House Tops

[Buzzard]

altho this message is for the Whole World,
see Jeremiah; The Prophet to the Nations

Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee,
and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

6 Then said I,
Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.

7 But the Lord said unto me,
Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee,
and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.
8 Be not afraid of their faces:
for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the Lord.

9 Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth.
And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms,
to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It must go 1st too the Tribe of Levi, then too The Tribe of Judah (Judicial = Lawyers = Government) ,
then too the Nation as a whole = the 10 lost tribes

"woe unto you Lawyers; for ye shall receive the DOUBLE DAMNATION"
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

------------------------The House Tops Message ------------------------
Isaiah 29:15
Woe unto them that seek deep
to hide their counsel from the LORD,
and their works are in the dark,
and they say, Who seeth us?
and who knoweth us?

There is a message to come just prior to the destruction of
Present Day Sodom and Gomorrah

Lot, as he was being dragged; kickin and screamin, out of Sodom, by the angels
pleaded to be allowed to dwell in some smaller city,
and was suffered to do so, even if it was not the will of God

Genesis 19:20
Lot Pleads to dwell in Zoar
.. I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one:
Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

But this city; Zoar, which Lot fled to was destroyed a very short time later;
let that be a lesson to those coming out of Present Day Sodom and Gomorrah
don't stop at some smaller Sodom, and risk getting destroyed anyway;
come alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way out, not just Part Way

as the sister cities of Sodom were destroyed also,
so shall the sisters of Modern Day Sodom suffer the same fate as their mother

And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain,
that God remembered Abraham,
and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow,
when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
And Lot went up out of (left) Zoar,
and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him;
for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave,
he and his two daughters.

It was from that incestuous coupling when Lot was drunk
we get the
And the firstborn said unto the younger,
Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth
to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine,
and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and
.....................
Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

and it is from that incestuous coupling when Lot was Drunk
we get these Moabites and his Brother Ammonites
that still dwell amongest us today

37 And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab:
the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi:
the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.


Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities roundabout them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,
are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ezekiel 8:7
And he brought me to the door of the court;
and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me,
Son of man, dig now in the wall:
and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9 And he said unto me,
Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

Isaiah 29:15
Woe unto them that seek deep
to hide their counsel from the LORD,
and their works are in the dark,
and they say, Who seeth us?
and who knoweth us?

Who seeth?
and who knoweth?

well Christ knoweth, and a few hand picked men,
----- The Men on the Housetops ----
chosen especially for that time too come
well equipped for the task,
so refer to it as

------------------ The HouseTops Message ------------------------
And the Trump of God shall be heard thru out the Land


God has used Evil Men and Pagan Kings to accomplish his purposes
all thru the OT

When I posted this "The Trump of God" on BOTCW in 2003,
I had no idea it would be a man named Donald Trump
that would light the fuse, of the powder keg
that has been brewing in our Nation for years


Is. 47:3
Thy nakedness shall be uncovered,
yea, thy shame shall be seen:

Matt.10:26
.....for there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed
and hid, that shall not be known.

What I tell you in darkness,
that speak ye in light
and what ye hear in the ear,
that preach ye upon
the housetops.

Luke 12:3
For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed
neither hid, that shall not be known.

Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light
and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed upon
the housetops.

Matt.24:14
And this gospel {message} of the kingdom
shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;

• For a witness against them, not to convert them

and then shall the end come.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand)

Isaiah Ch. 66:

Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Let him which is
on the housetop
not come down to take any thing out of his house

Mark 13:13
And ye {these men on the HouseTops} shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:
but he that shall endure unto the end,
the same shall be saved.

But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not,
(let him that readeth understand,)
then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house,
neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

Now remember this HouseTops Message deals with
the Sodomites and the evil they have done
and they ain't gonna like it one bit

• And ye {these men on the HouseTops} shall be hated of all men

so expect a whole bunch of just plain pure sickening things
they have done and still do in secret too be revealed

Ezekiel 8:7
And he brought me to the door of the court;
and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me,
Son of man, dig now in the wall:
and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9 And he said unto me,
Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

and Ezekiel isn't even into the inter courts yet;
so expect things too come, be even worse

 

[jonathan_hili]

Congrats on such a long post.

