How did Fauci know there was a pandemic coming?

[4Him]

Here is a PDF of the playbook.

So your great Fraudci didn't follow the playbook?

The pandemic was not such an obvious threat in January.

Fraudcis emails say otherwise.

If you think Fauci was wrong in downplaying the threat,

He was.

Trump was the one leading the pack with that claim.

He listened to that fool Fraudci.

While Fauci might have made missteps, calling him a fraud is quite a leap.

Nah, no leap at all.

He is a distinguished scientist with a long record of accomplishments recorded in his publication record, and he is a highly respected scientific administrator.

Paid fraud...shill.

They successfully swiftboated Kerry,

Lol....traitor.

Obama's sterling academic record at Harvard was challenged with falsehoods.

You mean the academic record no one can see?

 

[vibise]

So your great Fraudci didn't follow the playbook?



Fraudcis emails say otherwise.



He was.



He listened to that fool Fraudci.



Nah, no leap at all.



Paid fraud...shill.


Lol....traitor.



You mean the academic record no one can see?

That playbook provided details on a national response to a pandemic. Fauci is head of an institute at the NIH which is part of HHS. It was not his responsibility to put that playbook into action. It was Trump's responsibility.

Trump did not listen to Fauci. He admitted to Bob Woodward that he knew the virus was dangerous but liked to downplay it, and he continued to do that, making minimal attempts to act like he was doing something, travel bans being one of his longtime favorite responses to anything and everything.

RWers seem to think that if scientists are accomplished and productive enough to get paying jobs as scientists, then that makes them "shills". So if you don't trust working scientists about science, then who do you trust? Tucker or Hannity?, either one of whom makes way more than dozens and dozens of working scientists - does that make them shills?

Kerry put himself at risk for the country, and Cleland lost limbs, and both were trashed by the RW as traitors.

As for Obama, his academic accomplishments are clear from the fact that he was made Editor of the Harvard Law Review which is given to high achieving students, and the fact that he graduated magna cum laude, which is grade based.

 

[Magdalena]

There was in fact a playbook that was ignored by Trump.
Who were the medical experts accurately predicting that a half million Americans would die from covid? Trump was not listening to anyone giving him bad news like that.
And Trump did sideline Fauci because Fauci did not go along with Trump's insistence that this pandemic thing was no big deal. Trump instead listened to Scott Atlas who had no relevant experience in infectious diseases or epidemiology.

How did those “experts” know when the pandemic would happen and how many would die?

 

[Magdalena]

That playbook provided details on a national response to a pandemic. Fauci is head of an institute at the NIH which is part of HHS. It was not his responsibility to put that playbook into action. It was Trump's responsibility.

Trump did not listen to Fauci. He admitted to Bob Woodward that he knew the virus was dangerous but liked to downplay it, and he continued to do that, making minimal attempts to act like he was doing something, travel bans being one of his longtime favorite responses to anything and everything.

RWers seem to think that if scientists are accomplished and productive enough to get paying jobs as scientists, then that makes them "shills". So if you don't trust working scientists about science, then who do you trust? Tucker or Hannity?, either one of whom makes way more than dozens and dozens of working scientists - does that make them shills?

Kerry put himself at risk for the country, and Cleland lost limbs, and both were trashed by the RW as traitors.

As for Obama, his academic accomplishments are clear from the fact that he was made Editor of the Harvard Law Review which is given to high achieving students, and the fact that he graduated magna cum laude, which is grade based.

Obama was given a Nobel prize for doing nothing.

 

[4Him]

That playbook provided details on a national response to a pandemic.

Isn't that what we had? A national response?

Since I'm not reading through all those pages, why don't you tell us what Trump SHOULD have done, per the document you posted. Then lets compare it to what he did per Fraudcis advise.

BTW, how do you know Fauci didn't have to look over that 'playbook' to determine what should be done since Fraudci kept relying on the CDC advise, and the CDC is mentioned in that playbook.

Fauci is head of an institute at the NIH which is part of HHS. It was not his responsibility to put that playbook into action. It was Trump's responsibility.

Well, I'm gonna call that a load of crap. The entire US leftist population is infatuated with their god Fauci....who Trump listened to.
If there were a playbook that Trump didn't follow, they would be using that to bash him. They aren't.

We were all told to 'listen to the experts'....meaning Fauci and crew....Trump did just that.

Trump did not listen to Fauci.

Yes he did.

He admitted to Bob Woodward that he knew the virus was dangerous but liked to downplay it, and he continued to do that, making minimal attempts to act like he was doing something, travel bans being one of his longtime favorite responses to anything and everything.

You mean like Fraudci thinking that masked worked, but said unless you were symptomatic, DON'T wear one? Then admitted a few weeks later that he purposely said that so that there would be enough for the 'people that needed them'?

RWers seem to think that if scientists are accomplished and productive enough to get paying jobs as scientists, then that makes them "shills".

If you are a paid shill, then that's what you are....Fraudci is just that.

So if you don't trust working scientists about science, then who do you trust?

Not paid liars.

Tucker or Hannity?, either one of whom makes way more than dozens and dozens of working scientists - does that make them shills?

I don't watch FOX.

Kerry put himself at risk for the country,

Kerry is a traitor.

