How would you feel?

romishpopishorganist

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Abortion supporters: if your mother told you "I should have aborted you. I regret bringing you to term."

How would you feel? Angry, hurt, etc? Would you care?

Would you still support abortion?
 

shnarkle

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Abortion supporters: if your mother told you "I should have aborted you. I regret bringing you to term."

How would you feel? Angry, hurt, etc? Would you care?

Would you still support abortion?
I've never supported abortion. However, I feel I am qualified to answer this question because "the heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked". I have a human heart, and my mother used to tell me that I would wish I'd never been born. This was an almost constant refrain whenever I did anything that offended her, or made her life miserable. I was an almost constant source of disappointment to my mother. So the reality is that by saying that I would wish I'd never been born, on a very real level, she was saying that she wished I had never been born.

It makes me feel that I want revenge. I not only wish I had never been born, I wish my mother had never been born. She used to call down God's wrath upon my head, and now all I can do is call down God's wrath upon her head as well. I am certain I am damned, and as Christ points out, it would be better for some if they'd never been born.

So my support for abortion only extends to my own mother being aborted. Barring that, I can heap hot coals upon my head and curse my own conception.
 

BMS

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Both


Yup.

Telling an adult they should have been aborted isn't an abortion issue. It's an insult.
For Christians it is an insult and a curse.
For you however, reflect on why when you support abortion it could possibly be an insult?
 

BMS

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Because it's an insult, and no one was aborted.

I don't mean to insult you, but it's very difficult imagining that you failed to understand the meat of your own hypothetical.
Should. The words 'should have been' in the phrase 'should have been aborted' means no one was aborted so why tell us what you were told?
Also since what didnt happen was the abortion, it was equally about abortion as being an insult.
 

mikeT

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Should. The words 'should have been' in the phrase 'should have been aborted' means no one was aborted so why tell us what you were told?
Also since what didnt happen was the abortion, it was equally about abortion as being an insult.
Nope.

It was an insult. That's all.
 

BMS

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"If your mother said

"I wish you had been hit by a car"

would you be hurt?
Would you be opposed to cars?"

"This is a motoring issue, by the way."
Would you be opposed to a car or opposed to being hit by a car. Would you be opposed to a baby in the womb or opposed to someone killing it.?
 

BMS

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It's not an abortion issue; it's a circuitous way of saying

"I wish you were dead."

Shoehorning abortion in... don't get it.
Pro-choice abortion is a way of saying 'i wish you were dead' to the offspring.
Like pro-choice is not a choice issue.
 

romishpopishorganist

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Yes.

YES.

The two are not remotely related - "I wish I had miscarried", or "I wish you had died as a child" amount to the same.
How are they NOT remotely related?

If a woman tells her child "I wish I had aborted you when I had the chance" the woman is telling her child that she wished she had killed her child when it was legal for her to do so.

How are they not remotely related?
 

romishpopishorganist

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Because it's an insult, and no one was aborted.

I don't mean to insult you, but it's very difficult imagining that you failed to understand the meat of your own hypothetical.
No, sir, I think you are missing the point of my question.

The point of my asking you the question was not because I do not understand. The point was to try and get YOU to understand what abortion is.
 

Eightcrackers

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How are they NOT remotely related?

If a woman tells her child "I wish I had aborted you when I had the chance" the woman is telling her child that she wished she had killed her child when it was legal for her to do so.

How are they not remotely related?
Because you chose a very, very specific way of saying "I wish you were dead".

If she had said "I wish that you had died by X", would you be against X, no matter what it is?
 

mikeT

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No, sir, I think you are missing the point of my question.

The point of my asking you the question was not because I do not understand. The point was to try and get YOU to understand what abortion is.
Your question doesn't even remotely help anyone understand what abortion is.

By the way, if anyone is posting to this forum without understanding what abortion is, they should probably just delete their own account...
 
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