Wow, that really turned it up a notch!Same here. After giving this more thought here is a better picture of what I was thinking.
Christians have always believed that God transcends time. Time is a creation of God which we, his creation, experience. Everything to God is PRESENT; there is no past, "present" or future. Everything that has happened, is happening or will happen, is ALL PRESENT to God.
Given that, it is difficult to talk about whether something presently exists, because we are referring to a dimension [time] which does not exist for God.
So my question to the chaplain was does heaven exist right now? I mean fully exist. Are we there In some spiritual form now? He said no.
Even a righteous man like King David, whom God called a man after His own heart, is not in Heaven. “For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:34). Jesus Christ confirmed this when He said, “No one has ascended into heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven” (John 3:13).
It's important to distinguish between the present heaven and the future heaven. The present heaven is where God is right now, and that is where we go the moment we die. We go into the presence of God, but that is not our eternal dwelling place. In John 14:2-3, Jesus said He is in that present heaven preparing a new place for us. Heaven, where God is, is already prepared, but Jesus is working on a new location for us.
The new heaven, that's what I'm talking about.
Interesting. I’m gonna have to chew on this a while. I’m keeping my learning cap on.