As for Obama, his academic accomplishments are clear from the fact that he was made Editor of the Harvard Law Review which is given to high achieving students, and the fact that he graduated magna cum laude, which is grade based.

His academic records are sealed from the public....and we all know why.

 

[Pizza Reverend]

His academic records are sealed from the public....and we all know why.

This is as usual a right wing lie.

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Fauci knew because he was involved in helping create it. He funded gain of function. After it was banned, he got it reinstated. He was up to his eyeballs in it. And he knew it was going to be unleashed on the world during Trump’s administration.

He was an insider? Co-conspirator?

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

We were all told to 'listen to the experts'....meaning Fauci and crew....Trump did just that.

The #1 Mantra "Just follow the science"

 

[4Him]

This is as usual a right wing lie.

https://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

That you cite a FB fact-check is laughable.

 

[Howie]

I would have gotten 2nd and 3rd opinions. Faux should have been terminated in March saying cruises are alright if you are young and healthy. That is gross negligence knowing these young healthy people could and died spread the disease.

I also would have went to the public, out of Ronald Reagan's playbook.

Trump handled the COVID situation better than any one else would have, or could have. He certainly handled it better than BarakO and Joe handled their H1N1 challenge.

 

[Faithoverbelief]

Trump handled the COVID situation better than any one else would have, or could have. He certainly handled it better than BarakO and Joe handled their H1N1 challenge.

Laughable. That is why the USA was the epicenter and worst hit of all countries. Trump is a pathetic loser.

 

[Howie]

Laughable. That is why the USA was the epicenter and worst hit of all countries. Trump is a pathetic loser.

You don't know what you're talking about. The worst hit places in the US were run by Democrats which is really what this argument is all about. 😉

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Trump handled the COVID situation better than any one else would have, or could have. He certainly handled it better than BarakO and Joe handled their H1N1 challenge.

Obama approved ethics of starting back with approval. Fauci had an agenda.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Laughable. That is why the USA was the epicenter and worst hit of all countries. Trump is a pathetic loser.

Since you are a distant epidemiology outsider, I will give you a medical answer in simple terms.

The worst of the worst was New York. Worst

In infectious diseases, the patient is placed in "isolation." In NY, Cuomo moved infected patients into nursing homes which had no cases. The well people are not put in isolation. America has millions and millions of cars, buses and subways and more population motion both domestic and international including trucking and shipping.
Even under lockdown the virus moves more since our humans and machines move more
America lost many cases because of political resistance to Therapeutics.

America has more unhealthy people. Average life expectancy is 78.6 years. Average age of person that passed away 78.6 years old.

I posted a year ago the physics on why dirty masks don't work and how dirty masks help spread. You blame President Trump for simple laws of physics you don't understand.

Another picture. We have thousands of chicken farms. Nearly zero bird flue. Farmers do NOT allow strangers into their barns and not even wild birds. So it is much more difficult for their virus to transfer.

The Chinese lost 1/3 of their pigs in the past 3 years and they do NOT have farming access restricted.

 

[Pizza Reverend]

That you cite a FB fact-check is laughable.

That you cite this at all is sad.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

You don't know what you're talking about. The worst hit places in the US were run by Democrats which is really what this argument is all about. 😉

Let's break that down. They also had more stringent rules, more restrictive lockdowns more movement of infected patients to clean nursing homes and more dirty masks in those states.
Vitamin D is another difference that Nordic states recognize and America mostly ignores.
Democrate governor tyrants really tried to do more and ended up with worse results.

 

[shnarkle]

He announced that Trump would face a ”surprise outbreak” during his administration. Almost like it was planned.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1400275062297665545

People need to stop acting like there's some conspiracy afoot. The fact is that Faux Chee is a prophet, and his medical recommendations should therefore be taken seriously. Since his prophecy came true, you can trust in him, and place your faith in his gene therapies.

Hundreds of millions of people have already placed their faith in his prognostications, and we know that they can't all be wrong.

Don't pay any attention to those VAERS statistics showing how many people are dying. If that was so important, someone would be pointing that stuff out to the public. What's five or ten thousand deaths in relation to a few hundred million, right?

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

People need to stop acting like there's some conspiracy afoot. The fact is that Faux Chee is a prophet, and his medical recommendations should therefore be taken seriously. Since his prophecy came true, you can trust in him, and place your faith in his gene therapies.

Hundreds of millions of people have already placed their faith in his prognostications, and we know that they can't all be wrong.

Don't pay any attention to those VAERS statistics showing how many people are dying. If that was so important, someone would be pointing that stuff out to the public. What's five or ten thousand deaths in relation to a few hundred million, right?

"Just follow the science"

10,000 deaths here and 10,000 deaths there and pretty soon we end us with some serious numbers.

The other symptom of ugly apathy was when Cuomo shipped infected patients into nursing homes where there was no infection.

$$our dough $

And Faux Chi praised NY.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

That you cite this at all is sad.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you. This must be a difficult time for you.

 

[shnarkle]

"Just follow the science"

Just follow their science because it will lead us to an infection free utopia of rainbows shining over a world in perfect health. Just a two or three jabs a year is going to make health insurance redundant; maybe four or five jabs; half a dozen; it doesn't really matter because we'll all be able to live forever.