How to know that God exists.

Maybe that’s your problem. I rely upon myself to effectively communicate. I rely on those folks only to get my post from A to B.
Ah. So you're actually traveling to the recipients of your posts, and hand delivering them?
Strange. I haven't ever seen you show up at my door. Not once have I ever received a hard copy note from you, face to face.
So, we immediately know that you're lying here.
I'm reading your post, posted on an internet forum, with previously written software, and computing technology developed by others.
I'm having to trust that those parties who did all the work to bring us to the level of technological progress we're presently at actually achieved the goal that allows you to be correctly understood, based solely on your input.


I rely on others to create the ability for me to post. I don’t make them responsible for what I post.
No. You make them responsible for ensuring that what you post is accurately passed along.
In effect, making them responsible for your words, and ideas being accurately expressed.

If I post racist rants on twitter is the guy who coded that platform responsible for my actions?
He's responsible for making sure that your expressly stated ideas are accurately moved along from you to me.

If I actually make the above statement, but instead of it being stated in the manner I proscribed, it comes out as:

Fkvichxhrmtkfuv ugi fmf iij fycyfje iij duv8buwjwjfubof77vikfjfkif

How would you have any idea of what I'm stating?

So, you are relying heavily upon everyone between you and me to get your message across as you typed it.

Computer designers, keyboard makers, ascii developers, internet protocol makers, ISP companies, wireless carriers, etc.....

Everyone from you to me, and then I am relying heavily upon the same technologies back to you.

The ascii developers have worked through the necessary steps for converting the keystrokes from icons on a screen (in my immediate case, I'm using an android smartphone, which has a digital keyboard), into binary code which, using my keystrokes as an example would state

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110011 01100011 01101001 01101001 00100000 01100100 01100101 01110110 01100101 01101100 01101111 01110000 01100101 01110010 01110011 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110010 01101011 01100101 01100100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01110010 01101111 01110101 01100111 01101000 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101110 01100101 01100011 01100101 01110011 01110011 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100101 01110000 01110011 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110110 01100101 01110010 01110100 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01101011 01100101 01111001 01110011 01110100 01110010 01101111 01101011 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100110 01110010 01101111 01101101 00100000 01101001 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110011 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01100011 01110010 01100101 01100101 01101110 00100000 00101000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01101001 01101101 01101101 01100101 01100100 01101001 01100001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110011 01100101 00101100 00100000 01001001 00100111 01101101 00100000 01110101 01110011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 01110010 01101111 01101001 01100100 00100000 01110011 01101101 01100001 01110010 01110100 01110000 01101000 01101111 01101110 01100101 00101100 00100000 01110111 01101000 01101001 01100011 01101000 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100111 01101001 01110100 01100001 01101100 00100000 01101011 01100101 01111001 01100010 01101111 01100001 01110010 01100100 00101001 00101100 00100000 01101001 01101110 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100011 01101111 01100100 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101000 01101001 01100011 01101000 00101100 00100000 01110101 01110011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01101011 01100101 01111001 01110011 01110100 01110010 01101111 01101011 01100101 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110011 00100000 01100001 01101110 00100000 01100101 01111000 01100001 01101101 01110000 01101100 01100101 00100000 01110111 01101111 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01110011 01110100 01100001 01110100 01100101 00001010 00001010 00001010

And back again, on your end from binary to ascii text.

The ascii developers have worked through the necessary steps for converting the keystrokes from icons on a screen (in my immediate case, I'm using an android smartphone, which has a digital keyboard), into binary code which, using my keystrokes as an example would state

The binary language is transmitted through the computer system onto the internet, via internet protocol, and then translated into ascii once it reaches its intended recipients.







So I should ignore the apparent non-response from God and not conclude from it that there is no God or that he doesn’t care to make himself known to me?
He was quite clear about this issue.

In the day you seek him with all your heart, in THAT day, he will be found by you.

Humans down throughout history of the past 1988-91 years have had no problem whatsoever with YHVH and Jesus responding to us.

Others who have conflated their own beliefs about Jesus, with the truth about Jesus have missed him, because it wasn't Jesus they actually wanted.
It was their own beliefs of him they wanted.

As a recent meme on Facebook stated....

God is not the way WE say he is.
God is the way He describes himself as in the bible.

