How is a person made righteous before God?

preacher4truth

Well-known member
Typical. It's like asking God how He can find fault if His will cannot be resisted...

Even when posting clear scripture that shows it, all you do is try and change the meaning of words.

You really have a bad theology where man is exalted above God for being able to thwart the will of God at every turn.
Exactly. It is a waste of time to engage him.
 
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TomFL

Guest
Exactly. It is a waste of time to engage him.
That is just an excuse to cover up the reality you cannot do so and defend your theology

and if scripture is reposted it is because it is being ignored and left unaddressed and substituted with rhetoric and distortion
 

Ladodgers6

Well-known member
I believe scripture is clear one is made righteous before God solely on the finished work of Christ. There is no condition on man. All conditions were placed on Jesus Christ, which He perfectly kept. There is no human willing, choosing, or asking. The Gospel is Good news because Jesus has completed everything necessary in order to make a person righteous before God.

Psalm 130
Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord!
2 O Lord, hear my voice!
Let your ears be attentive
to the voice of my pleas for mercy!
3 If you, O Lord, should mark iniquities,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness,
that you may be feared.
5 I wait for the Lord, my soul waits,
and in his word I hope;
6 my soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen for the morning,
more than watchmen for the morning.
7 O Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.
8 And he will redeem Israel
from all his iniquities.
The Westminster Confession of Faith




CHAPTER 11

Of Justification.

I. Those whom God effectually calleth he also freely justifieth;(a) not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by accounting and accepting their persons as righteous: not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ’s sake alone; nor by imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical obedience, to them as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Christ unto them,(b) they receiving and resting on him and his righteousness by faith: which faith they have not of themselves; it is the gift of God.(c)

a Rom. 8:30 ; Rom. 3:24 .
b Rom. 4:5-8; 2 Cor. 5:19,21; Rom. 3:22,24,25,27,28; Tit. 3:5,7; Eph. 1:7; Jer. 23:6; 1 Cor. 1:30,31; Rom. 5:17-19.
c Acts 10:43; Gal. 2:16; Phil. 3:19; Acts 13:38,39; Eph. 2:7,8.

II. Faith, thus receiving and resting on Christ and his righteousness, is the alone instrument of justification;(d) yet is it not alone in the person justified, but is ever accompanied with all other saving graces, and is no dead faith, but worketh by love.(e)

d John 1:12; Rom. 3:28; Rom. 5:1.
e Jam. 2:17,22,26; Gal. 5:6.

III. Christ, by his obedience and death, did fully discharge the debt of all those that are thus justified, and did make a proper, real, and full satisfaction to his Father’s justice in their behalf.(f) Yet, in as much as he was given by the Father for them,(g) and his obedience and satisfaction accepted in their stead,(h) and both freely, not for any thing in them; their justification is only of free grace;(i) that both the exact justice, and rich grace of God might be glorified in the justification of sinners.(k)

f Rom. 5:8-10,19; 1 Tim. 2:5,6; Heb. 10:10,14; Dan. 9:24,26; Isa. 53:4-6,10-12.
g Rom. 8:32.
h 2 Cor. 5:21; Matt. 3:17; Eph. 5:2.
i Rom. 3:24; Eph. 1:7.
k Rom. 3:26; Eph. 2:7.

IV. God did, from all eternity, decree to justify all the elect;(l) and Christ did, in the fulness of time, die for their sins, and rise again for their justification:(m) nevertheless they are not justified, until the Holy Spirit doth in due time actually apply Christ unto them.(n)

l Gal. 3:8; 1 Pet. 1:2,19,20; Rom. 8:30.
m Gal. 4:4; 1 Tim. 2:6; Rom. 4:25.
n Col. 1:21,22; Gal. 2:16; Tit. 3:3-7.

V. God doth continue to forgive the sins of those that are justified:(o) and although they can never fall from the state of justification,(p) yet they may by their sins fall under God’s fatherly displeasure, and not have the light of his countenance restored unto them, until they humble themselves, confess their sins, beg pardon, and renew their faith and repentance.(q)

o Matt. 6:12; 1 John 1:7,9; 1 John 2:1,2.
p Luke 22:32; John 10:28; Heb. 10:14.
q Ps. 89:31-33; Ps. 51:7-12; Ps. 32:5; Matt. 26:75; 1 Cor. 11:30,32; Luke 1:20.

VI. The justification of believers under the Old Testament was, in all these respects, one and the same with the justification of believers under the New Testament.(r)

r Gal. 3:9,13,14; Rom. 4:22-24; Heb. 13:8.​
 

Ladodgers6

Well-known member
I believe scripture is clear one is made righteous before God solely on the finished work of Christ. There is no condition on man. All conditions were placed on Jesus Christ, which He perfectly kept. There is no human willing, choosing, or asking. The Gospel is Good news because Jesus has completed everything necessary in order to make a person righteous before God.

Psalm 130
Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord!
2 O Lord, hear my voice!
Let your ears be attentive
to the voice of my pleas for mercy!
3 If you, O Lord, should mark iniquities,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness,
that you may be feared.
5 I wait for the Lord, my soul waits,
and in his word I hope;
6 my soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen for the morning,
more than watchmen for the morning.
7 O Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.
8 And he will redeem Israel
from all his iniquities.
And if I may add, Christ also took care of our Sanctification as well. When we receive the Gospel through Faith Alone apart from any works, we receive the whole Christ and ALL of His heavenly blessings as well. He left nothing undone! This is why the Gospel is called, "Good News," for the ungodly! It's all by Grace Alone! It's all Monergistic! Our faith is the fruit of the Spirit through the preaching of the Gospel, just as our good works as believers are the fruits through the same Gospel; meaning our union with Christ! And neither our Faith or Good works are the ground or root that caused our Redemption, that only lies in Christ who finished it at the Cross, through His Perfect Law-Keeping, suffering, Death & Resurrection for our Justification!

There is no Synergistic mechanism where sinners take part of the glory, here! This is all a Divine Act of Love by our Father in heaven who is rich in Mercy, Grace, and Love!
 
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TomFL

Guest
Typical. It's like asking God how He can find fault if His will cannot be resisted...

Even when posting clear scripture that shows it, all you do is try and change the meaning of words.

You really have a bad theology where man is exalted above God for being able to thwart the will of God at every turn.
Typical

you can't prove your theology so you ignore scripture which is contrary to your view and you distort

Defend your false statement

"You really have a bad theology where man is exalted above God for being able to thwart the will of God at every turn."

show where anyone has stated man is able to thwart the will of God at every turn

BTW Even Calvinists agree God has a permissive will which may be twarted in addition to a sovereign will which may not be twarted
 
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