 

[romishpopishorganist]

altho this message is for the Whole World,
see Jeremiah; The Prophet to the Nations

Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;
and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee,
and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

6 Then said I,
Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.

7 But the Lord said unto me,
Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee,
and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.
8 Be not afraid of their faces:
for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the Lord.

9 Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth.
And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms,
to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It must go 1st too the Tribe of Levi, then too The Tribe of Judah (Judicial = Lawyers = Government) ,
then too the Nation as a whole = the 10 lost tribes

"woe unto you Lawyers; for ye shall receive the DOUBLE DAMNATION"
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

------------------------The House Tops Message ------------------------
Isaiah 29:15
Woe unto them that seek deep
to hide their counsel from the LORD,
and their works are in the dark,
and they say, Who seeth us?
and who knoweth us?

There is a message to come just prior to the destruction of
Present Day Sodom and Gomorrah

Lot, as he was being dragged; kickin and screamin, out of Sodom, by the angels
pleaded to be allowed to dwell in some smaller city,
and was suffered to do so, even if it was not the will of God

Genesis 19:20
Lot Pleads to dwell in Zoar
.. I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one:
Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

But this city; Zoar, which Lot fled to was destroyed a very short time later;
let that be a lesson to those coming out of Present Day Sodom and Gomorrah
don't stop at some smaller Sodom, and risk getting destroyed anyway;
come alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way out, not just Part Way

as the sister cities of Sodom were destroyed also,
so shall the sisters of Modern Day Sodom suffer the same fate as their mother

And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain,
that God remembered Abraham,
and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow,
when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
And Lot went up out of (left) Zoar,
and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him;
for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave,
he and his two daughters.

It was from that incestuous coupling when Lot was drunk
we get the
And the firstborn said unto the younger,
Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth
to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine,
and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and
.....................
Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

and it is from that incestuous coupling when Lot was Drunk
we get these Moabites and his Brother Ammonites
that still dwell amongest us today

37 And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab:
the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi:
the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.


Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities roundabout them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,
are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ezekiel 8:7
And he brought me to the door of the court;
and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me,
Son of man, dig now in the wall:
and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9 And he said unto me,
Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

Isaiah 29:15
Woe unto them that seek deep
to hide their counsel from the LORD,
and their works are in the dark,
and they say, Who seeth us?
and who knoweth us?

Who seeth?
and who knoweth?

well Christ knoweth, and a few hand picked men,
----- The Men on the Housetops ----
chosen especially for that time too come
well equipped for the task,
so refer to it as

------------------ The HouseTops Message ------------------------
And the Trump of God shall be heard thru out the Land


God has used Evil Men and Pagan Kings to accomplish his purposes
all thru the OT

When I posted this "The Trump of God" on BOTCW in 2003,
I had no idea it would be a man named Donald Trump
that would light the fuse, of the powder keg
that has been brewing in our Nation for years


Is. 47:3
Thy nakedness shall be uncovered,
yea, thy shame shall be seen:

Matt.10:26
.....for there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed
and hid, that shall not be known.

What I tell you in darkness,
that speak ye in light
and what ye hear in the ear,
that preach ye upon
the housetops.

Luke 12:3
For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed
neither hid, that shall not be known.

Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light
and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed upon
the housetops.

Matt.24:14
And this gospel {message} of the kingdom
shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;

• For a witness against them, not to convert them

and then shall the end come.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth, let him understand)

Isaiah Ch. 66:

Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Let him which is
on the housetop
not come down to take any thing out of his house

Mark 13:13
And ye {these men on the HouseTops} shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:
but he that shall endure unto the end,
the same shall be saved.

But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not,
(let him that readeth understand,)
then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house,
neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

Now remember this HouseTops Message deals with
the Sodomites and the evil they have done
and they ain't gonna like it one bit

• And ye {these men on the HouseTops} shall be hated of all men

so expect a whole bunch of just plain pure sickening things
they have done and still do in secret too be revealed

Ezekiel 8:7
And he brought me to the door of the court;
and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.

8 Then said he unto me,
Son of man, dig now in the wall:
and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.

9 And he said unto me,
Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.

and Ezekiel isn't even into the inter courts yet;
so expect things too come, be even worse

You know----I don't really like lawyers much myself. I am glad to see that my dislike for lawyers has a biblical basis!