People ever since Cain have been changing God into their own ideas, and ignoring what he says about himself.

The serpent just outright lied, and deceived Eve.

After he sowed the seeds of doubt, he sets the hook with-- Has God REALLY said?

By believing him over God, we cannot see clearly.

Throughout history, God has been restoring the truth to the human race.

We read in Jeremiah 1:10,

Jer 1:10 WEB Behold, I have today set you over the nations and over the kingdoms, to uproot and to tear down, to destroy and to overthrow, to build and to plant.”

In the new testament letter to the Corinthian church, Paul describes to us,

2Co 10:3-6 WEB 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we don’t wage war according to the flesh; 4 for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the throwing down of strongholds, 5 throwing down imaginations and every high thing that is exalted against the knowledge of God and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being in readiness to avenge all disobedience when your obedience is made full.

So, instead of trying to win arguments, engage YHVH on his terms.

Jesus is quite clear that he will never refuse anyone who comes to him.



Origin stories are like that.
And this means.... what?
That the original message didn't happen the way it is stated in the bible?

And your evidence of history not happening the way it's described is?

So then up until you died would you have “continued in Christ’ teachings”?
That is my goal today.
I've been astonished by everything that God has done for me over the past 45+ years now.
And while there have been some pretty impressive things, healing my throat of the damage caused by my getting shot, and the cancer, I think that the most profound, yet sublime thing he's done is to change my heart and mind from an angry, bitter person, into someone who has hope, knowing full well that I don't deserve the least bit of his love, and tenderness towards me.
 
No, I actually wanted something and I got nothing.
It's the "something" that I'm interested in understanding.

He was quite clear that he will come and make his home with you.

To cleanse you of your sin and false beliefs. To remove the old stony heart of flesh (damaged, and corrupted by sin), and give you a new heart of flesh and a new spirit. That he'd make you new on the inside, where it really counts. Then, to make sure that it stuck, and you could never destroy it, He'd give you his Holy Spirit to change your life, and make sure that you keep his teachings and commandments. He further stated that he'd hold onto your life, holding it in trust for you, and on the final day, give it back. Wholly, fully, thoroughly clean and restored to him.

As we read in Colossians 3,

Since you are risen with Christ, seek those things that are above. Not of the things of the earth.
For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ, in God. And when Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you will be revealed with him in glory.

We read elsewhere,

1Jn 3:1-3 WEB 1 See how great a love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God! For this cause the world doesn’t know us, because it didn’t know him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God. It is not yet revealed what we will be; but we know that when he is revealed, we will be like him, for we will see him just as he is. 3 Everyone who has this hope set on him purifies himself, even as he is pure.

So, THAT's what we've been told that we can expect from God.

Adoption by God as beloved children, and a new nature, one that starts on the inside of our lives and grows up to be expressed on the outside of our lives.




Paul described a distinct application for followers of Jesus, based upon his “vision”.
Jesus was a Jew. His disciples were Jews.
Jesus mission was not to do away with Judaism but to free it from the rules imposed by the priestly classes.
Yep. All detailed in the new testament letters to the churches throughout the region.
John's letters, Peter's letters, Jude's, and Paul's.

Biblical Judaism is biblical christianity.

Not cultural christianity and cultural Judaism... but the biblical narrative.

Judaism as defined in the bible has morphed from a physical temple in Jerusalem, to every single follower of Jesus being the Temple of God. 1 Corinthians 3.

1Co 3:16 WEB Don’t you know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you?

The priesthood is now every single follower of Jesus.

1Pe 2:5-10 WEB 5 You also as living stones are built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 Because it is contained in Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, chosen and precious. He who believes in him will not be disappointed.” 7 For you who believe therefore is the honor, but for those who are disobedient, “The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone,” 8 and, “a stumbling stone and a rock of offense.” For they stumble at the word, being disobedient, to which also they were appointed. 9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, that you may proclaim the excellence of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 In the past, you were not a people, but now are God’s people, who had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

So.... yep. Biblical Judaism has taken on a whole new perspective. The irony is that biblical christianity is built entirely on what the Hebrew bible described.


No, that’s what you keep telling me. Another excuse for why YHVH doesn’t show up.
And yet you're the one sitting on the outside complaining about your sitting on the outside.

