Theo1689
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Yet it’s the opposite of Christendom and scripture when it comes to the unbiblical systematic known as tulip .
hope this helps !!!
Worthless rhetoric is NEVER "helpful".
"Hope this helps !!!"
Yet it’s the opposite of Christendom and scripture when it comes to the unbiblical systematic known as tulip .
hope this helps !!!
this current earth is not where His Souls were ‘born.‘ God knew His souls before this ‘fallen creation.’Have no clue what messed up on my last post cannot edit or change. I am only giving the conclusions of what Calvinist have told me. Since Calvinist claim to have been elected before God created the heavens and earth exactly what did you believe before you were born, and who did you place your faith in before you were born and please provide scripture to validate your election before anything was created. Election based on God’s foreknowledge is biblical the Calvinist precision of election is not scriptural.
Worthless rhetoric is NEVER "helpful".
"Hope this helps !!!"
Do you have any scripture to support that souls existed before a child was conceived . Where in scripture does it say God knew souls before creation ? Adam did not have a soul until God breathed one into Him. Gen 2:7 - And the LORDGod formed man of the dustof the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.this current earth is not where His Souls were ‘born.‘ God knew His souls before this ‘fallen creation.’
Do you have any scripture to support that souls existed before a child was conceived . Where in scripture does it say God knew souls before creation ? Adam did not have a soul until God breathed one into Him. Gen 2:7 - And the LORDGod formed man of the dustof the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
a living soul is npsh. one undivided being, as we were before adam sinned. npsh means soul and body… one hebrew term.
the current situation is a soul (npsh) glued to a body (of dead matter)…
a chimera.
and, in that body (idol) separated from Him and paradise because of adam.
but that's not true... is it?
if everything is happening from God --
there must be a reason
if things are happening over and over --
to us / in front of us -- what is God saying?
the things in your life are not random?
what is God saying -- to you -- through
others... and by means of --
so - called rhetoric and beliefs (which maybe are "in part")?
Why would His spirit ever do anything apart from Him?
I don’t get what you are asking.
maybe the question was for the other poster…
I will stay with scripture:we were not here before eden fell…
this is Death , whereof God warned adam…
and where we came to be because of adam… separated from God.
the death is not just mental. it’s cosmological.
at rapture we will leave here….
and return to our eden paradise (new creation).
God declared His creation Good.
So yes He knew us before time (here)
and knows who of us are of Him…
He is our first love
but no that doesn’t mean
we have no choices or that God does everything,
the sons will rule with christ
* the passage you cited did not happen on this earth or involve material dust from this current earth.
Did you even read the verses ?
So the truth of the two verses are not relevant and untrue to you
because you believe they are meaningless
Nice dodge even though not true.
Jer. 1:4,5 (WEB)Some of them even think "foreknow" means God was in a relationship with us before we existed.
Isn't that an amazing trick.
His souls were Actually in Eden .
we are going back.
He knew us before this type of ‘fallen time’ started after adam.