 48:17 . . I am the Lord your God, who teaches you what is good and leads
you along the paths you should follow.


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 206 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 15,474,514new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Gen 3:6-7 . . She took of its fruit and ate. She also gave some to her husband,
and he ate. Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they perceived that
they were naked; and they sewed together fig leaves and made themselves
loincloths.

Gen 3:11 . .He asked: Who told you that you were naked?

In other words: who said nudity is indecent? Where'd you get that idea?

Well; nobody had said nudity is indecent, nor even suggested that it's indecent--
the concept of a dress code was unheard of at that time. No; Adam just "felt"
indecent. In other words; all of a sudden Adam's intuition was telling him that his
appearance was unacceptable.


FAQ: If not from God, then whence did the first couple obtain an intuitive sense of
propriety?


A: In the past, I was sure that the chemistry of the forbidden fruit had something
to do with the first couple's moral perception; but now I seriously doubt it because
the woman was the first to eat the fruit, and when she did, nothing happened. She
remained just as shameless in the buff as before. It wasn't till Adam tasted the
fruit that the woman began to feel exposed; so I'm pretty sure that the underlying
cause is far more serious than the chemistry of that fruit.

Ruling out the fruit, and ruling out God , then we're left with but one alternative:
the Serpent, a.k.a. the Devil (Rev 20:2)

He has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and ability to tamper with the human mind
and body in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment that
Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it takes effect.
Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both immediately set to work
cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to cover up their pelvic areas.


FAQ: Why wasn't the woman effected by the Serpent's power when she tasted the
forbidden fruit?


A: It was apparently God's decision that if sin and death were to come into the
world, they would come via a lone male's actions just as life and righteousness
would later be offered to the world via a lone male's actions. (Rom 5:12-21)


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 209 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 15,699,871new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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FAQ: Was Adam's disobedience a Hell-worthy transgression?

A: No.

According to Gen 2:17 it was a death-worthy transgression rather than Hell-worthy.
In other words; the proper penalty for Adam's mistake was simply his loss of
immortality. (cf. Gen 3:19 and Gen 3:22)


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 212 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 15,925,228 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Eph 2:2-3 . . As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which
you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the
kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. All
of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature
and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of
wrath.

It's believed by a pretty large percentage of modern Christians that the so-called
fallen nature spoken of in that Ephesians passage is inherited from one's biological
father. Oh? From whence did Eve get it?

She was constructed with material taken from Adam's body prior to the forbidden
fruit incident. Since himself tasted the fruit after Eve was born; then it was
impossible for Adam to pass the so-called fallen nature to her by means of
procreation.

The ruler of the kingdom of the air-- i.e. the spirit world --has the power of death
(Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human body and the human mind in
ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

I really have to hand it to the Serpent; he's very good at shifting blame away from
himself. For quite a few years now it's been traditional to believe biological fathers
propagate the fallen nature; when it's been the Serpent's handiwork all along.

How he has managed to deceive so many people for so long a time I don't know,
but what's really ironic about it is that there are people behind pulpits, and chairing
whole Sunday school departments, working with him as a sort of propaganda
machine of unsuspecting accomplices.


FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people. . . in the womb or out of the
womb?


A: Adam and his wife demonstrate that that the ruler of the spirit world can do his
dirty work on adults, but I'm guessing that for most of us, the tampering of our
minds and bodies takes place in the womb. (Ps 51:5 & 58:3)

When Jesus told his opponents that they were the Devil's offspring (John 8:44) he
wasn't just speaking in simile and/or metaphor; Jesus was speaking very close to
the fact of the matter.

"For you are the children of your father the Devil, and you love to do the evil
things he does."

There are Christians parroting that passage on and on, apparently oblivious to the
truth of Eph 2:2-3 that John 8:44 applies to the core of their own natural being just
the same as everybody else.


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 215 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 16,150,585 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Gen 4:8 . . Cain talked with Abel his brother; and when they were in the field,
Cain set upon his brother Abel and killed him.

The Hebrew word translated "killed" means to smite with deadly intent, i.e. murder.

Although murder is intrinsically a sin, God couldn't indict Cain for it because He
didn't officially prohibit homicide till after the Flood in the ninth chapter of Genesis;
and that was too late for use against Cain.

In other words: God doesn't enforce His laws ex post facto, i.e. they aren't
retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, Gal 3;17)


FAQ: God slammed people for their sins back in Cain's day, but not according to
law; and if not according to law, then on what basis?


A: According to Rom 2:12-15, God judges people on the basis of law and on the
basis of conscience; viz: although there was no law on the books prohibiting
murder back in Cain's day; his natural moral values told him that it was wrong.

Gen 3:22 . . And the Lord God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

When I look at mass murderers the likes of Russia's Bolsheviks and Joseph Stalin,
China's Mao Tse-tung, Cambodia's Pol Pot, Iraq's Saddam Hussein, Uganda's Idi
Amin, Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe, and North Korea's Kim Jong-Un; I am amazed
at their lack of conscience. It is very difficult for me to plumb the depths of their
degree of psychopathy.

The Bible says that they not only know within their own selves that murder is
wrong, but they also know within their own selves that it deserves retribution.
(Rom 1:32)


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 218 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 16,375,942 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Were my home completely free and clear of any and all obligations related to it, I
would keep the whole sale price-- minus real estate fees --were I to sell it.