You're being invited to enter God's Kingdom, and be a member of the family.

So, why aren't you coming?
 
In the day you seek him with all your heart, in THAT day, he will be found by you.
It would be more convincing if you found Him without all your heart, that way you would know you hadn't falsely convinced yourself because you wanted to find Him.
 
It would be more convincing if you found Him without all your heart, that way you would know you hadn't falsely convinced yourself because you wanted to find Him.
Eph 1:13-14 WEB 13 In him you also, having heard the word of the truth, the Good News of your salvation—in whom, having also believed, you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a pledge of our inheritance, to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of his glory.

2Co 1:21-22 WEB 21 Now he who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, 22 who also sealed us and gave us the down payment of the Spirit in our hearts.

2Co 5:5-6 WEB 5 Now he who made us for this very thing is God, who also gave to us the down payment of the Spirit. 6 Therefore we are always confident and know that while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord;

2Ti 1:12 WEB For this cause I also suffer these things. Yet I am not ashamed, for I know him whom I have believed, and I am persuaded that he is able to guard that which I have committed to him against that day.

Joh 10:28-29 WEB 28 I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father who has given them to me is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

you mean like this?
 
Eph 1:13-14 WEB 13 In him you also, having heard the word of the truth, the Good News of your salvation—in whom, having also believed, you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a pledge of our inheritance, to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of his glory.

2Co 1:21-22 WEB 21 Now he who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, 22 who also sealed us and gave us the down payment of the Spirit in our hearts.

2Co 5:5-6 WEB 5 Now he who made us for this very thing is God, who also gave to us the down payment of the Spirit. 6 Therefore we are always confident and know that while we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord;

2Ti 1:12 WEB For this cause I also suffer these things. Yet I am not ashamed, for I know him whom I have believed, and I am persuaded that he is able to guard that which I have committed to him against that day.

Joh 10:28-29 WEB 28 I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father who has given them to me is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand.

you mean like this?
No. You seem to have forgotten to say how you know these are the words of God or men alone.
 
No. You seem to have forgotten to say how you know these are the words of God or men alone.
No.
I described it quite clearly.

You see, there's this rather interesting phenomenon known as evidence obtained through experience.

It's a simple construct.

Numerous people have written extensively about it.

Mostly in the form of textbooks.

Even professional crafts/trades have written extensively about it.

Do you know that it's possible to read a text, then do what it describes, and if you actually follow the instructions given therein, you will have exactly what the writer described in the book, in your hands?

I actually learned that in my apprenticeship program, my mathematics program, and more profoundly in my physics program at the university.

You really should try it.

This is what's known as firsthand knowledge. It's only able to be acquired from doing it yourself.

Every other kind of knowledge is secondhand or tertiary knowledge.
Those are acquired by reading the stories of others who have acquired their own firsthand knowledge and experience.
It can be acquired by reading books/newspapers/magazines or other reading materials, watching videos, or anything which you don't actually engage in experiencing yourself.

In like manner, the only way to know God is real and knowable is by engaging Jesus on the terms he's defined.

We've all had to do it.

You've been repeatedly described what I've done, what others have done and continue to do.

Secondary knowledge will only point you to where you need to go. You still need to go there yourself, in order to make it firsthand knowledge.
 
No.
I described it quite clearly.

You see, there's this rather interesting phenomenon known as evidence obtained through experience.

It's a simple construct.

Numerous people have written extensively about it.
Yes, like this man here …..

Mostly in the form of textbooks.

Even professional crafts/trades have written extensively about it.

Do you know that it's possible to read a text, then do what it describes, and if you actually follow the instructions given therein, you will have exactly what the writer described in the book, in your hands?

I actually learned that in my apprenticeship program, my mathematics program, and more profoundly in my physics program at the university.

You really should try it.

This is what's known as firsthand knowledge. It's only able to be acquired from doing it yourself.

Every other kind of knowledge is secondhand or tertiary knowledge.
Those are acquired by reading the stories of others who have acquired their own firsthand knowledge and experience.
It can be acquired by reading books/newspapers/magazines or other reading materials, watching videos, or anything which you don't actually engage in experiencing yourself.

In like manner, the only way to know God is real and knowable is by engaging Jesus on the terms he's defined.
Practical instructions on how to make a table or do physics are different from those leading to personal subjective experience because they can all too easily be prey to confirmation bias and irrationality.
 
