How to learn about the atheist religion, atheist creeds and doctrine.

Authentic Nouveau

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The Orthodox atheist ring leaders purify their space by cleansing religious population.

Re-education camps. Brain washing. Silence the critics. Religions have their sacred writings. Atheism tries to confiscate Bibles, etc.
Sue to remove "In God We Trust"
Sue to remove prayer
Sue to remove 10 commandments

China (MNN) — One of the largest evangelical churches in China was completely demolished in a shocking government campaign on January 9th. Golden Lampstand Church in Shanxi Province has been around for nearly a decade with 50,000 congregants. But it wasn’t registered with the Chinese government.

2018.
 

SteveB

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As I've said before, your writing on CARM is best understood as poetry.
Here's some great poetry. What's really important is that it's truth.



Psa 15:2 He who walks blamelessly and does what is right, and speaks truth in his heart;

Psa 25:5 Guide me in your truth, and teach me, For you are the God of my salvation, I wait for you all day long.

Psa 25:10 All the paths of Yahweh are loving kindness and truth to such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

Psa 26:3 For your loving kindness is before my eyes. I have walked in your truth.

Psa 30:9 “What profit is there in my destruction, if I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise you? Shall it declare your truth?

Psa 31:5 Into your hand I commend my spirit. You redeem me, Yahweh, God of truth.

Psa 40:10 I have not hidden your righteousness within my heart. I have declared your faithfulness and your salvation. I have not concealed your loving kindness and your truth from the great assembly.

Psa 40:11 Don’t withhold your tender mercies from me, Yahweh. Let your loving kindness and your truth continually preserve me.

Psa 43:3 Oh, send out your light and your truth. Let them lead me. Let them bring me to your holy hill, to your tents.

Psa 45:4 In your majesty ride on victoriously on behalf of truth, humility, and righteousness. Let your right hand display awesome deeds.

Psa 51:6 Behold, you desire truth in the inward parts. You teach me wisdom in the inmost place.




Psa 52:3 You love evil more than good, lying rather than speaking the truth. Selah.

Psa 54:5 He will repay the evil to my enemies. Destroy them in your truth.

Psa 57:3 He will send from heaven, and save me, he rebukes the one who is pursuing me. Selah. God will send out his loving kindness and his truth.

Psa 57:10 For your great loving kindness reaches to the heavens, and your truth to the skies.

Psa 60:4 You have given a banner to those who fear you, that it may be displayed because of the truth. Selah.


Psa 61:7 He shall be enthroned in God’s presence forever. Appoint your loving kindness and truth, that they may preserve him.

Psa 69:13 But as for me, my prayer is to you, Yahweh, in an acceptable time. God, in the abundance of your loving kindness, answer me in the truth of your salvation.

Psa 85:10 Mercy and truth meet together. Righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

Psa 85:11 Truth springs out of the earth. Righteousness has looked down from heaven.

Psa 86:11 Teach me your way, Yahweh. I will walk in your truth. Make my heart undivided to fear your name.

Psa 86:15 But you, Lord, are a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness and truth.

Psa 89:14 Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne. Loving kindness and truth go before your face.

Psa 96:13 before Yahweh; for he comes, for he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world with righteousness, the peoples with his truth.

Psa 111:7 The works of his hands are truth and justice. All his precepts are sure.

Psa 111:8 They are established forever and ever. They are done in truth and uprightness.

Psa 115:1 Not to us, Yahweh, not to us, but to your name give glory, for your loving kindness, and for your truth’s sake.

Psa 119:30 I have chosen the way of truth. I have set your ordinances before me.

Psa 119:43 Don’t snatch the word of truth out of my mouth, for I put my hope in your ordinances.

Psa 119:142 Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness. Your law is truth.

Psa 119:151 You are near, Yahweh. All your commandments are truth.

Psa 119:160 All of your words are truth. Every one of your righteous ordinances endures forever.

Psa 132:11 Yahweh has sworn to David in truth. He will not turn from it: “I will set the fruit of your body on your throne.