 

[Atemi]

You know----I don't really like lawyers much myself. I am glad to see that my dislike for lawyers has a biblical basis!

Interesting Roman Catholicism chose to drown itself in lawyers....inventing and arguing "canon law" which is the foundation of modern Roman Catholicism today.

 

[romishpopishorganist]

Interesting Roman Catholicism chose to drown itself in lawyers....inventing and arguing "canon law" which is the foundation of modern Roman Catholicism today.

"Canon Law" is essentially the corporate by-laws of the Church. The Catholic Church is a world-wide communion of believers of over 1 billion people.

Granted--if we were just some independent "Bible Church" somewhere, that just made things up based on the whims of the trustees, we would have no need of Canon law. But when you are dealing with a world wide communion of believers, united under a visible head, you obviously need to develop a formal system for how things should run and work.

 

[Buzzard]

Lk.11:52
Woe unto you, lawyers!
for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Thats just 1 of the Three Woes
and ye shall receive the Double Damnation
7 x 70 x 7

Lk.12
For there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed;
neither hid, that shall not be known.

3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light;
and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

"Canon Law" is essentially the corporate by-laws of the Church. The Catholic Church is a world-wide communion of believers of over 1 billion people.

Granted--if we were just some independent "Bible Church" somewhere, that just made things up based on the whims of the trustees, we would have no need of Canon law. But when you are dealing with a world wide communion of believers, united under a visible head, you obviously need to develop a formal system for how things should run and work.

Keep telling us how much "Wiser" the RCC is than Christ
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"
and they have a "Better Way" of doing things

But Jesus called them unto him, and said,
Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,
and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you:

 

[romishpopishorganist]

Lk.11:52
Woe unto you, lawyers!
for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Thats just 1 of the Three Woes
and ye shall receive the Double Damnation
7 x 70 x 7

Lk.12
For there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed;
neither hid, that shall not be known.

3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness
shall be heard in the light;
and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.



Keep telling us how much "Wiser" the RCC is than Christ
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"
and they have a "Better Way" of doing things

But Jesus called them unto him, and said,
Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,
and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you:

What does this have to do with Canon Law?

I mean--what? Does this passage mean churches are not allowed to have corporate bi-laws or those specially trained in making sure those laws are followed and rights are respected?

You are just like the Protestants who take "You replace the Word of God for your man-made traditions" and say "Because Jesus is some traditions that are man made, therefore Jesus is condemning ALL tradition."

One thing you Protestants are good at--is jumping to conclusions.

And by the way--my original remark about not liking lawyers was a joke.

 

[Buzzard]

Lk.11:52
Woe unto you, lawyers!
for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Thats just 1 of the Three Woes
and ye shall receive the Double Damnation
7 x 70 x 7

But Jesus called them unto him, and said,
Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,
and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you:

I didn't say it; he did

Proverbs 6:6
Go to the ant, thou sluggard;
consider her ways, and be wise:

7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,

What does this have to do with Canon Law?

I mean--what? Does this passage mean churches are not allowed to have corporate bi-laws or those specially trained in making sure those laws are followed and rights are respected?

I didn't say it; he did

Proverbs 6:6
Go to the ant, thou sluggard;
consider her ways, and be wise:

7 Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
Provideth her meat in the summer,
and gathereth her food in the harvest.


Ye know that the princes of the Gentilesexercise dominion over them,
and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you:

And by the way--my original remark about not liking lawyers was a joke.

You might have been joking ---
------ But -----
he wasn't
ie:
Lk.11:52
Woe unto you, lawyers!
for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered.

and ye shall receive the Double Damnation
7 x 70 x 7

OBTW
Thanks for letting us know that the RCC is not the Church of Christ nor the Apostles
Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them,
and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you:

but is the Church of the Gentiles

Rev.11:
for it is given unto the Gentiles:
and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

[Atemi]

"Canon Law" is essentially the corporate by-laws of the Church. The Catholic Church is a world-wide communion of believers of over 1 billion people.

Granted--if we were just some independent "Bible Church" somewhere, that just made things up based on the whims of the trustees, we would have no need of Canon law. But when you are dealing with a world wide communion of believers, united under a visible head, you obviously need to develop a formal system for how things should run and work.