Yes, like this man here …..


Practical instructions on how to make a table or do physics are different from those leading to personal subjective experience because they can all too easily be prey to confirmation bias and irrationality.
Further demonstrating that you don't actually know what you're talking about and are conflating your feelings with reality.
 
What a poor response. This is another attack against me rather than responding to the point of the video.
The video is irrelevant.
Your argument is based entirely on your lack of knowledge and experience, pushing someone else, with whom you have no familiarity, as yet another person to hide behind.

I'm curious WiF!

How many people do you think you can hide behind to escape from God's all seeing eyes?
How many people do you think will be enough to hide from death?
 
The video is irrelevant.
Your argument is based entirely on your lack of knowledge and experience, pushing someone else, with whom you have no familiarity, as yet another person to hide behind.
The video is entirely relevant. You said …

"You see, there's this rather interesting phenomenon known as evidence obtained through experience"

which is exactly what the man in the video was talking about, except it led to a different God to yours. This means evidence obtained through experience isn't reliable.


I'm curious WiF!
No you're not.
How many people do you think you can hide behind to escape from God's all seeing eyes?
How many people do you think will be enough to hide from death?
What a ridiculous statement. For me to think any of this I would have to believe God exists, which I don't. Try to think before you post.
 
The video is entirely relevant. You said …

"You see, there's this rather interesting phenomenon known as evidence obtained through experience"
Yep.
Truth has that attribute to it.
Lies do not.
Since the only way to actually know the truth is by acting on it.
Who is the savior of muslims?
Did Mohammed die for them?
Do muslims actually receive forgiveness and cleansing of their sin?
Do muslims become the adopted sons and daughters of Allah?
Is their life secured by Allah, and held in trust for them, against the day of judgment?
Who guarantees that they will enjoy eternal life when they die?
According to the Quran, the only way to guarantee they go to the Islamic version of heaven is by dying in the act of murdering enemies of Allah.
So, I'm thinking that if you actually want to know the truth about Islam, you have to get yourself killed while committing murder.

Answer the questions I asked, with references to back up your claim, and we'll go from there.

which is exactly what the man in the video was talking about, except it led to a different God to yours. This means evidence obtained through experience isn't reliable.
Not according to your biases.

The Muslim who commits suicide while committing murder is supposedly guaranteed a paradise with 72 virgins.
So, go murder enemies of Allah, and get yourself killed in the process, and I'm quite confident that you will learn the truth real fast!

Are you ready?
Get set....

Let us know how that goes for you.
No you're not.

What a ridiculous statement. For me to think any of this I would have to believe God exists, which I don't. Try to think before you post.
That's your problem.
Remember, you can't even answer basic questions about those beliefs you keep using as excuses to hide behind.
 
Yep.
Truth has that attribute to it.
Lies do not.
Since the only way to actually know the truth is by acting on it.
Who is the savior of muslims?
Did Mohammed die for them?
Do muslims actually receive forgiveness and cleansing of their sin?
Do muslims become the adopted sons and daughters of Allah?
Is their life secured by Allah, and held in trust for them, against the day of judgment?
Who guarantees that they will enjoy eternal life when they die?
According to the Quran, the only way to guarantee they go to the Islamic version of heaven is by dying in the act of murdering enemies of Allah.
So, I'm thinking that if you actually want to know the truth about Islam, you have to get yourself killed while committing murder.
This totally avoids the point, being, you said, "You see, there's this rather interesting phenomenon known as evidence obtained through experience"

The man in the video was talking about precisely that, evidence obtained through experience except it didn't show him Christianity. This means experiential evidence isn't reliable if it leads to different conclusions.

Btw, the man in the video isn't a Muslim. Did you actually watch the video?
 
This totally avoids the point, being, you said, "You see, there's this rather interesting phenomenon known as evidence obtained through experience"
Yep.
Truth has that attribute to it.

The man in the video was talking about precisely that, evidence obtained through experience except it didn't show him Christianity.
Well, I'm not talking about "christianity."
I've been talking about Jesus since I started here in November 2012.

Are you actually telling me that you have not been paying any attention whatsoever to what I've been explaining to you for the past decade?

