How is a person made righteous before God?

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Tercon

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ReverendRV said:
Does that mean it's a Self-Righteous Faith?
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Well if they believe their "faith" and belief originates in themselves and not in and with God, then their "faith" is "Self-Righteous" indeed. Because not even our belief and faith can we claim without believing in accordance with God.
 
PeanutGallery

PeanutGallery

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civic said:
Right so his own faith apart from Gods grace.
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You mean God's grace of creation testifying, law written in the heart, conscience bearing witness, Holy Spirit reproving, the gospel the power of God, sharper than a double-edge sword, piercing through the spirit and soul; you mean that grace?
 
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Tercon

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PeanutGallery said:
You mean God's grace of creation testifying, law written in the heart, conscience bearing witness, Holy Spirit reproving, the gospel the power of God, sharper than a double-edge sword, piercing through the spirit and soul; you mean that grace?
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Even His grace He administers by believing as He believes, because even our beliefs have to be in accordance with His. And if not, then it isn't His grace nor His faith that you have.
 
Bob Carabbio

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eternomade said:
I believe scripture is clear one is made righteous before God solely on the finished work of Christ. There is no condition on man. All conditions were placed on Jesus Christ, which He perfectly kept. There is no human willing, choosing, or asking.
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Sounds like you're teaching "UNIVERSALISM".
 
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Slyzr

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Tercon said:
Well if they believe their "faith" and belief originates in themselves and not in and with God, then their "faith" is "Self-Righteous" indeed. Because not even our belief and faith can we claim without believing in accordance with God.
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It doesn't mean that their faith is saving them.

More like there is not agreement.

How can two walk together unless they agree.

I mean, one can can beat the other and force them in chains.

But that is not really walking in agreement.
 
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ReverendRV

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eternomade said:
No. I believe the gospel is God reconciling to Himself a particular people according to His will. Definitely not universal. I believe in a particular atonement.
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He got my curiosity up. Maybe he meant it sounds like Universalism because it's all up to God despite ourselves; not that All will be Saved...
 
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Tercon

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Slyzr said:
It doesn't mean that their faith is saving them.

More like there is not agreement.
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Well if "there is not agreement" with "their faith" in believing that it originates in and with God or belief in accordance with God, then "their faith" must be of themselves and not God. Or in other words; they don't know how God is God.
 
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Slyzr

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Tercon said:
Well if "there is not agreement" with "their faith" in believing that it originates in and with God or belief in accordance with God, then "their faith" must be of themselves and not God. Or in other words; they don't know how God is God.
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I edited the post you responded to. #30

before I saw your reply.
 
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