How to cut abortion rates.

[Authentic Nouveau]

Read what he says. Sometimes an abortion is performed to remove a foetus that has already died, thus saving the life of the mother. Your insistence on ALWAYS is therefore wrong. Now that I have educated you, perhaps you will apologise to him. Perhaps pigs might fly.

How many patients have you seen that had a miscarriage and didn't have cramps and go into labor?

Just give me a number.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

You didn't answer my question: Are babies people? Yes or no, and spare me the self righteous lectures.

When our baby daughter was delivered, she already had 6-7 million human oocytes. Unique element only known to female people.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Well I have heard that exact quote from a senior obstetrician in a radio interview.

Was it a kindergarten class? TUMMY? Lol

 

[Temujin]

How many patients have you seen that had a miscarriage and didn't have cramps and go into labor?

Just give me a number.

The exact same number as you.

 

[Temujin]

Was it a kindergarten class? TUMMY? Lol

Actually no. It was a serious political piece on Radio 4. But you highlight the salient point. "tummy" is clearly dumbing down to make the meaning clear to all. "Baby" is exactly the same.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Actually no. It was a serious political piece on Radio 4.

Must have had a bunch of retards as a target audience.

But you highlight the salient point. "tummy" is clearly dumbing down to make the meaning clear to all. "Baby" is exactly the same.

Except unborn babies are nurtured in the womb, not the stomach.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Must have had a bunch of retards as a target audience.


Except unborn babies are nurtured in the womb, not the stomach.

Notice the death kults don't go into hysteria when womb is used instead of uterus like they do when we say baby in English instead of fetus in Latin.

 

[Temujin]

Must have had a bunch of retards as a target audience.

Except unborn babies are nurtured in the womb, not the stomach.

Except that unborn babies is an oxymoron. It is the foetus that is nurtured in the uterus. "Foetus in the uterus" is accurate. "Baby in the tummy" is accessible and understood by all, including those with sufficient knowledge to recognise the inaccuracy and the intellect to understand the reason behind it.

The point of all this is that your medical practitioner saying "Baby in the tummy" does not prove that the foetus is a baby anymore than it proves that the stomach is the uterus.

 

[Temujin]

Notice the death kults don't go into hysteria when womb is used instead of uterus like they do when we say baby in English instead of fetus in Latin.

Possibly because foetus is an English word which does not mean baby. That's why we have two words.

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Babies are people. Foetuses are not.

Only a few posts ago you asked me for examples of your dishonesty. You may call my position self-righteous (an example of projection if ever I saw one.) I call your position dishonest.

Atheist labeling schemes

Let's see,

If we go into surgery,
Mother on table pregnant with her twin baby girls
Nurse anesthetist
Anesthesiologist
Circulating nurse
Scrub techs
OB DOC and resident
RN from newborn nursery. and her warmer which I always called the kiddy crisper.

All ready to deliver the baby and none mention fetus.

Why do you have problems with reality?

Not a single one abides by your outsider word games.

Too bad.
This is why we don't waste time with your political slants and mumbo jumbo.

Your world is depicted by the

Philadelphia DA calls abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell a 'monster' after he's sentenced to life in prison without parole​

He is a high profile killer who ran a dirty abortuary.

 

[Temujin]

Atheist labeling schemes

Let's see,

If we go into surgery,
Mother on table pregnant with her twin baby girls
Nurse anesthetist
Anesthesiologist
Circulating nurse
Scrub techs
OB DOC and resident
RN from newborn nursery. and her warmer which I always called the kiddy crisper.

All ready to deliver the baby and none mention fetus.

How would you know? You've never been there.

Why do you have problems with reality?

I'm fine with reality. Not least because I won't meet you there.

Your world is depicted by the

Philadelphia DA calls abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell a 'monster' after he's sentenced to life in prison without parole​

He is a high profile killer who ran a dirty abortuary.

Actually, this is a lie. I have stated my opposition to late abortion on several occasions, including in this thread. It seems that the pro-life brigade can only object to my position by lying about it. Which confirms to me, and any uncommitted lurkers, just how reasonable my position is as opposed to yours.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Except that unborn babies is an oxymoron.

Wrong. Babies who are not born yet are unborn babies.

The point of all this is that your medical practitioner saying "Baby in the tummy".......

No doctor says that.

 

[Temujin]

Wrong. Babies who are not born yet are unborn babies.



No doctor says that.

Liar. I have just given you an example of a doctor saying that. Once again, dishonesty to the fore.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Liar. I have just given you an example of a doctor saying that.

I don't believe you, liar.

 

[Temujin]

I don't believe you, liar.

Of course not. You dare not believe anything that destroys your preposterous position.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Or UK. Most of the G7 in fact.

indeed.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Never had a kid of your own, eh? If so, you'd know that obstetricians refer to the fetus in a sonogram as "your baby."

Only the one. And? I would also know that they tell you it is beautiful, no matter how ugly it is.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Then provide some.

You are making the claims. Its YOUR job

 

[Authentic Nouveau]

Wrong. Babies who are not born yet are unborn babies.



No doctor says that.

It is called a delivery room. The big word alert. There is no transition from non baby to baby. Just delivery from inside to outside.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

Of course not. You dare not believe anything that destroys your preposterous position.

Doctors call unborn babies babies. No doctor points to a sonogram and says "look at your fetus." And very few if any call the womb a tummy. Don't be asinine.