This means experiential evidence isn't reliable if it leads to different conclusions.
Well, since you have just demonstrated to me that you have been talking about something else entirely, and totally ignored everything I've stated for the past nearly a decade now.... this doesn't surprise me at all.

Btw, the man in the video isn't a Muslim. Did you actually watch the video?
I told you the video is irrelevant.
You're desperate for the video to mean something that it'll never mean.
You clearly don't know how to think very well.
 
Yep.
Truth has that attribute to it.
Except when the same sort of experience that you advocate leads to different Gods, then it doesn't.
Well, I'm not talking about "christianity."
I've been talking about Jesus since I started here in November 2012.

Are you actually telling me that you have not been paying any attention whatsoever to what I've been explaining to you for the past decade?
Jesus, Christianity, it's the same end. You're just diverting.
Well, since you have just demonstrated to me that you have been talking about something else entirely, and totally ignored everything I've stated for the past nearly a decade now.... this doesn't surprise me at all.
So Jesus and Christianity are separate.
I told you the video is irrelevant.
But you didn't say why, which is what counts. Your declarative statement don't make things true.
You're desperate for the video to mean something that it'll never mean.
You're obviously deflecting, because you're just making declarative statements. You're desperate for it not to mean something.
You clearly don't know how to think very well.
Laughable, coming from you. An ad hominem, that you have just committed against me, is a fallacy of thinking.
 
Except when the same sort of experience that you advocate leads to different Gods, then it doesn't.
This is the problem here...
Experience based on truth is corroboratable, verifiable.
Experience based on lies cannot be corroborated.
You keep wanting it to be the way you're saying, because you just want to live the way you want. As your argument is based on lies, and you don't actually want to know the truth of YHVH, you keep telling yourself that.


Jesus, Christianity, it's the same end. You're just diverting.
Biblically speaking, correct. But even Jesus said that it's possible to have the appearance of being Christian and completely miss it.

Mat 15:8 WEB ‘These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Paul describes it in his letter to Timothy.

2Ti 3:5 WEB holding a form of godliness but having denied its power. Turn away from these, also.

Jesus further stated

Mat 7:21-23 WEB 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ 23 Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’

It's possible to have all the appearances, and yet completely miss it.

This is exactly why Paul tells us in his letters to examine ourselves to see if we're in the faith or not. And why John describes to us in his first letter a series of tests that verify whether or not we are following Jesus. To which he sums up,

1Jn 5:13 WEB These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

So, it's pretty clear that by living the truth, we can in fact know. And by not living the truth, and just living with the trappings of the truth, and not the substance, we can completely miss the truth, and be trapped in the lie.

So Jesus and Christianity are separate.
Mat 15:8 WEB‘These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

This is what Jesus said.

Mat 7:21-23 WEB 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ 23 Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’

based on the ideas atheists have repeatedly expressed for the past several centuries, the churches have developed all sorts of extemporaneous and superfluous ideas that have become the external structure of christianity.

even the bible, in chapters 2 and 3 of the book of Revelation describes superfluous practices that are not biblical christianity. But cculturally based elements of church life.

so, it's possible to attend church for one's entire life and completely miss Jesus.

this is exactly why I make a distinction between Christian and Jesus follower.


But you didn't say why, which is what counts.
Instead of complaining, try learning. Read, and seek YHVH with your whole heart, and then you will learn why.

Your declarative statement don't make things true.
Why do you think I give you the biblical references? So you can do your own research and learn the truth for yourself!
You're obviously deflecting, because you're just making declarative statements. You're desperate for it not to mean something.
Sounds like you don't actually want to know the truth.

I'll restate what I've been stating for close to a decade on this forum, and numerous decades since 1977...

This is not an argument. It's an invitation to engage in a relationship with YHVH and Jesus.

Jesus was quite clear about this.

Joh 14:22-24 WEB 22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to him, “Lord, what has happened that you are about to reveal yourself to us, and not to the world?” 23 Jesus answered him, “If a man loves me, he will keep my word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 He who doesn’t love me doesn’t keep my words. The word which you hear isn’t mine, but the Father’s who sent me.

Do you, or do you not want to know the truth?

If you actually want to know the truth (which you have been claiming for years now that you do), then do what Jesus said. And you can learn what Jesus said by reading the bible.



