Hell's Daily Body Count

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It's easy to assume that only really bad people are in hell. But according to Matt
7:23-27, John 3:3-8, John 3:14-20, John 3:36, and Rev 20:11-15, anybody can be
there; both the good, the bad, and the not so bad-- bikers, bakers, lawyers,
welders, actors and actresses, housewives, bankers, heavy equipment operators,
loggers, convicts, celebrities, homeless bums, clergy, prostitutes, drug lords,
postmen, Presidents, Kings,

. . . statesmen, astronauts, school teachers, scientists, nurses, doctors, chemists,
machinists, carpenters, waiters, hotel managers, cops, judges, nuns, priests,
Popes, deacons, salesmen, Miss Americas, news anchors, weathermen, and
birdwatchers, et al --people from every walk, every career, every religion, every
culture, every language, every ethnic, every craft, and every status: they're all in
danger of the sum of all fears.

• Rev 20:12 . . I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and
books were opened.

Because when you strip away their gender, their titles, their distinctions, their
privileges, and their entitlements; and stand them before God naked; people are
only flesh and blood creatures-- naked apes, just human beings; and human beings
are intrinsically sinful beings whether inbred or bred to perfection.

• Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from childhood.

• Ps 58:3 . . Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are
wayward and speak lies.

• Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature objects of wrath.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 84 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 6,309,996 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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OBJECTION: Christ is compassionate and would never run an eternal torture mill for
his lost sheep.

RESPONSE: Christ doesn't have any lost sheep. All the sheep that God entrusted to
His son's care are safe and sound.

• John 10:9 . . I am the gate; whoever enters through me shall be saved.

Were Christ a so-so shepherd; then he wouldn't dare say "shall be" saved; no, he'd
have to tone it down a bit and say "can be" saved. That would leave him some
room for error. But when Christ says "shall be" he's claiming a 0.0% failure rate.

In addition, the Father's free will trumps the sheep's free will.

• John 6:39 . .This is the will of the one who sent me; that I should not lose
anything of what He gave me.

So then, were Christ to lose even one of the sheep, he would disappoint the one
who sent him. But Christ never fails to satisfy his Father's expectations.

• John 8:29 . .The one who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, because I
always do what is pleasing to Him.

Were Christ to lose even one of the sheep in his care, he wouldn't be able to say
that he "always" does what is pleasing to Him.

When people say that it's possible for Jesus to lose sheep; they are actually casting
a vote of no-confidence in his claim to be the good shepherd. In their mind's eye,
he's not an exceptional shepherd at all; he's just another run-of-the-mill cowpoke.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 87 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 6,535,353 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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FAQ: Isn't Judaism equally as useful as Christianity for sinners seeking God's
forgiveness? Isn't that the whole purpose of Yom Kippur, a.k.a. the Day of
Atonement?

A: Pinning one's hopes on the Day Of Atonement is futile. For one thing: there's no
one to perform the ritual seeing as how there is neither a Temple nor a fully
functioning Levitical priesthood on duty in Jerusalem at this time. In point of fact,
neither of those two essential elements of the Day of Atonement have been in
Jerusalem since 70 AD. But that's not the worst of it.

There is a special goat involved in Yom Kippur commonly called a scapegoat, which
Webster's defines as a person who is unfairly blamed for something that others
have done; in other words: a fall guy. But that does not quite accurately define
Yom Kippur's special goat. It's actually an escaping goat; viz: a fugitive; here's
why.

It's a biblical axiom that the soul that sins, it shall die, i.e. the wages of sin is death
(Ezek 18:20, Rom 6:23). Well; the special goat is allowed to live rather than
executed, so justice for the worshippers' sins remain pending; hanging over their
heads like a sword of Damocles.