Translation: tons and tons of lawyers...

Like the Pharisees.

 

[leonard03782]

Interesting Roman Catholicism chose to drown itself in lawyers....inventing and arguing "canon law" which is the foundation of modern Roman Catholicism today.

The rcc is the world's oldest bureaucracy. It has set the benchmark for corruption and immortality that the secular world can only dream of matching.

 

[mica]

"Canon Law" is essentially the corporate by-laws of the Church. The Catholic Church is a world-wide communion of believers of over 1 billion people.

who made up / determined and approved those CC by-laws?

that's a whole lot of catholics who follow the RCC, not God's word.

Granted--if we were just some independent "Bible Church" somewhere,

I don't know any believer that would accuse or classify the RCC as that. so don't worry about that happening.

that just made things up based on the whims of the trustees, we would have no need of Canon law.

on this one the RCC is right up there at the top of the list with the LDS, JWs and others.

But when you are dealing with a world wide communion of believers, united under a visible head, you obviously need to develop a formal system for how things should run and work.

the RCC doesn't need to worry about that... it's a communion of catholics, those who believe in and follow the RCC.

believers are united under 1 invisible Head - Christ. We have His canon to guide us - scripture. We also have the Holy Spirit - can't get a better teacher and guide than we have.

 

[mica]

Translation: tons and tons of lawyers...

Like the Pharisees.

I hope that rpo takes note of this. He's posted here that he isn't very fond of lawyers.

 

[leonard03782]

The rcc is the world's oldest bureaucracy. It has set the benchmark for corruption and immortality that the secular world can only dream of matching.

immorality

 

[romishpopishorganist]

who made up / determined and approved those CC by-laws?

The Church.

that's a whole lot of Catholics who follow the RCC, not God's word.

Actually most Catholics, myself included, know little about Canon Law. Canon Law is more for the bishops and how they run their dioceses and how parishes are run.

For the average Catholic, Canon Law is irrelevant--save when someone wants an annulment, or a parish is closing.

I don't know any believer that would accuse or classify the RCC as that. so don't worry about that happening.

Right; we are not some fly by night independent "Bible Church" founded on the whims of some disgruntled Protestant.

on this one the RCC is right up there at the top of the list with the LDS, JWs and others.

You cannot compare us with the LDS and JW's. It is an apples and oranges comparison. We worship Jesus Christ as God from God, light from light, true God from true God. We believe and profess the full equality of God the Son with God the Father. We are Monotheists. The LDS are not, nor are the JW's.

the RCC doesn't need to worry about that... it's a communion of Catholics, those who believe in and follow the RCC.

That is what I said: a world wide communion of believers. That is what the RCC is. The difference between the RCC and Protestants is that Catholics are united under a visible head, our church is a union. Protectants are not united. Protestants are divided.

believers are united under 1 invisible Head - Christ. We have His canon to guide us - scripture. We also have the Holy Spirit - can't get a better teacher and guide than we have.

Yes. I continue to ask you and you seem either unable or unwilling to answer the question: when two "believers" disagree on how Scripture is to be understood, how is that disagreement settled?

 

[mica]

The Church.

Actually most Catholics, myself included, know little about Canon Law. Canon Law is more for the bishops and how they run their dioceses and how parishes are run.

For the average Catholic, Canon Law is irrelevant--save when someone wants an annulment, or a parish is closing.

Right; we are not some fly by night independent "Bible Church" founded on the whims of some disgruntled Protestant.

the RCC sure isn't a 'bible church'. nCs on here have been saying that all along. catholicism is based on words of men.

You cannot compare us with the LDS and JW's. It is an apples and oranges comparison. We worship Jesus Christ as God from God, light from light, true God from true God. We believe and profess the full equality of God the Son with God the Father. We are Monotheists. The LDS are not, nor are the JW's.

I've already done that. catholics believe in and follow man, not God.

in words only - very few words.

That is what I said: a world wide communion of believers. That is what the RCC is. The difference between the RCC and Protestants is that Catholics are united under a visible head, our church is a union. Protectants are not united. Protestants are divided.

which is not what I said regarding catholics. Do you actually read what I post? ever?