Psa 138:2 I will bow down toward your holy temple, and give thanks to your Name for your loving kindness and for your truth; for you have exalted your Name and your Word above all.

Psa 145:18 Yahweh is near to all those who call on him, to all who call on him in truth.

Psa 146:6 who made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them; who keeps truth forever;



Psa 19:9 The fear of Yahweh is clean, enduring forever. Yahweh’s ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.

Psa 105:19 until the time that his word happened, and Yahweh’s word proved him true.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
The Orthodox atheist ring leaders purify their space by cleansing religious population.

Re-education camps. Brain washing. Silence the critics. Religions have their sacred writings. Atheism tries to confiscate Bibles, etc.
Sue to remove "In God We Trust"
Sue to remove prayer
Sue to remove 10 commandments

China (MNN) — One of the largest evangelical churches in China was completely demolished in a shocking government campaign on January 9th. Golden Lampstand Church in Shanxi Province has been around for nearly a decade with 50,000 congregants. But it wasn’t registered with the Chinese government.

2018.
Nonsense and fantasy.
 

The Pixie

Well-known member
The Orthodox atheist ring leaders purify their space by cleansing religious population.

Re-education camps. Brain washing. Silence the critics. Religions have their sacred writings. Atheism tries to confiscate Bibles, etc.
Sue to remove "In God We Trust"
Sue to remove prayer
Sue to remove 10 commandments

China (MNN) — One of the largest evangelical churches in China was completely demolished in a shocking government campaign on January 9th. Golden Lampstand Church in Shanxi Province has been around for nearly a decade with 50,000 congregants. But it wasn’t registered with the Chinese government.

2018.
Do you honestly think any atheist on CARM has been involved in any of these things?
 

Whatsisface

Well-known member
Here's some great poetry. What's really important is that it's truth.



Psa 15:2 He who walks blamelessly and does what is right, and speaks truth in his heart;

Psa 25:5 Guide me in your truth, and teach me, For you are the God of my salvation, I wait for you all day long.

Psa 25:10 All the paths of Yahweh are loving kindness and truth to such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

Psa 26:3 For your loving kindness is before my eyes. I have walked in your truth.

Psa 30:9 “What profit is there in my destruction, if I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise you? Shall it declare your truth?

Psa 31:5 Into your hand I commend my spirit. You redeem me, Yahweh, God of truth.

Psa 40:10 I have not hidden your righteousness within my heart. I have declared your faithfulness and your salvation. I have not concealed your loving kindness and your truth from the great assembly.

Psa 40:11 Don’t withhold your tender mercies from me, Yahweh. Let your loving kindness and your truth continually preserve me.

Psa 43:3 Oh, send out your light and your truth. Let them lead me. Let them bring me to your holy hill, to your tents.

Psa 45:4 In your majesty ride on victoriously on behalf of truth, humility, and righteousness. Let your right hand display awesome deeds.

Psa 51:6 Behold, you desire truth in the inward parts. You teach me wisdom in the inmost place.




Psa 52:3 You love evil more than good, lying rather than speaking the truth. Selah.

Psa 54:5 He will repay the evil to my enemies. Destroy them in your truth.

Psa 57:3 He will send from heaven, and save me, he rebukes the one who is pursuing me. Selah. God will send out his loving kindness and his truth.

Psa 57:10 For your great loving kindness reaches to the heavens, and your truth to the skies.

Psa 60:4 You have given a banner to those who fear you, that it may be displayed because of the truth. Selah.


Psa 61:7 He shall be enthroned in God’s presence forever. Appoint your loving kindness and truth, that they may preserve him.

Psa 69:13 But as for me, my prayer is to you, Yahweh, in an acceptable time. God, in the abundance of your loving kindness, answer me in the truth of your salvation.

Psa 85:10 Mercy and truth meet together. Righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

Psa 85:11 Truth springs out of the earth. Righteousness has looked down from heaven.

Psa 86:11 Teach me your way, Yahweh. I will walk in your truth. Make my heart undivided to fear your name.

Psa 86:15 But you, Lord, are a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness and truth.