NOTE: Leaving a goat out in a wilderness place to fend for itself isn't a death
sentence. No; far from it. Goats are survivors. They can get by in environments
that quite a few other species would find quite disagreeable. And though the Jews
were in a wilderness place during their wanderings, there was vegetation enough to
nourish the herds. (Ex 34:3)

Yom Kippur's purpose then, isn't to exonerate the people; rather, to remind the
people that although Yom Kippur's ritual sanitizes them sufficiently for wordship
purposes per Lev 16:30, their sins are still on the books, yet to be brought to
justice; which is doubtless the reason that Lev 16:29-31, Lev 16:31, Lev 23:27,
and Lev 23:32 does not allow them to be cheerful and/or feel good about
themselves on that day. It's actually a day to despise one's self, i.e. regard one's
self as loathsome and despicable.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 90 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 6,760,710 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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I know of the Protestant pastor who was asked by Audie Murphy's widow Pamela to
speak at her husband's funeral. Audie Murphy, as you may already know, was a
32nd degree Scottish Rite Mason and a Shriner; but he wasn't a Christian.

In amazement, the pastor asked Mrs. Murphy why she chose a Christian minister to
speak at her husband's funeral.

Although Audie himself wasn't a Christian, Pamela was; and she explained that the
Hollywood crowd would be there the day of his funeral, and having hob-nobbed
with them during her husband's acting career, she was fully aware that many of
them were rarely confronted with something serious about the afterlife.

Well; they got both barrels that day, and were very annoyed because they were
expecting the usual sappy, feel-good rhetoric to which pampered celebrities are
accustomed.

Some may feel that hell isn't an appropriate topic at a funeral. But I think that,
other than Xmas and Easter, you couldn't pick a better time to bring it up,
especially since Christ said that the majority ends up there.

• Ecc 7:2 . . It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of
gaiety, for death is the destiny of every man; the living should take this seriously.

According to the Bible; not many great people are called (1Cor 1:26). If that's true,
then we have to expect that the majority of the world's best and brightest
achievers-- the really big names in sports, science, medicine, law, politics,
technology, business, industry, religion, entertainment, and education, etc --don't,
and won't, make it to safety when they pass on.

As I watched some of the splendor and pomp of President Gerald Ford's funeral
back in January of 2007, I couldn't help but wonder if he was in a position to really
appreciate it; as I suspect people in Hell would certainly no longer really care
anymore whether they were given an unknown pauper's disposal in a City
incinerator, or reverently placed in a grand tomb in the National Cemetery with
world-wide television coverage.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 93 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 6,986,067 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Deut 27:26 . . Cursed be anyone who does not confirm the words of this law by
doing them.

One thing that must be emphasized is that the curse is irrevocable; so it's very
important to come to grips with it; and the sooner the better.

• Matt 5:18 . . For assuredly, I say to you: till heaven and earth pass away, not one
jot or one tittle will by any means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

In other words: whoever deserves that curse is absolutely certain to get it.

In point of fact, Deut 27:26 is grammatically present tense rather than future,
indicating that the curse is instant-- no delay and no waiting period. i.e. it's already
on the books hanging over people's heads like a guillotine just waiting for an officer
to give the executioner a signal to let go the rope keeping the blade in check.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 97 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 7,286,543 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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FAQ: Jer 32:33-35 and Deut 12:31 say that the Old Testament's God abhors
human sacrifices. How then can He approve of the New Testament's cross?

A: The Old Testament predicted human sacrifice; with God's full approval and
participation no less.

• Isa 53:6 . . The Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

• Isa 53:10 . . It was The Lord's will to crush him and cause him to suffer . . .The
Lord makes his life a guilt offering.

According to Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and Gal 3:17, the laws of God are
not retroactive. This is important because Jesus was designated, and scheduled, to
die on a cross to atone for the sins of the world prior to the voice of God creating
even a single atom for the current cosmos. (1Pet 1:18-21 & Rev 13:8)

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 100 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 7,511,900 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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FAQ: Can you cite an Old Testament example where God approved human
sacrifice?

A: Yes.

• Gen 22:1-2 . . Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham,
and said to him: Abraham! And he said: Here I am. And He said: Take now your
son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer
him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.

Did Abraham slay Isaac? No, but did Abraham offer Isaac? Yes.

• Gen 22:9 . .Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And
Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his
son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.

