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How is one saved, according to SDA?
How is one saved, according to SDA?
OT Version: AV Ex 32:32-33 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.How is one saved, according to SDA?
and ye shall be hated of all nation for my name sakeAV Mt 7:20-23 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity{G458 anomia}.
Your opinion is noted again ...and Michael goes into another Pharisaical Rant
and ye shall be hated of all nation for my name sake
Name Sake, Michael; His Name Sake
So is there a list of do's and don'ts for sabbath day in the sda denomination? What are the rules for sda denomination members to follow on their sabbath? If there are, where are the rules, do's and don'ts derived from?Prologue:
AV Hb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Your opinion is noted again ...
AV Hb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Jesus Christ in the flesh, is "the same yesterday" in walking on earth, "to day" walking in heaven "and forever" walking in Heaven in life eternal with all the saints.
AV Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:
You do realize, Jesus was, is and always will be a sabbath keeper, in "my holy day", Right ???
Yours in Christ, Michael
AV Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:What are the rules for sda denomination members to follow on their sabbath?
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AV Mt 7:20-23 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity{G458 anomia}.SDA's teach "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works" with a heavy emphasis on sabbath keeping.
Still waiting. But I understand if you don’t (can’t) answer my questions. I’ll try again.AV Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:
Until you figure out, who has a sabbath day, any discussion is moot with you.
Yours in Christ, Michael
AV Ezk 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.Still waiting. But I understand if you don’t (can’t) answer my questions. I’ll try again.
So is there a list of do's and don'ts for sabbath day in the sda denomination? What are the rules for sda denomination members to follow on their sabbath? If there are, where are the rules, do's and don'ts derived from?
Thank you Christian SDA;As a member of the SDA Church,
I pray this helps.
Prologue:
AV Ex 32:32-33 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. 33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Who wants to bet their salvation on, whether GOD keeps Their word or not ???
AV Mt 7:20-23 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity{G458 anomia}.
Does Jesus know what keeps Christians out of heaven ???
Do you ???
Can you explain what keeps Christians out of heaven, per Jesus' words above ???
AV 1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
You are aware, that sins are works too ???
Have you ever considered the most common Decalogue Law broken every week, as GOD's definition of sin ???
Yours in Christ, Michael
"If we follow exactly what the Bible specifies several times, the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week."As a member of the SDA Church, I find it helpful to know that the SDA leadership cares about the members enough to assist us in our sabbath keeping with a document on the SDA’s General Conference website called “sabbath guidelines”. ...
And Michael the Pharisee Rants again;You need to understand this as a contrast of authority, man has created an authority in keeping Sundays, against GOD's authority in keeping "my sabbaths".
Yours in Christ,Michael
Your opinion is noted again ...
Yours in Christ, Michael
So the religion of ellen just made up a sabbath with not set rules or do’s and don’ts. Got it.AV Ezk 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God.
GOD has "my sabbaths", AKA "the sabbath".
AV 2Ch 36:21 To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: [for] as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.
"the land" has "her sabbaths".
AV Lv 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
AV Lv 23:38 Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
AV Lv 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.
Then there are "a sabbath" as ceremonial sabbaths, which are "Beside the sabbaths of the LORD".
Until you can distinguish, the types of sabbath, and the ownership of those sabbaths rightly, it is still a moot point to talk to you about them.
In plain words, YOU NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE GOD'S authority in weekly "my sabbaths". Or otherwise prove, GOD is no longer the Creator of "my holy day" ??? Adventists do not own or have weekly sabbaths, only GOD does !!!
You need to understand this as a contrast of authority, man has created an authority in keeping Sundays, against GOD's authority in keeping "my sabbaths".
"So is there a list of do's and don'ts for sabbath day in the sda denomination?", You omitted the definite article for "sabbath day", like when GOD refers to "the" sabbath day with the misunderstand in "the sda denomination", which we do not own, but GOD does. Which includes the fact, neither does anyone else(like men on earth) own sabbath, just GOD. There are more than just Adventists, who keep GOD's "my sabbaths", you seemed to have omitted that from your Point Of View !!! And Yes, other than Adventists, do make their own rules.
"What are the rules for sda denomination members to follow on their sabbath?", There are no "the rules" in "sda denomination", per se. E.G. White gave suggestions, which you can read on your own.
"If there are, where are the rules, do's and don'ts derived from?", You should actually be concerned with the coming Sunday Laws("the rules") of men. The Great Cognitive Dissonance in spiritual understanding of GOD's rest in Jesus' example as Jesus walked the earth, and men making laws for GOD, in GOD's authority(in actuality stealing GOD's authority) !!!
Yours in Christ, Michael
So the religion of ellen’s sabbath is nothing like the Sabbath of the Bible. Got it. Thanks.As a member of the SDA Church, I find it helpful to know that the SDA leadership cares about the members enough to assist us in our sabbath keeping with a document on the SDA’s General Conference website called “sabbath guidelines”.
The local sda conferences also provide sunset calendars that list sunset times on Friday night and Saturday night for all the locations in the conference where we have churches. Also, the local church bulletins containing the order of Divine service and weekly announcements conveniently list sunset times for the current Saturday night and the next Friday night.
I pray this helps.