Temujin
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The very first replicating organism on earth, around 3.75 billion years ago.No need to talk so much.
You come from your parents and they from their parents, where does this series end - ultimately?
The very first replicating organism on earth, around 3.75 billion years ago.No need to talk so much.
You come from your parents and they from their parents, where does this series end - ultimately?
YesYou see, everyone, there is existence, period.
Now you ask Where does existence come from?
It is always present. Outside of existence there is only non-existence i.e. nothingness.
We cannot know anything about nothingness, so we can't talk at all about nothingness - but we do in an ironic and bizarre way know about nothingness, namely, it is the absolute opposite of somethingness.
You do notice that we humans are not always present.
That is because we humans are hard-wired to live for a time only, and then to go into non-existence with our death.
NoUltimately, transient entities like us humans, we implicate the existence of a permanent self-existent creator and operator for us to come into existence i.e. life - although for a period only.
You do. You speak for no-one else.And we call that entity God.
That post has gone. I do report, and I find it works. Some posters get more vacation time than others but posts that make certain points of view look ugly, deranged or abusive, will be taken down.I would report that post, but they never do anything about people with whom they agree.
OK - why does our existence point to that of a conscious, eternal, incorporeal creating/sustaining entity?Okay, everynone, ask me more questions about existence and the existence of God.
The very first replicating organism on earth, around 3.75 billion years ago.yrger said:
No need to talk so much.
You come from your parents and they from their parents, where does this series end - ultimately?
Well, if there's any order and non-randomness to evolution, it's not the evolution I learned about.You're doing it again, no it isn't. You have no idea.
How would I know what you think?If you don't know what I meant when I said "Evolution doesn't say" there is no hope for you.
Of course you don't.Oh good grief. I have no words. Is there any point bothering?
You obviously haven't learnt about evolution at all, unless its the usual BS from creationists. You made that obvious.Well, if there's any order and non-randomness to evolution, it's not the evolution I learned about.
The above shows again you have no idea what evolution is about, and yet you continue to talk about it as if you do.Furthermore, unless it's random, it's intelligently directed.
How exactly is the existence of a permanent self-existent creator implicated by transient entities like us humans? That is, can you fill in the following?Ultimately, transient entities like us humans, we implicate the existence of a permanent self-existent creator and operator for us to come into existence i.e. life - although for a period only.
Nope. Junior high school in 1972.You obviously haven't learnt about evolution at all, unless its the usual BS from creationists. You made that obvious.
The above shows again you have no idea what evolution is about, and yet you continue to talk about it as if you do.
How exactly is the existence of a permanent self-existent creator implicated by transient entities like us humans? That is, can you fill in the following? -Gusyrger said:
Ultimately, transient entities like us humans, we implicate the existence of a permanent self-existent creator and operator for us to come into existence i.e. life - although for a period only.
OK - why does our existence point to that of a conscious, eternal, incorporeal creating/sustaining entity?yrger said:
Okay, everynone, ask me more questions about existence and the existence of God.
Infinite.OK, keep backing it up....where did the original instance come from?
On what foundation do you base this claim?So, it is obvious that whereas we humans did not exist previously, we now exist: because ultimately an eternal, incorporeal creating/sustaining entity brought about our existence, i.e. caused our coming to existence.
Sure. Do Christians? What is it? Where does it come from? Is it of your own making?Okay, now I will request our atheist colleagues here, to tell everyone, do you atheists have a purpose in life?
No "spirit" possesses me.Jesus never lied, even your father knows of this, the spirit that possessed you and is inside you is the liar, by the way, it's from him that you were born, do you understand?
You just keep telling me to do what Jesus said.I have. You keep telling me that you don't actually want to know for yourself.
What do the rocks and earth, plants and animals prove?Look at the rocks and earth beneath your feet.
Look at the plants, animals, and human beings all around you.
Ever notice that for all the talk about evolution and randomness, there are no people who are part plant?
Nor are there lizards who are part dog?
Nor humans who are part cat?
Each of us are after their own kind.
Exactly as the bible says.
Humans experience death, exactly like the bible says.
If death was actually natural, then why would people be bothered by it? Why does the medical profession seek to extend human life?
Why is the post-humanism/trans-humanism/H+ movement so important to people? Everything I've read about it is to extend the human existence beyond the death of the body. The cryogenic industry, trying to extend human life...
Because we are a social species. We depend on each other for survival so behaviours that promote that are seen as desirable.Why is morality so important to civilization existing?
None of these things show that there is something wrong with mankind.Each of these things and a helluva lot more are evidence that there is something wrong with the human race and the truth of the Creator.
What the Bible claims does not comport with my experience of reality.He's provided us with the wherewithal to know him.
Jesus was quite clear about this issue.
He said he won't turn away anyone who comes to him.
We further read in Hebrews, God saves to the uttermost ALL who come to him through Jesus Christ.
Like you?
Atheists are notorious for their wild ideas and the complete lack of evidence.
Imagination run wild.
They have far more faith in their beliefs than anyone I've ever met.
Questions are not an argument.Now, where does "The very first replicating organism on earth, around 3.75 billion years ago" come from?
Not just one, but yes.Okay, now I will request our atheist colleagues here, to tell everyone, do you atheists have a purpose in life?