What makes you think I do not know this just as well as you Steve?
Because you keep beating the same old dead horse over and over and over and over and over and over......again as though you have stumbled upon the definitive proof that YHVH doesn't exist and his law is a man made law.
If you were as smart as you believe yourself to be, I'd have thought that you would have figured out by now that you don't actually possess the power or medical knowledge to bring dead horses back to life.
But, obviously you keep telling yourself you can.
I have no idea where you get that from.
Observations of your posts. ?
I pointed out that what you presented so far is the atheist view. That is to say, nothing in those links suggests or implies that God exists as far as I can see.
"As far as you can see...."
Wow??
Did it ever occur to you that this is exactly what the problem here is?
It's only as far as you can see.
They all discuss the slavery situation in the ANE as though God does not exist - that is the atheist view.
From your perspective.
I wasn't alive in the era when the law was written.
I just started reading Deuteronomy this week. Today I read chapter 4. In this chapter Moses stated
Deu 4:5-8 WEB 5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and ordinances, even as Yahweh my God commanded me, that you should do so in the middle of the land where you go in to possess it. 6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples who shall hear all these statutes and say, “Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.” 7 For what great nation is there that has a god so near to them as Yahweh our God is whenever we call on him? 8 What great nation is there that has statutes and ordinances so righteous as all this law which I set before you today?
In light of the atheist mindset, as expressed by you and others who are atheists, I find myself wondering why this statement was made, and then what about this situation in that era was different from the way people view things today which would cause them to think that YHVH's laws are not so good.
The surrounding cultures of the people in that era were entrenched in the worship of false gods, false beliefs, sexual immorality without restraint, child sacrifice on the arms of metallic idols that were built to place fires inside their metal bodies, resulting in cooking the children to death, while alive.
Their cultures had no regard for family fidelity, they were murderous, treated one another as little more than property, and could violate any laws/morals we view as important today.
I.e., they made ISIS of today look like kids playing games in the park.
So, considering that, I'm thinking that as much as you despise the bible and seek to claim that you have found definitive proof that YHVH doesn't exist, they were viewing the impact of YHVH's laws on Israel as a positive thing.
I.e., "hey! Look at them! They have a culture that is becoming increasingly successful, stable, they treat others in positive ways. They're not killing their kids to gain their God's favor. They're not cheating on their wives and......."
Surely you are not expecting me to prove that the atheist's believe there is no God?
Believe? No. The stupidity I see in the posts of atheists have pretty much demonstrated that you don't BELIEVE...
I think it's imperative that you actually PROVE there is no God.
Because for people who are following Jesus, the Jewish people, muslims, and others who have a religious belief, belief and knowledge is a fundamental aspect of life.
For Jesus followers, the basis of our belief is that YHVH makes himself knowable to us through Jesus Christ.
For the Jewish people, the knowledge of God is given, but often ignored.
For Islam, they're taking a mixture of different ideas to validate the historical reconstruction of both Jewish and Christian beliefs.
Do you know what "atheist" actually means, Steve?
Eph 2:12 WEB that you were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
It's curious that in the Greek, the term- without God- is the Greek word, atheoi.
Your definition of atheist is a belief that God does not exist.
I think that is the inaccurate definition.
Cain, in Genesis 4 was a rather interesting character.
He knew God existed. Talked with God, and God talked with Cain to help him deal with his desire to actually enjoy the benefits of genuine worship, and knowledge of YHVH, and avoid the consequences of murdering his brother.
I am going to guess this is you equating atheist with communist.
No. Just acknowledging the history of atheist government. Communism is the result of atheism that governs.
It is strange how you so often derail your own thread. When are you going to explain why God allows slavery, Steve? That is what you said you would do.
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People who want nothing to do with YHVH will do whatever they feel is necessary to do so.
Including believing that living a moral life is good enough.
You can believe whatever you want. Only Jesus himself is able to give us eternal life.
Just looking through your first two posts, and it seems you are guilty of doing just the same.
And?
You seem to think that nobody else is guilty of sin.
I've repeatedly violated all 10 of YHVH's commandments. It's exactly why I keep coming to Jesus. I know he's the only one who has what we humans need.
My excuse is I was responding to posts about slavery 3500 years ago. What is yours?
No need for excuses.
God is just and the justifier of all who believe in Jesus.
Rom 3:26 WEB to demonstrate his righteousness at this present time, that he might himself be just and the justifier of him who has faith in Jesus.
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