You see, once a gift dedicated to God is placed on an altar, it's a done deal--
whether the offering is dead or alive makes no difference. In point of fact, the letter
to Hebrews credits Abraham with offering his son in obedience to God's command.

• Heb 11:17 . . By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he
who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son

Had God disapproved human sacrifice, He would've stopped Abraham before Isaac
was laid on the altar.

NOTE: According to Gen 18:23-33, Abraham wasn't above challenging God's sense
of right and wrong. Had the old boy seriously believed that offering his son Isaac as
a burnt offering was wrong, he would've said something; in point of fact, he had
three days to think about it. (Gen 22:4)

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 103 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 7,737,257 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Ex 20:5 . . I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate
Me.

FAQ: How is that fair? holding children responsible for what their parents do?

A: Ex 20:5-- along with Ex 34:7, Num 14:18, and Deut 5:9 --is often construed to
mean that children are held responsible for their parents' sins; but that isn't it.
What we're looking at here is collateral damage. It is apparently God's prerogative
to get back at people by going after their posterity and/or the people they govern.

There's a horrific example of collateral damage located at Num 16:25-34.

Another is the Flood. No doubt quite a few underage children drowned in that event
due to their parents' decadence.

The same happened to the children in Sodom and Gomorrah.

Ham's punishment for humiliating his father Noah was a curse upon his son
Canaan.

During Moses' face-off with Pharaoh, God moved against the man's firstborn son
along with all those of his subjects.

There are times when God chooses to judge people by going after not only
themselves; but also the things that pertain to them; including, but not limited to,
their progeny. I don't quite understand the logic of that kind of justice-- it sounds
too much like the way that Kim Jong-Un rules North Korea--but then again I don't
try; I just go along with it, primarily because it's futile to protest God when it's a
foregone conclusion that you'll lose.

• Isa 45:9 . . Destruction is certain for those who argue with their creator. Does a
clay pot ever argue with its maker? Does the clay dispute with the one who shapes
it, saying: Stop, you are doing it wrong! Does the pot exclaim: How clumsy can you
be!

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 106 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 7,962,614 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Jonah 1:17 . . Jonah was in the belly of a fish for three days and three nights

FAQ: Was Jonah alive in the fish?

A: Yes. (Jonah 2:1)

FAQ: The whole time?

A: No.

At some point in his nautical adventure Jonah went to a place called sheol (Jonah
2:2) which he sited at the bottoms of the mountains. (Jonah 2:6)

Well; the bottoms of the mountains aren't located in the tummies of fish, no;
they're located down deep in the earth. So, the only way that Jonah could possibly
be at the bottoms of the mountains while in the belly of a fish at the same time was
for the man and his body to part company and go their separate ways.

Just before being cast ashore, Jonah prayed thus:

• Jonah 2:6 . .To the bottoms of the mountains I went down. As for the earth, its
bars were upon me for time indefinite. But out of the pit you proceeded to bring up
my life, O Jehovah my God.

The Hebrew word for "pit" in that verse is the very same word for pit in Ps 16:8-10;
which Acts 2:25-31 verifies is speaking of putrefaction. In other words: Jonah 2:6
tells of Jonah's resurrection. (There's reason to believe that Jonah was already dead
from drowning in the sea's depths before the fish showed up to swallow him.)

Christ underwent the very same afterlife experience as Jonah's. The only real
difference between the two was that Christ's grave was in a rock while Jonah's
grave was in a fish.

The key points in their experiences are that both were dead, both went to the
bottoms of the mountains while their corpse reposed in a grave, and both were
resurrected within three days and three nights. (Jonah 1:17, Matt 12:40)

FAQ: What does the story of Jonah have to do with hell?

A: It's widely believed that when people die they cease to exist. Well; were that
belief a fact; then Jesus would've ceased to exist when he passed away on the
cross. As a result: he would not have been resurrected back to life, instead, Jesus
would've been created back to life. Jonah's experience proves that Jesus continued
to exist out of body when he pass away; and if he and Jonah did, then everyone
else does too.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 109 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 8,187,971 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Ps 146:3-4 . . Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there
is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his
thoughts perish.