Laughable, coming from you. An ad hominem, that you have just committed against me, is a fallacy of thinking.
Sounds like you don't actually want to know the truth.

The choice is yours.
There's a day coming when you will have let too much time pass, and then you will have excluded yourself from knowing the truth.
 
This is the problem here...
Experience based on truth is corroboratable, verifiable.
Experience based on lies cannot be corroborated.
The chap in the video thinks his experience is based on truth, as you think yours is. By all means, describe how you have verified your truth.
You keep wanting it to be the way you're saying, because you just want to live the way you want.
Tiresomely wrong. You really have no idea about atheists. That's probably why you don't reach them very well.
<Tiresome comment ridiculous beyond words snipped>
If you're this far gone, you have no hope of any sort of reasonable exchange with atheists.

So, you've yet to give any sort of reasonable reply to the video.
 
The chap in the video thinks his experience is based on truth, as you think yours is. By all means, describe how you have verified your truth.
So, it's only true when you say it's true, but if you're looking to escape culpability, there's no way it can be true?
Go through the video, examine the speaker's content, and tell me how he verified his ideas of truth.

Tiresomely wrong. You really have no idea about atheists. That's probably why you don't reach them very well.
"tiresomely" buried in your own delusions. We can both play this game of yours.
You have repeatedly made it abundantly clear you don't want to be clearly known/understood. Otherwise, you would have worked assiduously at answering all my questions, instead of ignoring, dismissing, and mocking them.
Which is why you keep giving yourself excuses to escape culpability for learning the truth.
If you're this far gone, you have no hope of any sort of reasonable exchange with atheists.
Considering you've done everything in your power to escape reasonable exchanges, I'm no longer concerned by your opinions.
So, you've yet to give any sort of reasonable reply to the video.
Go through the video, examine the speaker's content, and tell me how he verified his ideas of truth.
 
So, it's only true when you say it's true, but if you're looking to escape culpability, there's no way it can be true?
That's not what I said at all. How many people tell you you misrepresent what they've said?
Go through the video, examine the speaker's content, and tell me how he verified his ideas of truth.
He explained how he thought his experiential truth was self verifying. Much the same as you.

"tiresomely" buried in your own delusions. We can both play this game of yours.
You have repeatedly made it abundantly clear you don't want to be clearly known/understood. Otherwise, you would have worked assiduously at answering all my questions, instead of ignoring, dismissing, and mocking them.
Which is why you keep giving yourself excuses to escape culpability for learning the truth.
Translation, you don't believe what I say so therefore you don't want to know the truth. Come on.
Go through the video, examine the speaker's content, and tell me how he verified his ideas of truth.
Same as you, he feels it.
 
That's not what I said at all. How many people tell you you misrepresent what they've said?
sigh....
Apparently, you're not very good at communication skills.
I was taught to re-state in my own words, what others say, so I can make sure I'm understanding them correctly. And do so with a question mark, so they can see that it's a question, and not just a statement.
Did you miss the question mark? It's really clear if you actually read.


He explained how he thought his experiential truth was self verifying. Much the same as you.
In what manner is it self-verifying?

Physics systems are self-verifying too.
Eg,
If I threw a ball, in a standard manner, with a light enough hand that it travels in an arc, subsequent research will bear out that the equations match that same pathway.

Thus, I can verify that trajectory by the means given in physics texts/research.

So, how did he say he could verify it?


Translation, you don't believe what I say so therefore you don't want to know the truth. Come on.
Actually,

Physics systems are self-verifying too.
Eg,
If I threw a ball, in a standard manner, with a light enough hand that it travels in an arc, subsequent research will bear out that the equations match that same pathway.

Thus, I can verify that trajectory by the means given in physics texts/research.
Same as you, he feels it.
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Yeah, you're definitely NOT paying attention.
I have NEVER once stated I "feel it." My feelings are the worst possible gage of knowing truth.

I have repeatedly stated, far more times than I can count, that I test it against the biblical narrative.
If it matches the biblical narrative, then I know it's true.

The same way that I can verify that the trajectory the ball takes in my toss.


By using the equations, we can chart the position of the ball at each point on its trajectory. We can also chart the velocity at each point along its trajectory.

In like manner, by using the bible, we can determine whether or not God is doing what he said he'd do.
 
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