Psa 89:14 Righteousness and justice are the foundation of your throne. Loving kindness and truth go before your face.

Psa 96:13 before Yahweh; for he comes, for he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world with righteousness, the peoples with his truth.

Psa 111:7 The works of his hands are truth and justice. All his precepts are sure.

Psa 111:8 They are established forever and ever. They are done in truth and uprightness.

Psa 115:1 Not to us, Yahweh, not to us, but to your name give glory, for your loving kindness, and for your truth’s sake.

Psa 119:30 I have chosen the way of truth. I have set your ordinances before me.

Psa 119:43 Don’t snatch the word of truth out of my mouth, for I put my hope in your ordinances.

Psa 119:142 Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness. Your law is truth.

Psa 119:151 You are near, Yahweh. All your commandments are truth.

Psa 119:160 All of your words are truth. Every one of your righteous ordinances endures forever.

Psa 132:11 Yahweh has sworn to David in truth. He will not turn from it: “I will set the fruit of your body on your throne.

Psa 138:2 I will bow down toward your holy temple, and give thanks to your Name for your loving kindness and for your truth; for you have exalted your Name and your Word above all.

Psa 145:18 Yahweh is near to all those who call on him, to all who call on him in truth.

Psa 146:6 who made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them; who keeps truth forever;



Psa 19:9 The fear of Yahweh is clean, enduring forever. Yahweh’s ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.

Psa 105:19 until the time that his word happened, and Yahweh’s word proved him true.
What is the point of posting this? What effect do you think it will have, apart from making you look foolish? Are atheists going to read these verses and suddenly see the light? No, of course not.
 

The Pixie

Well-known member
Here's some great poetry. What's really important is that it's truth.
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Psa 19:9 The fear of Yahweh is clean, enduring forever. Yahweh’s ordinances are true, and righteous altogether.
Psa 105:19 until the time that his word happened, and Yahweh’s word proved him true.
I thought I would just focus on the last two lines there.

I find it disturbing that the "fear of Yahweh is clean, enduring forever". And that you want to write poetry about it? Do you live your life in fear, Steve? Christians often tell us "God is love", it is a sick kind of love if it involves everlasting fear.

If "Yahweh’s ordinances are true, and righteous altogether. " then you think it is righteous to allow slavery? I am looking specifically at Lev 25:44-46, which makes clear chattel slavery is okay. Personally, i think slavery is wrong.

The last line, from Psalm 105, is about Joseph, and how his time as a slave made him a better person. Is this again about your support of slavery? Are you saying it is good because the slave benefits?
 

Furion

Well-known member
The Orthodox atheist ring leaders purify their space by cleansing religious population.

Re-education camps. Brain washing. Silence the critics. Religions have their sacred writings. Atheism tries to confiscate Bibles, etc.
Sue to remove "In God We Trust"
Sue to remove prayer
Sue to remove 10 commandments

China (MNN) — One of the largest evangelical churches in China was completely demolished in a shocking government campaign on January 9th. Golden Lampstand Church in Shanxi Province has been around for nearly a decade with 50,000 congregants. But it wasn’t registered with the Chinese government.

2018.
I have learned so much from atheist apologists. I'm not sure anything else can be learned.

I've learned they like socialism. America is loserville, europe is so much better.

Still waiting for that magical country where only skeptics live in the glory of atheism. Sure, the examples we have of communism are all they got, but utopia surely cannot be far behind because they tell me christianity is on a rapid decline into oblivion.

I've learned that one can claim counterintuitive logic by saying they would never be like those bad places because no one has tried their version of it yet.

I do imagine one thing, when they form their politburo, they won't ban religion, they'll just stifle it to death. That sounds better, no?

I'm afraid the first to go would be you. They really don't like ferengi either. They have me on ignore so I imagine no one would notice if I faded into dirt.

It's all counterintuitive, but surely they wouldn't be as bad as their peers in government, we'll just have to trust them.
 

The Pixie

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I have learned so much from atheist apologists. I'm not sure anything else can be learned.