Some people honestly believe the passage above teaches that people cease to exist
when they pass away; but were their belief true, then Christ would've ceased to
exist when he passed away on the cross and in order to restore the Lord's body
back to life, it would've necessary to create him back to existence. No; I'm pretty
sure it's saying something very different. It's not talking about consciousness.
Here's a much better way to say it.

"When their breathing stops, they return to the earth, and in a moment all their
plans come to an end."

Consider all those people who perished in the World Trade Center, in the Japan and
Indonesia tsunamis, and the Haiti earthquake. None of them woke that day
planning on it being their last on earth. No, on the contrary; they had people to
see, places to go, and things to do: but before the day ended; whatever was on
their minds lost its importance-- their priorities went right out the window and
became no more significant than green cheese on the moon.

All their plans, their dreams, their schedules, their appointments, their schemes,
their problems, their aspirations, and their loves went right down the tubes as they
were suddenly confronted with a whole new reality to cope with.

While preparing for a new world tour, Michael Jackson died in his sleep. As a result;
his tour wrapped on the spot.

When my eldest nephew was paroled from prison; he quit drinking, and began
going to college with the goal towards becoming a counselor. For 2½ years all went
well. His parole officer was happy, and my nephew was on track and getting good
grades. His future looked assured. And then on the morning of Sept 25, 2015, he
dropped dead to the floor of natural causes. As a result; his college education, and
his hope to become a counselor, dropped dead to the floor right with him.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 112 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 8,413,328 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Here in America, even the worst among the worst have the right to a lawyer, and if
they can't afford one, the system will appoint a public defender for them.

But in hell; people are abandoned. For example: the names of Abraham and
Lazarus are given in Luke 16:19-31, but the rich man's name isn't given. He's a
forgotten man; but not me.

• Rom 8:33-34 . . Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen?
It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus who died? More than
that, who was raised to life; who is at the right hand of God and is also interceding
for us?

I will be represented before God and not stand alone; but that nameless rich
man? No.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 115 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 8,638,685 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Saturday, June 27, 2010, a 6-month-old baby girl was killed and her mother
seriously injured when the pair were struck by a falling tree branch in New York
City's Central Park Zoo. The girl's father was taking their picture near the sea lion
exhibit when a branch above them suddenly snapped off and fell.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007; nineteen year-old Ramiro Gonzalez was returning home to
Nyssa Oregon from a week-end honeymoon in northern California with his bride
Idalia asleep in the back seat when their 1997 Pontiac Grand Am hit a cow twenty
miles east of Burns. The Pontiac went off the road, through a fence, and burst into
flames. Idalia escaped with only minor injuries, but Ramiro died at the Ste. Charles
Medical Center in Bend the very next day.

Ramiro and his bride didn't get to live in a home of their own for even one single
minute of their marriage-- never had a baby, never joined the PTA, never saved for
college, never went to ballet lessons, nor to soccer or little league, never went on
family picnics, never took home movies and photos at Christmas, Easter, or
birthdays, never went to the beach and built sand castles --no, their entire future,
and all their dreams of family life, were shattered in an instant by a lame-brained
bovine; and Ramiro wasn't even 20 years old yet. He could've lived another fifty
years.

March 20, 2008; fifty-seven year old Judy Kay Zagorski, of Pigeon, Michigan, was
sitting in the front seat of her father's boat going 25 knots on the Atlantic Ocean
side of Vaca Key in Florida, when a Spotted Eagle Ray, with a wingspan of 5 to 6
feet; leaped up out of the water-- for who knows what reason --and collided with
Zagorski, knocking her backwards onto the deck of the boat. She died from the
impact. Judy's sister, standing next to her, wasn't injured.

On a November morning in 1998, Alan Pakula climbed into his Volvo station wagon
and began the 100-mile drive from Manhattan to his Long Island house. The
acclaimed movie director of Sophie's Choice, All The President's Men, and The
Pelican Brief, had made that trip countless times with no incident.

As the 70 year-old Pakula neared exit 49 on the Long Island Expressway just before
noon, the tires of a vehicle ahead of him flipped a 7-foot piece of steel rod into the
air. Within seconds, the rod shot through Pakula's windshield, smashing into his
forehead, killing him almost instantly.