Yes. I continue to ask you and you seem either unable or unwilling to answer the question: when two "believers" disagree on how Scripture is to be understood, how is that disagreement settled?

that very well could be so. a concise post would be good. there are other posts on the forum I want to read and reply to also, not just yours. This isn't a full time job for me... I spend a lot of time outside weeding, I don't want to do it inside also.

I'm sure I've answered that before. maybe to another poster. the way I read your question the reply is - it is settled by the truth found in scripture. but if you're meaning between a catholic and a believer that would be the same way for the believer but most likely not the catholic - the catholic would believe the ccc, a pope writing or those by an ecf instead of God's word.

 

[romishpopishorganist]

I'm sure I've answered that before. maybe to another poster. the way I read your question the reply is - it is settled by the truth found in scripture.

This is a non-answer. That is like saying "The way we settle legal debates between lawyers is by the truth found in the Constitution."

When the issue is exactly what Scripture says and how it is to be understood--saying "We settle the debate by the truth found in Scripture" settles nothing. Both believers believe they are following Scripture in their contrary opinions.

So want to try again with an actual answer, or do you want to keep giving me non-answers and calling them answers?

 

[Buzzard]

This is a non-answer. That is like saying "The way we settle legal debates between lawyers is by the truth found in the Constitution."

When the issue is exactly what Scripture says and how it is to be understood--saying "We settle the debate by the truth found in Scripture" settles nothing. Both believers believe they are following Scripture in their contrary opinions.

So want to try again with an actual answer, or do you want to keep giving me non-answers and calling them answers?

Deut 32:32
For their vine is of the vine of Sodom,
and of the fields of Gomorrah:
their grapes are grapes of gall,
their clusters are bitter:

33 Their wine is the poison of dragons,
and the cruel venom of asps.


romishpopishorganist;
Song of Solomon, romishpopishorganist; Song of Solomon
Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth,
where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon:
for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?

he answers

8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women,
go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock,
and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents.

If you do not know, romishpopishorganist;
then just do as you are told, and feed of the Briers, Brambles, Goldenrod,
the Tansy and Ragwort in the fields of Gomorrah with the shepherds Flocks
I've been told that "Mustards" make a great salad
and drink of that Mandrake Wine of Sodom

 

[mica]

This is a non-answer. That is like saying "The way we settle legal debates between lawyers is by the truth found in the Constitution."

knock knock... that does happen. SC

When the issue is exactly what Scripture says and how it is to be understood--saying "We settle the debate by the truth found in Scripture" settles nothing. Both believers believe they are following Scripture in their contrary opinions.

how do you know both are believers? if both actually are then they have some work / research of scripture to do and some praying to do.

did you answer my question asking if one of those you claim is a believer is a catholic?

So want to try again with an actual answer, or do you want to keep giving me non-answers and calling them answers?

it wasn't a non answer. just one you don't understand and / or believe and don't seem to want to do either of those.

 

[romishpopishorganist]

I'm sure I've answered that before. maybe to another poster. the way I read your question the reply is - it is settled by the truth found in scripture. but if you're meaning between a catholic and a believer that would be the same way for the believer but most likely not the catholic - the catholic would believe the ccc, a pope writing or those by an ecf

instead of God's word.

knock knock... that does happen. SCThen why the need for a court system? Why the need for judges? Why do judges and lawyers come to differing conclusions about what is or is not constitutional?

how do you know both are believers? if both actually are then they have some work / research of scripture to do and some praying to do.How do I know? We are presupposing that for the sake of argument.Suppose they did pray and suppose they did their research--and yet still come to different conclusions. That does happen. What then?

did you answer my question asking if one of those you claim is a believer is a catholic?For the sake of argument, we will assume that we are not talking about a Protestant and a Catholic here. For the sake of argument, we will suppose that we are talking two "Bible believing Christians." These "Bible Christians" attend a "Bible Church" with a good pastor who preaches "The Bible and nothing but the Bible." The name of the Church is "Pastor Bob's Bible Church." Pastor Bob has a sister named Sue who pastors "Pastor Sue's Church of the Bible." Pastor Sue has a friend who pastors "Friendship Church of the Bible and nothing but the Bible."

it wasn't a non answer. just one you don't understand and / or believe and don't seem to want to do either of those.I will grant it was an attempt at an answer. In that sense it was not a non-answer. It was a non-answer in the sense that it did not answer the question.