preacher4truth
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Read 2 Timothy 2:8-10 the answer is right there but you'll most likely reject it because you won't like what it states, or, you'll twist it's plain teaching.SO why bother with evangelism???
Up to you...
Read 2 Timothy 2:8-10 the answer is right there but you'll most likely reject it because you won't like what it states, or, you'll twist it's plain teaching.SO why bother with evangelism???
The Gospel is Divine Power of GodI thought the Spirit of God drew men?
While you would like to deny what I said, what I said is compatible with the teaching of Calvinism and its application to the experience Calvinists witness to in their own lives.
Somewhere along the line in various debates throughout the centuries, some unlearned people began claiming the events are indistinguishable in time from one another in experience. That is utter nonsense and not compatible with Historical Calvinism.
That isn't what Calvinism teaches. Calvinism allows for regeneration to take place some time before any exposure to the Gospel.
There are examples in the Scriptures where a Calvinist would claim a person that is already born again, came seeking Jesus/His apostles to hear the Gospel. This is common biblical knowledge.
Where?I just did. Now admit you were wrong.
This is why false gospels don't save...The Gospel is Divine Power of God
The Holy Spirit is Divine Power of God
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
4 and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5 that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
18 For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to bring the Gentiles to obedience—by word and deed, 19 by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God—
2Co 13:4 For he was crucified in weakness, but lives by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but in dealing with you we will live with him by the power of God.
Your choosing not to sin shows that you are still walking in the flesh where all decisions are made.Not sure why you can't see that we are dead to sin in Romans 6, and that we can choose to sin and become a slave to sin again, or we can choose Jesus as our master and continue being free from sin.
You mean you had to think about it first and then you had to make a decision as to whether or not you wanted to believe?He spoke to me, and then I believed.
Yes, please!A Gospel Tract?
OF course!! I RESISTED it many times - before the last time.Do you think conviction coming from the throne room of God can be resisted...
PSST!! I'm not a "Sovereign gracer", OR a Calvinist. (Chuckle) and I was led into salvation by a fellow who'd never cracked the Bible in his life. all he could tell me was what he remembered about what HE was told the night before (that, along with the conviction of the Holy SPirit, led to HIS salvation). That, plus CONVICTION OF SIN and of judgement, was enough to get 'er done.Read 2 Timothy 2:8-10 the answer is right there but you'll most likely reject it because you won't like what it states, or, you'll twist it's plain teaching.
Up to you...
At least you admit that it is irresistible....OF course!! I RESISTED it many times - before the last time.
My will of course. No Question about that. OF course it was GOD'S WILL to give me the CHOICE, and the FAITH to "Get 'er done". SO a collaborative process to be sure.Tell me was it your will to get saved or was it God that willed that you be saved?
Nah- I doubt that otherwise you would have. If that conviction was irresistible you would have rejected Him regardless of the consequences.I COULD have blown Him off the last time too,
Just to clarify. You chose to have God reveal Himself to you?My will of course. No Question about that.
Admit it was irresistible ?At least you admit that it is irresistible....
2 Truly I know that it is so:
But how can a man be in the right before God?
3 If one wished to contend with him,
one could not answer him once in a thousand times.
4 He is wise in heart and mighty in strength
—who has hardened himself against him, and succeeded?—
Tell me was it your will to get saved or was it God that willed that you be saved?
OF course!! I RESISTED it many times - before the last time.Manfred said:
Do you think conviction coming from the throne room of God can be resisted...
Clarify what ?Just to clarify. You chose to have God reveal Himself to you?
His post wasn't directed at you. You're digging for a fight and quarreling so soon after your trip?Clarify what ?
Do you see anywhere he stated or hinted at any such thing ?
Did he?Admit it was irresistible ?
OF course!! I RESISTED it many times - before the last time.
He stated it was resisted
Yes, here:Clarify what ?
Do you see anywhere he stated or hinted at any such thing ?
His will to get saved is what He said. I therefore asked for clarification.
Except the question wasYes, here:
His will to get saved is what He said. I therefore asked for clarification.
What is your problem with my question btw?
Are you somehow suggesting he did not say it was his will to get saved, and not God's will to save him?
OF course!! I RESISTED it many times - before the last time.Manfred said:
Do you think conviction coming from the throne room of God can be resisted...
And my post was not directed to you.His post wasn't directed at you. You're digging for a fight and quarreling so soon after your trip?
Yep.