Death often comes when people least expect it. As a rule, they don't usually get up
in the morning planning it to be their last day on earth. The 169,752 killed, and
127,294 listed as missing in more than eleven countries by the tsunami of 2004,
were taken by surprise, and given no warning it was to be their last day on earth.

The 2,829 people who perished in a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on
September 11, 2001, and the 189 who died in the Pentagon, didn't go in to work
expecting their lives to end before lunch that day. No, people's lives often end while
they still have obligations and commitments, aspirations, things to do, places to go,
and people to see; when a car accident, train wreck, act of nature, plane crash,
crime, heart attack, or stroke puts an abrupt end to every plan they ever made.

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010, a 7.0 earthquake struck Port au Prince Haiti right out of the
blue subsequently causing the loss of more than 200,000 lives. A similar act of
nature on March 11, 2011, left 25,000 dead and/or missing in Japan.

Okeechobee woman Dawn Johnston, 38, was killed Wednesday June 30, 2010 after
part of a portable toilet crashed through her car's windshield. Dawn was driving
south on SR 15 shortly after 11 a.m. when two portable toilets fell from the trailer
of a pickup truck traveling north,. The portable toilets shattered when they hit the
road, and a piece of one of them crashed through the woman's windshield, striking
her. Johnston's car then veered off the road and collided with a tree.

A rain-saturated hillside above the Stillaguamish River on the outskirts of the rural
town of Oso in the State of Washington gave way March 22, 2014 leaving behind a
current death toll of 41 souls. The landslide happened to suddenly and so rapidly
that nobody saw it coming and/or had the slightest chance of getting out of the
way. Listed among the dead and missing was a four-month old infant.

Freak incidents like those listed above can happen to anybody in the form of a stray
bullet from a drive-by, lightening strike, gas explosion, choking on a piece of meat,
electrocution, earthquake, a drunk driver, a fall in the bath tub; bricks dropped
from an overpass, a school shooting, or any number of out-of-the-blue surprises.

Because of the uncertainty of tomorrow, people need to start thinking about the
afterlife today, now, while they have the chance; rather than risk being caught off
guard by sudden death when there will be no time to think; and they find
themselves suddenly thrust into the unseen world quite unprepared.

• Ecc 9:12 . . No man knows when his hour will come: as fish are caught in a cruel
net, or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times that fall
unexpectedly upon them.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 118 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 8,894,042 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable.

However; though the body is perishable by any means, the soul is perishable only
by divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily simultaneous,
viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to give it either a thumb up
or a thumb down.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 121 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,089,399 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Mark 9:47-48 . . If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It is better to enter
the kingdom of God half blind than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell; where
the worm never dies and the fire never goes out.

The "hell" in that passage is a different Greek word than the "hell" of Luke 16:19-
31. That one is haides (hah'-dace) which is an afterlife sphere where all the dead
go; both the good dead and the bad dead regardless of age, race, color, gender or
religious preference. This word here in Mark is geena (gheh'-en-nah) which is
where only the bad dead will end up some day: likely the lake of brimstone
depicted at Rev 20:11-15

Anyway; Christ's instructions didn't reveal anything new. He simply reiterated
information that had already been released by an Old Testament prophet roughly
700 years before.

• Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to
another, all mankind will come and bow down before me-- speaks the Lord. And
they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against Me:
their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome
to all mankind.

That rather ghastly scene depicts a sort of tourist attraction similar to the La Brea
Tar Pits museum in Los Angeles where the remains of prehistoric creatures,
excavated from ancient asphalt deposits, are on display.

A worm that thrives in brimstone is pretty amazing, but not unreasonable. The 4
inch Pompeii worm lives in sea water temperatures of 176° Fahrenheit; hot enough
to kill salmonella and sanitize an egg. So I guess if God could create a worm like
the Pompeii, it shouldn't be too difficult for Him to create worms that like it even
warmer.

FAQ: The human body is organic. So then, how can it survive in flame as perpetual
nourishment for those worms?