I've learned they like socialism. America is loserville, europe is so much better.
Ironic than that Jesus almost certainly would be a socialist, as he too advocated looking out for other people, rather than the just-look-after-yoirself-and screw-everyone else philosophy of modern Christianity .

Still waiting for that magical country where only skeptics live in the glory of atheism. Sure, the examples we have of communism are all they got, but utopia surely cannot be far behind because they tell me christianity is on a rapid decline into oblivion.
Communism - at least as we see it in Russia, etc. - is very different to socialism. It is certainly not about looking out for other people.

I do imagine one thing, when they form their politburo, they won't ban religion, they'll just stifle it to death. That sounds better, no?
Than the Christian way, or burning the heretics? Yes, much better.
 

Furion

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Ironic than that Jesus almost certainly would be a socialist, as he too advocated looking out for other people, rather than the just-look-after-yoirself-and screw-everyone else philosophy of modern Christianity .
I love how you can step in for Christ and tell me what He would do. Especially in light of what He said He did and will do.

Here are some pointers.

He declared your world stands condemned.
He commanded His people to come out of your world.
He told us He will destroy your world by the simple brightness of His appearing.

Those are just a few generalized statements.

You should deal with the actual Christ. He didn't endorse capitalism nor socialism. It will be a complete dictatorship unlike anything ever seen.

Communism - at least as we see it in Russia, etc. - is very different to socialism. It is certainly not about looking out for other people.
Christ told us to attend to the physical, it's a natural thing, even for atheists.

But really, the rot in the soul is not fed with food or shelter.
Than the Christian way, or burning the heretics? Yes, much better.

I don't think atheists here realize He has condemned all your human governments.

Christ speaks of the black heart in men, you think He endorsed socialism.

The ignorance is mega astounding.
 

The Pixie

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I love how you can step in for Christ and tell me what He would do. Especially in light of what He said He did and will do.
Not a problem. I think a lot of Christians loose sight of the fact that Jesus supposedly died for everyone - surely that is the ultimate act of socialism.

Here are some pointers.

He declared your world stands condemned.
He commanded His people to come out of your world.
He told us He will destroy your world by the simple brightness of His appearing.
So what? You think that makes him a capitalist?

You might want to see what Jesus said about the rich and the poor. It is not the rich capitalists who go to heaven.

Those are just a few generalized statements.

You should deal with the actual Christ. He didn't endorse capitalism nor socialism. It will be a complete dictatorship unlike anything ever seen.
So more like the USSR? That really what you are saying here?

Christ told us to attend to the physical, it's a natural thing, even for atheists.

But really, the rot in the soul is not fed with food or shelter.

I don't think atheists here realize He has condemned all your human governments.
You are aware that atheists do not think Jesus is God, right?

Christ speaks of the black heart in men, you think He endorsed socialism.
I never said he endorsed socialism, I said he would be a socialist, meaning if he was around today. I stand by that. At best you are saying he endorses totalitarianism, and I have a feeling you will back-pedal from them pretty quickly.

Did Jesus follow the capitalist principle of looking out for himself, whilst accumulating wealth?

Or did he follow the socialist principle of looking out for everyone, and sharing wealth?

I think the latter.
 

Furion

Well-known member
Not a problem. I think a lot of Christians loose sight of the fact that Jesus supposedly died for everyone - surely that is the ultimate act of socialism.
Oh my, do you feel socialism=salvation?
So what? You think that makes him a capitalist?

Since it was confusing for you or you didn't read it, Christ is neither a socialist nor capitalist. Hope that helps.

You might want to see what Jesus said about the rich and the poor. It is not the rich capitalists who go to heaven.
I get the impression you think heaven is entered by party affiliation.

I'll play your game for just a little bit, but really it's either showing your ignorance or your willingness to play ignorant.

So more like the USSR? That really what you are saying here?

I realize you can only comprehend your physical existence and physical human governance.

I'm just gathering how ignorant you are about Christ, or how far you will go in the game.

And here atheists have been whining as of late how to improve this forum.
You are aware that atheists do not think Jesus is God, right?
It is not my concern why atheists talk to christians over something they don't believe.

