You really have not heard of John MacArthur?Didn’t know this. What denomination does he identify with, if any?
You really have not heard of John MacArthur?Didn’t know this. What denomination does he identify with, if any?
Nope, he doesn't as far as I can see. However, here is the official statement of faith for his church. A quick scan looks like it is fairly orthodox.I don't believe JM identifies as Baptist.
He would be a Calvinist Baptist based upon that!Nope, he doesn't as far as I can see. However, here is the official statement of faith for his church. A quick scan looks like it is fairly orthodox.
Proof?Maybe due to him being a great teacher of the word?
proof that Dr MacArthur is a great expounder of the words? Have you read His study bible notes, or watched him on YouTube, or listened to his radio messages?Proof?
He is like a calvin, Luther, Sproul, Spurgeon, as in gifted by the Lord to teach and preach, but not infallible in his theology!So, his being a "great teacher of the Word" is why people quote him like Scripture? I've heard and seen many men speak so. They don't equate to the Living Word--nor should they be quoted on an equal level.
I think I understand your point, but please answer me this question. Is JM, because he teaches the Bible well, to be revered? That's my point.
Personally, I'm not much impressed with JM. "Great expounder?" I don't think so. He's a good teacher, but has many errors in his teaching.
Thanks for the great talk!
Huh? @Theo1689 said Dr. MacArthur didn’t recognize himself as a Baptist, iirc. That’s why I asked him what denomination did he recognize with. Of course I’ve heard of him.You really have not heard of John MacArthur?
Learned that there were some prominent Dispy Covenant also in addition to Dr macArthur, such as J Oliver Buswell!Okay. Fair enough. He's unlike John, R.C, and Charles though. It's his desire to make reformed theology agree with dispensationalism that I just can't see. Christ is King, though, and I see your point.
He seems to be a Baptist by his stated theology!Huh? @Theo1689 said Dr. MacArthur didn’t recognize himself as a Baptist, iirc. That’s why I asked him what denomination did he recognize with. Of course I’ve heard of him.
Makes no sense to me.Learned that there were some prominent Dispy Covenant also in addition to Dr macArthur, such as J Oliver Buswell!
Therer have been some who hold to Covenant viewpoint of salvation, the TULIP, but also held to how Dispy see eschatology, the future eventsMakes no sense to me.
Sorry as much as I would like to speak up... but since I'm only a lowly "Reformed Jesus freak" I shall forever hold my peace. Naw I'm going for it what we talking about anyway?Where are all the Reformed Baptist folk at?
#SpeakUp
I'm taller and better looking like King Saul. But then Reformed Jesus freaks we got it like that.“How do you differ from other reformed people?“
Not to worry you'll see your old friend RC in heaven. You know what his wife called him? Docie. Although RC said at times she didn't exactly pronounce it that way. Think stubborn with long ears.“What makes a person a Reformed Baptist?“
I would say it’s holding to the 1677/1689 LBCoF. But I’m sure there’s some disagreement in that, as I don’t believe the papacy en toto is the anti-Christ.
“How do you differ from other reformed people?“
I do not agree with paedobtism, but I don’t get bent out of shape, seeing they don’t see it as salvific as the RCC does.
“Does any Baptist agree with (or even tolerate) pedobaptism?“
I‘d say they don’t agree with it(if they did, they’d be Presbyterian) but most tolerate it. I felt like I lost a friend when Dr. R. C. Sproul passed away.
“What creeds do you adhere to/acknowledge?“
Three Forms of Unity
1689 Second LBCoF
Athanasian Creed
Apostle Creed
1646 WCoF(don’t agree with paedobaptism, but I won’t fall out over it)
“Are you the same as a plain ol' Baptist (lame question, but I hope you know what I mean)?“
Baptist covers a large area. There are differing views over soteriology, Christology, eschatology, I’d even say ecclesiology, &c. I’d just be considered a reformed Baptist who adheres to TULIP, lean towards Historic Premillennialism, and believe the local church members are the ones who control church(they are the ones who make decisions on how the church is governed, and the Pastor(s) lead the flock, but if he goes too far with his leadership, the church members have the authority to vote him out of his pastorate).
“To what extent do you agree with Lutherans?”
Don’t know enough about their beliefs to give an educated answer.
“Was John the Baptist the first of your denomination?”
He was also referred to as John the Baptizer, iirc. So, I’d say no.
“(Sorry, the last few questions were due to the fact that I ran out of questions at four, but had to keep asking to make it seven.)
That‘s okay. If you need further clarification, just let me know.![]()
Could be. Thing is, there will be plenty of Roman Catholics, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, Ariminians, Calvinists, Pentacostals, and any other well defined or fuzzy group you can think of in hell. In heaven, you will only find Christians, who may or may not have been a member of any group we name here. Getting too fixated on a denomination, other than as a shorthand for convenience, leads to Churchianity and the Bible has somewhat to say about the teachings of Scribes and Pharisees.He would be a Calvinist Baptist based upon that!
Maybe due to him being a great teacher of the word?
I loved his story about on how he first spoke there a message, went way over alotte dtime scheduled, like almost 2 hours, and thought the Board would thank him and send him packing, but asked him to stay on as lead pastor!He is indeed a great teacher. When I lived in California, I went to church there.
This is their doctrinal statement. It's completely reformed.
Doctrinal Statement | Grace Community Church (gracechurch.org)
I am very supportive of their decision not to be bullied by L.A. County for church services.
My church here is AZ has never closed.
Prove with Jesus Christ, everything from John MacArthur , especially if he starts judging believers as not a real or true Christian or not saved.Maybe due to him being a great teacher of the word?