However, I owe a balance on the credit line with our bank that's collateralized by
my home's equity value. So; were I to sell my home, the line of credit would be
paid off out of the sale before I would get any of it to use towards the purchase of
another home. In other words: my obligation to the bank has the priority.

With that thought in mind; consider a Jewish man who has undergone circumcision
the eighth day as required, and successfully completed Bar Mitzvah. From that
point on he is obligated to comply with the covenant that Moses' people agreed
upon with God on oath per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Now supposing that same Jewish man begins to have second thoughts about
Judaism and thinks maybe he would like to try something else. Well; he is not at
liberty to just up and walk away from the covenant; no, not when he is very likely
indebted to it via one or more of the curses listed at Lev 26:14-39, Deut 27:15-26,
and Deut 28:15-68. Those curses, just like my equity line, have to be fulfilled first
before he can even surmise himself free to transfer his affections to another
religion.

But that's not all. Even if that Jewish man managed to somehow settle accounts
with all his accrued curses, he still can't walk away from the covenant because his
association with it isn't something that can be canceled like membership in a trade
union or a civic club. No, membership in the covenant is permanent, i.e. it's for life.
(Deut 29:9-21)


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 221 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 16,601,299 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Continued from post No.108

So then, before a Jewish man can sever his commitment to the covenant that
Moses' people agreed upon with God on oath per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy; he must first meet two prerequisites.

1» Pay his debts to the covenant, i.e. fulfill any and all curses that he accrued in
accord with Lev 26:14-39, Deut 27:15-26, and Deut 28:15-68.

2» Undergo death. (Rom 7:1)

Christ's crucifixion satisfies the curses. (Isa 53:5-6)

However: in this hypothetical case; the man seeking release from the covenant is
wanting to take up a new religion. How's he to that when he's dead?

Well; I can't speak for other religions, but if our hypothetical Jewish man is
considering Christianity, then he's in luck because its lord and master has a solution
for problems exactly like his. in some mysterious way that I've yet to fully
understand; Christianity is a lethal religion, viz: Christ's followers are reckoned
joined with him during his death on the cross.

Rom 6:3-11 . . Don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus
were baptized into his death? . . For we know that our old self was crucified with
him

Gal 2:20 . . I am crucified with Christ

Col 3:2-3 . . Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For
you are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.


FAQ: What's to be done about the man's new curses?

A: The Christian religion doesn't slam Christ's followers with curses for non
compliance with God's commandments.

Rom 6:7 . . He that is dead is freed from sin.

2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself; not counting
their trespasses against them.

The Greek word translated "counting" is logizomai (log-id'-zom-ahee) which means
to take an inventory; i.e. an indictment.

John 5:24 . . I assure you: those who listen to my message, and believe in God
who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but
they have already passed from death into life.


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 224 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 16,826,656 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Dant01

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Gen 4:17 . .Then Cain's wife conceived and gave birth to a son, and they named
him Enoch. When Cain founded a city, he named it Enoch; after his son.

This is the first mother in the Bible who's entire posterity would become so evil that
God had to step in and destroy them all-- men and women, single people, married
people, parents, pregnant moms, infants, toddlers, preschoolers, teen-agers,
handicapped people, and senior citizens: none survived the Flood; and their pet
bunnies, ponies, hamsters, guinea pigs, gerbils, parakeets, puppies, and kitties all
drowned with them.

The city Mrs. Cain's husband founded was probably not the kind of city we're used
to thinking. The Hebrew word for it is from 'iyr (eer); which can indicate even a
mere encampment or post.

Whether Mrs. Cain and her baby boy actually lived in a permanent settlement is
doubtful since her husband self-banished himself to vagrancy and wandering (Gen
4:14). Enochville was very likely nothing more than a rudimentary village like the
towns in the Old West and the Klondike that grew up around rail heads and mining
camps. Some of those were little more than a village of tents, and that's probably
really all that Enochville amounted to: just a nomadic assembly of Mrs. Cain's clan
where they could pool their resources, and watch each other's back as they
wandered from place to place in the land of Nod searching for natural sustenance.

Mrs. Cain's side of the Adams family was characterized by technology, invention,
boasting, achievement, commerce, and violence. But not one word is recorded
concerning its association with, nor its interest in, Man's maker. Her entire
community was God-less and went on to be completely destroyed right down to the
last man, woman, and child in Noah's flood. Not one survives Mrs. Cain today.

On the pages of Scripture, Mrs. Cain's clan have nothing good to say about the
Bible's God; nor did they offer Him any presents, nor invite Him into their homes,
nor care how He might feel about anything. The Bible doesn't record even one
single incident of Mrs. Cain's village blessing God for His goodness; nor for His
mercy, nor for His providence. There is no record that any of them ever said even
one single prayer-- not even a simple lay-me-down-to-sleep kind of prayer. Every
one of the little kids in Enochville went to bed each night without the slightest
assurance that the God of creation cared at all for the well being of their little souls.

How many homes of American mothers right here in the modern USA reflect that
very same Cainish culture? The parents and the children are unthankful, irreverent,
impious, and secular; caring little or nothing for things of eternal value: moving
towards an inevitable head-on rendezvous with death and the hereafter, and totally
unprepared to meet their maker. Of them it can honestly be said that the hand that
rocks the cradle also spawns residents for the ovens of Hell.


BODY COUNT UPDATE: 227 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 17,052,013 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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