The bible gives the example of the college of Apostles and the Council of Jerusalem with authority of the Holy Spirit, to determine such things.Does the Bible itself identify specific doctrines as fundamental?
The strongest words of condemnation used with the authority of the Holy Spirit in all of the NT are aimed specifically at false teachers who corrupt the Gospel, and It has been noted repeatedly on this Roman Catholic board. The Bible freely gives us a multitude of examples to use. The untainted Gospel message itself must be acknowledged as a primary point of fundamental doctrine.The bible gives the example of the college of Apostles and the Council of Jerusalem with authority of the Holy Spirit, to determine such things.
Likewise Peter points out to believers concerning some of Pauls letters...The strongest words of condemnation used with the authority of the Holy Spirit in all of the NT are aimed specifically at false teachers who corrupt the Gospel, and It has been noted repeatedly on this Roman Catholic board. The Bible freely gives us a multitude of examples to use. The untainted Gospel message itself must be acknowledged as a primary point of fundamental doctrine.
RayneBeau said:
The strongest words of condemnation used with the authority of the Holy Spirit in all of the NT are aimed specifically at false teachers who corrupt the Gospel, and It has been noted repeatedly on this Roman Catholic board. The Bible freely gives us a multitude of examples to use. The untainted Gospel message itself must be acknowledged as a primary point of fundamental doctrine.
and why did you post that in reply?Likewise Peter points out to believers concerning some of Pauls letters...
1 Pet 3 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Yes and Paul has strong words for the RCC, which teaches another gospel. Your institution breaks the commandments about adding to scripture etc. It teaches a false doctrine. Peter would not touch it, as it is the bad tree. You prove nothing and are unable to defend with your post, no surprise at all.Likewise Peter points out to believers concerning some of Pauls letters...
1 Pet 3 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Likewise Peter points out to believers concerning some of Pauls letters...
1 Pet 3 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Do you think that a doctrine must be regarded as fundamental if eternal life depends on it?The most fundamental beliefs are those found in the early creeds, such as the Apostle's Creed or the NIcene Creed, which express Catholic doctrine in an abbreviated form.
Creeds are not our inspired source of truth or doctrine. And by 'catholic' they would have meant universal not roman.The most fundamental beliefs are those found in the early creeds, such as the Apostle's Creed or the NIcene Creed, which express Catholic doctrine in an abbreviated form.
The early creeds are summaries, but they contain the most essential points of Catholic doctrine.Do you think that a doctrine must be regarded as fundamental if eternal life depends on it?
The early creeds such as the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed or the Athanasian Creed, were written more than a millennium before the first of your heretical Protestant sects began, so they are an expression of Catholic doctrine.Creeds are not our inspired source of truth or doctrine. And by 'catholic' they would have meant universal not roman.
The doctrine of there being a Church here on earth to guide and teach the faithful is a fundamental doctrine.Does the Bible itself identify specific doctrines as fundamental?
I'm not a protestant and my doctrines are in the bible. Yours aren't. And those creeds are catholic universal. Not catholic roman.The early creeds such as the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed or the Athanasian Creed, were written more than a millennium before the first of your heretical Protestant sects began, so they are an expression of Catholic doctrine.
Sure but its not salvific.The doctrine of there being a Church here on earth to guide and teach the faithful is a fundamental doctrine.
Come on, they don't matter. Will you never understand that Christianity started in the 16th century? What am I going to do with you??The early creeds such as the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed or the Athanasian Creed, were written more than a millennium before the first of your heretical Protestant sects began, so they are an expression of Catholic doctrine.
But not your one which is led by wolves and false teachers.The doctrine of there being a Church here on earth to guide and teach the faithful is a fundamental doctrine.
That is a false claim and shows your lack of understanding of what others believe.Come on, they don't matter. Will you never understand that Christianity started in the 16th century? What am I going to do with you??
So creeds have no purpose? What about mission statements? They also are not inspired sources of truth or doctrine, yet many (most?) churches feel the need to have one.Creeds are not our inspired source of truth or doctrine. And by 'catholic' they would have meant universal not roman.