A: The laws of nature are not absolute. They were created in the first chapter of
Genesis to control the behavior of created matter, and as such are easily
manipulated by the one who designed them.

For example: fire totally incinerated the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah but left
unscathed a desert shrub that Moses encountered in the Sinai outback while
tending his father-in-law's sheep. (Ex 3:1-3)

Compare Dan 3:8-27 where a blistering hot fire didn't even so much as singe the
clothing of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego while slaying the guards that threw
them in the furnace.

FAQ: Won't the worms eventually exhaust their food supply?

A: There are incidents in the Bible where small amounts of food stuffs were
miraculously multiplied. One example is 1Kgs 17:8-16 where a tiny bit of flour and
oil nourished Elijah and a widow woman, and her son, for a good many days during
a time of prolonged drought.

Another incident is at 2Kgs 4:1-7 where a certain widow's husband died and left her
deeply in debt. God multiplied her last pot of oil sufficiently to sell enough to pay off
her debts, thereby saving her two sons from slavery.

No; I'm pretty sure those worms won't need to worry about running out of human
remains with which to sustain themselves.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 125 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,389,875 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Ecc 1:2-4 . . Meaningless! Futile! complains the Teacher. Utterly meaningless!
Everything is meaningless. What does a man gain from all his labor at which he
toils under the sun? Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains
forever.

The earth is dumber than a spatula; yet easily outlives its human potentate whose
IQ is infinitely greater. Take for example the great granite monuments in Yosemite
Valley. Tourists to the valley come, and tourists to the valley go; and one day the
grim reaper catches up with those tourists and they're gone; yet Yosemite's great
stones abide decade after decade; century after century.

Most children born this day will be dead in 100 years; and Yosemite won't even
notice. Though a child born today may be intelligent enough to eventually
understand quantum mechanics and play classical guitar like Andrés Segovia; yet
Yosemite's sentinels-- stupid, mute, and uneducated --will easily outlast it.

• Ecc 2:15-16 . . I thought in my heart: The fate of the fool will overtake me also.
What then do I gain by being wise? I said in my heart: This is meaningless. For the
wise man, like the fool, will not be long remembered-- in days to come both will be
forgotten. Like the fool, the wise man too must die.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 128 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,615,232 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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Judas goats are trained for use in slaughterhouses and herd control. In stockyards,
they lead sheep to slaughter; and are also used to lead other animals to specific
pens and on to trucks. The term is a reference to the biblical traitor Judas Iscariot.

The phrase has also been used to describe goats utilized to locate feral goats
targeted for eradication. They're usually outfitted with a transmitter, painted in red
and then released. The goats then locate the remaining herds of feral goats,
allowing hunters with tracking devices to find and exterminate them. The red paint
marks the goat with the transmitter so the hunters know which one not to shoot.

You know what can be even worse than going to hell? Your own children following
you there: and they trusted you.

Here's a sort of cute story I heard once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it's
plausible.

A farmer went out to the barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to sneak a pull
from his liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he heard something behind
him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy coming towards him. In
amazement he asked the little guy how he ever managed to find his way out to the
barn in the dark. His son replied: It was easy; I walked in your footprints.

One can only imagine the anguish that parents in the netherworld must feel
knowing that they inadvertently raised their children in an ideology that led them
down a road to the infernal regions and all the while sincerely believing themselves
doing the right thing. In other words: they actually Judas-goated their children to
follow mom and dad down there. For some families, the only thing they have to
look forward to in the afterlife is a sad reunion in fire and despair.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 131 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,840,589 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Luke 16:25 . . Abraham said: Son, remember

I should think that one of the negative aspects of perdition is memory. How people
down there retain their memories sans the brain cells they left behind with their
corpse, I don't know; but they do, just as the rich man in that story is able to
experience thirst sans a flesh and blood tongue. Apparently God has some sort of
file transfer protocol that silicon valley has yet to discover.

The older one gets, the more memories they accumulate, and many of those
memories haunt us with terrible regret. However, people down below not only have
to cope with their bad memories, but also the good ones too, and I should think it's
remembering the good things they enjoyed in life that makes their situation only
worse in the heat.