I never said he endorsed socialism, I said he would be a socialist, meaning if he was around today. I stand by that. At best you are saying he endorses totalitarianism, and I have a feeling you will back-pedal from them pretty quickly.
Christ endorses those who love Him, and those who reject Him will be cast aside. The government will be upon His shoulders
Did Jesus follow the capitalist principle of looking out for himself, whilst accumulating wealth?
Capitalist principle? Jesus didn't follow any of your man made principles.
Or did he follow the socialist principle of looking out for everyone, and sharing wealth?

I think the latter.
You can think it, sure
 

The Pixie

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Oh my, do you feel socialism=salvation?

Jesus died for the people, not for himself. That is socialism, as opposed to capitalism. It is that he did it for everyone that makes it socialist, not that he was doing it to save them.

Since it was confusing for you or you didn't read it, Christ is neither a socialist nor capitalist. Hope that helps.
I never said he was. I said if he was around today he would be socialist, given he was concern with the people, not just himself.

I get the impression you think heaven is entered by party affiliation.
Sure, because you are not actually reading my posts, you are just responding to your own straw man.

I do not believe heaven is entered by party affiliation because I do not believe in heaven. I am an atheist.

I realize you can only comprehend your physical existence and physical human governance.

I'm just gathering how ignorant you are about Christ, or how far you will go in the game.

And here atheists have been whining as of late how to improve this forum.

It is not my concern why atheists talk to christians over something they don't believe.
Content-free rant full of insults. Is that the Christian way?

Absolutely!

Christ endorses those who love Him, and those who reject Him will be cast aside. The government will be upon His shoulders

Capitalist principle? Jesus didn't follow any of your man made principles.
I never said he did. I just said he would be a socialist if he was here today, given he was about looking out for everyone, not just himself. I see nothing in your post that suggests otherwise.
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
I have learned so much from atheist apologists. I'm not sure anything else can be learned.

I've learned they like socialism. America is loserville, europe is so much better.

Still waiting for that magical country where only skeptics live in the glory of atheism. Sure, the examples we have of communism are all they got, but utopia surely cannot be far behind because they tell me christianity is on a rapid decline into oblivion.

I've learned that one can claim counterintuitive logic by saying they would never be like those bad places because no one has tried their version of it yet.

I do imagine one thing, when they form their politburo, they won't ban religion, they'll just stifle it to death. That sounds better, no?

I'm afraid the first to go would be you. They really don't like ferengi either. They have me on ignore so I imagine no one would notice if I faded into dirt.

It's all counterintuitive, but surely they wouldn't be as bad as their peers in government, we'll just have to trust them.
I have learned they want to guard their monopoly on slavery and torture.
 

Furion

Well-known member
Jesus died for the people, not for himself. That is socialism, as opposed to capitalism. It is that he did it for everyone that makes it socialist, not that he was doing it to save them.
Oh my, you will try to cram that star shape into a pinhole, won't you.

Hate to tell you this but governments come and go, men live and die, and Christ was not concerned about it.

I am not an apologist for capitalism. You clearly seem to be an apologist for socialism.

If I were asked whether I want to live under one or the other then give me liberty.
I never said he was. I said if he was around today he would be socialist, given he was concern with the people, not just himself.
Maybe this will help?

If Christ were here today He would land on the mount of olives, an earthquake would reverberate around the world, and the terror of the armies of heaven would really frighten man to death, and all those who oppose Him would be poof.

So be careful what you think Christ would do if He were here. Literally it will be game over. Good heavens man, read what He said.

Not even capitalism would survive if that makes you feel better.
Sure, because you are not actually reading my posts, you are just responding to your own straw man.

I do not believe heaven is entered by party affiliation because I do not believe in heaven. I am an atheist.
So then you are just ranting against Christ and those who love Him.
Content-free rant full of insults. Is that the Christian way?

Absolutely!


I never said he did. I just said he would be a socialist if he was here today, given he was about looking out for everyone, not just himself. I see nothing in your post that suggests otherwise.
Your thinking is very shallow, no offense intended.
 
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