preacher4truth
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Wow, cutting and pasting the same things, flooding the forum, and doing it over and over daily?
That isn't good behavior.
That isn't good behavior.
Exactly. It is a waste of time to engage him.Typical. It's like asking God how He can find fault if His will cannot be resisted...
Even when posting clear scripture that shows it, all you do is try and change the meaning of words.
You really have a bad theology where man is exalted above God for being able to thwart the will of God at every turn.
That is just an excuse to cover up the reality you cannot do so and defend your theologyExactly. It is a waste of time to engage him.
Feeding the trolls are sometimes hard to resist....Exactly. It is a waste of time to engage him.
It's like a car accident, you can't help but slow down and look.Feeding the trolls are sometimes hard to resist....
I am going to try hard to resist feeding this one.
I believe scripture is clear one is made righteous before God solely on the finished work of Christ. There is no condition on man. All conditions were placed on Jesus Christ, which He perfectly kept. There is no human willing, choosing, or asking. The Gospel is Good news because Jesus has completed everything necessary in order to make a person righteous before God.
Psalm 130
Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord!
2 O Lord, hear my voice!
Let your ears be attentive
to the voice of my pleas for mercy!
3 If you, O Lord, should mark iniquities,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness,
that you may be feared.
5 I wait for the Lord, my soul waits,
and in his word I hope;
6 my soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen for the morning,
more than watchmen for the morning.
7 O Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.
8 And he will redeem Israel
from all his iniquities.
CHAPTER 11
Of Justification.
I. Those whom God effectually calleth he also freely justifieth;(a) not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by accounting and accepting their persons as righteous: not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ’s sake alone; nor by imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical obedience, to them as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Christ unto them,(b) they receiving and resting on him and his righteousness by faith: which faith they have not of themselves; it is the gift of God.(c)
a Rom. 8:30 ; Rom. 3:24 .
b Rom. 4:5-8; 2 Cor. 5:19,21; Rom. 3:22,24,25,27,28; Tit. 3:5,7; Eph. 1:7; Jer. 23:6; 1 Cor. 1:30,31; Rom. 5:17-19.
c Acts 10:43; Gal. 2:16; Phil. 3:19; Acts 13:38,39; Eph. 2:7,8.
II. Faith, thus receiving and resting on Christ and his righteousness, is the alone instrument of justification;(d) yet is it not alone in the person justified, but is ever accompanied with all other saving graces, and is no dead faith, but worketh by love.(e)
d John 1:12; Rom. 3:28; Rom. 5:1.
e Jam. 2:17,22,26; Gal. 5:6.
III. Christ, by his obedience and death, did fully discharge the debt of all those that are thus justified, and did make a proper, real, and full satisfaction to his Father’s justice in their behalf.(f) Yet, in as much as he was given by the Father for them,(g) and his obedience and satisfaction accepted in their stead,(h) and both freely, not for any thing in them; their justification is only of free grace;(i) that both the exact justice, and rich grace of God might be glorified in the justification of sinners.(k)
f Rom. 5:8-10,19; 1 Tim. 2:5,6; Heb. 10:10,14; Dan. 9:24,26; Isa. 53:4-6,10-12.
g Rom. 8:32.
h 2 Cor. 5:21; Matt. 3:17; Eph. 5:2.
i Rom. 3:24; Eph. 1:7.
k Rom. 3:26; Eph. 2:7.
IV. God did, from all eternity, decree to justify all the elect;(l) and Christ did, in the fulness of time, die for their sins, and rise again for their justificationm) nevertheless they are not justified, until the Holy Spirit doth in due time actually apply Christ unto them.
l Gal. 3:8; 1 Pet. 1:2,19,20; Rom. 8:30.
m Gal. 4:4; 1 Tim. 2:6; Rom. 4:25.
n Col. 1:21,22; Gal. 2:16; Tit. 3:3-7.
V. God doth continue to forgive the sins of those that are justifiedo) and although they can never fall from the state of justification,(p) yet they may by their sins fall under God’s fatherly displeasure, and not have the light of his countenance restored unto them, until they humble themselves, confess their sins, beg pardon, and renew their faith and repentance.(q)
o Matt. 6:12; 1 John 1:7,9; 1 John 2:1,2.
p Luke 22:32; John 10:28; Heb. 10:14.
q Ps. 89:31-33; Ps. 51:7-12; Ps. 32:5; Matt. 26:75; 1 Cor. 11:30,32; Luke 1:20.
VI. The justification of believers under the Old Testament was, in all these respects, one and the same with the justification of believers under the New Testament.(r)
r Gal. 3:9,13,14; Rom. 4:22-24; Heb. 13:8.
I am not sure if you agree or disagree with the OP. I found some emojis in the Westminster Confession that you pasted.The Westminster Confession of Faith
Really, that's my fault, I'm dealing with a dislocated thumb right now. I totally agree with your OP.I am not sure if you agree or disagree with the OP. I found some emojis in the Westminster Confession that you pasted.
And if I may add, Christ also took care of our Sanctification as well. When we receive the Gospel through Faith Alone apart from any works, we receive the whole Christ and ALL of His heavenly blessings as well. He left nothing undone! This is why the Gospel is called, "Good News," for the ungodly! It's all by Grace Alone! It's all Monergistic! Our faith is the fruit of the Spirit through the preaching of the Gospel, just as our good works as believers are the fruits through the same Gospel; meaning our union with Christ! And neither our Faith or Good works are the ground or root that caused our Redemption, that only lies in Christ who finished it at the Cross, through His Perfect Law-Keeping, suffering, Death & Resurrection for our Justification!I believe scripture is clear one is made righteous before God solely on the finished work of Christ. There is no condition on man. All conditions were placed on Jesus Christ, which He perfectly kept. There is no human willing, choosing, or asking. The Gospel is Good news because Jesus has completed everything necessary in order to make a person righteous before God.
Psalm 130
Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord!
2 O Lord, hear my voice!
Let your ears be attentive
to the voice of my pleas for mercy!
3 If you, O Lord, should mark iniquities,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness,
that you may be feared.
5 I wait for the Lord, my soul waits,
and in his word I hope;
6 my soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen for the morning,
more than watchmen for the morning.
7 O Israel, hope in the Lord!
For with the Lord there is steadfast love,
and with him is plentiful redemption.
8 And he will redeem Israel
from all his iniquities.
TypicalTypical. It's like asking God how He can find fault if His will cannot be resisted...
Even when posting clear scripture that shows it, all you do is try and change the meaning of words.
You really have a bad theology where man is exalted above God for being able to thwart the will of God at every turn.