If everybody was born and raised in an oven; and never once ventured out; that
would be the only life they've ever known, so they wouldn't have a clue what it's
like to really live. For them the old maxim "Ignorance is bliss" would certainly hold
true. For example: many of the people born and raised in North Korea sincerely
believe the entire world is no better off than they are.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 134 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 9,840,589 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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• Gen 6:5 . . God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that
every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

The thoughts of the heart are somewhat different than the thoughts that go
through the mind; and are often blocked out, viz: "repressed"; defined as a mental
process by which distressing thoughts, memories, or impulses that may give rise to
anxiety are excluded from consciousness and left to operate in the unconscious, i.e.
the subconscious which, in Freud's opinion, is a repository for socially unacceptable
ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic memories, and painful emotions.

• Matt 15:19 . . Out of the heart proceed evil thoughts

So then, it's not how your mind works that defines you, no, it's how your heart
works that really defines you; and a man's heart is easily capable of hoodwinking
his own consciousness.

• Jer 17:9 . .The human heart is most deceitful and desperately wicked. Who really
knows how bad it is?

God is able to peer into the heart's contents. That means He will be confronting
people with things about themselves that they suppressed and kept under wraps all
their lives; and that's why I sometimes say only a fool would take their chances
with God. They have no clue the extent of the psychological tsunami they're
walking into.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 137 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 10,291,303 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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There was a time when everyone went to the netherworld when they passed away:
Jesus too because when he passed away on the cross; Jesus didn't go up, rather,
he went down. (Matt 12:40, John 20:17, Acts 7:25-31)

When we take into consideration everybody who ever lived and died on this planet
beginning with Adam until the day when people started going to heaven; then we're
talking about a very large number of people. How did they all fit in the netherworld
without overcrowding?

Well; it's evident that people exist in the afterlife as spirits. (Heb 12:22-23, 1Pet
3:18-20)

The feral man of Mark 5:1-13 and Luke 8:26-33 was possessed by a community of
evil spirits who labeled themselves Legion. Webster's defines a legion as the
principal unit of the Roman army comprising 3,000 to 6,000 foot soldiers with
cavalry.

The legion of spirits that Christ exorcised from the man went out and possessed a
herd of about 2,000 swine. That's a pretty good example of how spirits take up no
room in the physical world; nor do they crowd each other. All 3,000-6,000 of those
spirits managed to fit inside the bodily cargo area of just that one man.

That being the case, then the netherworld need not be a void. People can exist
down there in solid rock because spirits don't need space, they just need a place.

NOTE: Any attempt to drill down to the heart of the Earth in search of the
netherworld would be futile because it isn't a physical world, rather, it's a spirit
world. Drillers could, and would, pass right through the very center of the
netherworld and still not find it.

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 140 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 10,516,660 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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OBJECTION: Classical Christianity's hell doesn't make sense that a supposedly
loving God would torment people in a fiery prison forever and ever.

RESPONSE: The human common sense is produced by a 3-pound lump of flabby
organic tissue; and not even all three of those pounds are devoted to cognitive
processes. On top of that, those three pounds are 60% fat. That fatty, flabby,
organic tissue can alter one's personality with little more than an aneurism or a
blow to the head.

Just how sensible can a fatty, flabby, organic sense really be compared to the sense
of a supernatural being with enough intelligence to invent, design, and construct a
fully functioning cosmos with all of its forms of life, matter, and energy? A fatty,
flabby, organic sense isn't even a dunce in comparison: it's a sub dunce; if even
that.

• 1Cor 3:20 . .The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are empty.

Well; that's certainly not a very flattering evaluation. It's as much as saying that, in
God's opinion, the smartest among humanity basically consists of air heads; and if
that's His evaluation of the best and brightest, then where does God rank those of
us whose IQ hovers between average and below?

BODY COUNT UPDATE: 143 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures
in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 10,742,017 new arrivals have
checked into the fiery sector of Hades since Feb 04, 2021.
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