How is a person made righteous before God?

Sethproton

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He told you already, Lol...
Ok good, you are claiming there is something that makes sense about his posts,
Do me a favor, explain to me what you think he is saying.
The verse said that man is for a while lower than the angels.
That means that humans are currently lower than angels
It also was a prophesy about jesus being lower for a while. That would mean He became a man for a little while.

What more is there to explain?
 
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guest1

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Any idea what it means that mankind is lower than the angels for a little while?
And also how that applies to Jesus?
The passage never said because Jesus is human that makes Him lower than the angels . This is just another thing you made up like everything else you believe to deny Jesus is a man.
 

Sethproton

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The passage never said because Jesus is human that makes Him lower than the angels . This is just another thing you made up like everything else you believe to deny Jesus is a man.
Psalm 8:4+5 is addressed to mankind and also is a prophecy of Christ. We are human, lower than angels for a little while.
Jesus like us, His time being lower than the angels, has passed.
 
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guest1

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Psalm 8:4+5 is addressed to mankind and also is a prophecy of Christ. We are human, lower than angels for a little while.
Jesus like us, His time being lower than the angels, has passed.
No God is talking about the creation of man being made lower that the angels yet God gave them dominion over creation not the angels who were higher in rank. Angels are ranked higher than msn hence they are “ lower” than the angels in rank.

But in nature , essence , being they are of more value to God since man in made in Gods image unlike the angels.

God redeemed man not angels . Since man has more worth /value than the higher ranking angels .

Your theology is horrific to say the least . It’s unreal how desperate you get inventing ways to deny Jesus eternal humanity .
 

Sethproton

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No God is talking about the creation of man being made lower that the angels yet God gave them dominion over creation not the angels who were higher in rank. Angels are ranked higher than msn hence they are “ lower” than the angels in rank.

But in nature , essence , being they are of more value to God since man in made in Gods image unlike the angels.

God redeemed man not angels . Since man has more worth /value than the higher ranking angels .

Your theology is horrific to say the least . It’s unreal how desperate you get inventing ways to deny Jesus eternal humanity .
Your post just denied that Psalm 8:4+5 was about Jesus. If you did not mean to do that, then what does it tell you about Jesus for a little while?
 

Theo1689

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Psalm 8:4+5 is addressed to mankind and also is a prophecy of Christ. We are human, lower than angels for a little while.
Jesus like us, His time being lower than the angels, has passed.

Where does that make ANY mention of "flesh" or "body"?
You are simply ASSUMING your view ("eisegesis"), not getting it from Scripture.
 

Sethproton

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Where does that make ANY mention of "flesh" or "body"?
You are simply ASSUMING your view ("eisegesis"), not getting it from Scripture.
Man has flesh, it says man is lower than the angels, Do you know of some man that is not flesh?
God became flesh and dwelt among us...for a little while
 
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guest1

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Your post just denied that Psalm 8:4+5 was about Jesus. If you did not mean to do that, then what does it tell you about Jesus for a little while?
No I didn’t I gave you the context of creation and it’s meaning .

next
 

Theo1689

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Man has flesh, it says man is lower than the angels, Do you know of some man that is not flesh?
God became flesh and dwelt among us...for a little while

<sigh>
You really don't understand that the above is 100% eisegesis?

How do you know that the "for a little while" refers to "God became flesh", rather than "dwelt among us"? You are arbitrarily ASSUMING your view.
 

Sethproton

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<sigh>
You really don't understand that the above is 100% eisegesis?

How do you know that the "for a little while" refers to "God became flesh", rather than "dwelt among us"? You are arbitrarily ASSUMING your view.
It does not say He dwelt with us for a little while. It says he was lower than the angels for a little while. That's how I know because of what is actually stated
 
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guest1

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Man has flesh, it says man is lower than the angels, Do you know of some man that is not flesh?
God became flesh and dwelt among us...for a little while
Lower in rank not essence , nature or being. Since man was created in Gods image and angels were not , man has more value to God and redeemed man and not angels .

hope this helps !!!
that would be his false christ
 

Sethproton

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Lower in rank not essence , nature or being. Since man was created in Gods image and angels were not , man has more value to God and redeemed man and not angels .

hope this helps !!!

that would be his false christ
that has the sound of making sense, but I imagine it is simply a catchword "rank not essence"
Explain what you mean by both.
What is rank? How was His rank changed according to scripture?
What is essence? What does that mean in reference to men, angels and God?
 

ReverendRV

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that has the sound of making sense, but I imagine it is simply a catchword "rank not essence"
Explain what you mean by both.
What is rank? How was His rank changed according to scripture?
What is essence? What does that mean in reference to men, angels and God?
I use the word "Station" instead of Rank...
 
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