How would you feel?

Temujin

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That's ridiculous. You're complaining that I'm 'playing semantics' when the issue is entirely semantics. Whether abortion is murder depends entirely on the meaning of the word 'murder'. If I use the definition of the word 'murder', it's "playing semantics"?
Playing semantics is what it's called when you object to them playing semantics. What they call what they are doing is : "Describing the truth as I want it to be"
 

DaGeo

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Because it's an insult, and no one was aborted.

I don't mean to insult you, but it's very difficult imagining that you failed to understand the meat of your own hypothetical.
It’s naive to assume that all mothers who say that don’t really meant it.
 

DaGeo

Active member
Yes.

YES.

The two are not remotely related - "I wish I had miscarried", or "I wish you had died as a child" amount to the same.
It’s naive to assume all mothers using that language don’t mean exactly what they say.

Yeah, right‼️Of course you would just stand there with a smirk on your face watching your own abortion knowing your body would soon be ripped apart and you wouldn’t get to join a forum to pretend it doesn’t matter
Actually—You’d be screaming’ bloody murder at the top of your lungs for the abortionist to stop the video
 

Temujin

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It’s naive to assume all mothers using that language don’t mean exactly what they say.

Yeah, right‼️Of course you would just stand there with a smirk on your face watching your own abortion knowing your body would soon be ripped apart and you wouldn’t get to join a forum to pretend it doesn’t matter
Actually—You’d be screaming’ bloody murder at the top of your lungs for the abortionist to stop the video
What a bizarre imagination you have. Most abortions don't involve any surgery at all and occur well before any awareness on the part of the foetus is possible. No eyes to watch, no voice to scream, no lungs and no nervous system to link anything to get her. Just a foetus that stops functioning due to the actions of the drugs forcing the mother's body to eject it. A grim enough prospect to be sure, but not one that the foetus is aware of.
 

BMS

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What a bizarre imagination you have. Most abortions don't involve any surgery at all and occur well before any awareness on the part of the foetus is possible. No eyes to watch, no voice to scream, no lungs and no nervous system to link anything to get her. Just a foetus that stops functioning due to the actions of the drugs forcing the mother's body to eject it. A grim enough prospect to be sure, but not one that the foetus is aware of.
That would be the human being at embryo stage then rather than at foetal stage.
 

DaGeo

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What a bizarre imagination you have. Most abortions don't involve any surgery at all and occur well before any awareness on the part of the foetus is possible. No eyes to watch, no voice to scream, no lungs and no nervous system to link anything to get her. Just a foetus that stops functioning due to the actions of the drugs forcing the mother's body to eject it. A grim enough prospect to be sure, but not one that the foetus is aware of.
You keep exposing your brazen ignorance. Do you not understand a figure of speech⁉️⁉️ Look it up figures of speech online and then get back with me and I’ll help you with it
 

Temujin

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You keep exposing your brazen ignorance. Do you not understand a figure of speech⁉️⁉️ Look it up figures of speech online and then get back with me and I’ll help you with it
I understand figures of speech, exaggeration, and clear lies very well, thank you very much. As long as you acknowledge that your post was deliberately inaccurate in order to create a misleading impression, I don't mind what you call it.
 

DaGeo

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I understand figures of speech, exaggeration, and clear lies very well, thank you very much. As long as you acknowledge that your post was deliberately inaccurate in order to create a misleading impression, I don't mind what you call it.
Come now Temujin, stop your sulking‼️😂😂🤣🤣
 

Temujin

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Come now Temujin, stop your sulking‼️😂😂🤣🤣
I see you don't understand the word "sulking" either. You should make an effort not to use words that you don't understand, like murder, abortion, evolution etc. I'll point them out to you as we go along.
 

DaGeo

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I see you don't understand the word "sulking" either. You should make an effort not to use words that you don't understand, like murder, abortion, evolution etc. I'll point them out to you as we go along.
Why my dear Temujin, WHY are ya still sulking⁉️

Don’t worry Temujin, I won’t stand in the way of your learning. It’s about time you stood your ground and prove to the world you can look up words in a dictionary‼️

Go for it with great gusto ‼️‼️‼️😂😂🤣🤣
 

DaGeo

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Let me help you guys with your first lesson that is specifically designed for those operating with a dictionary. Don’t try this at home‼️‼️🤣😂

Words usually have a range of meaning. That’s because a single word can have several applications and the words precise meaning depends largely on the context in which the word is placed.

Yes, request granted. You have until winter to think all this complex stuff over before we move on. No hurries no worries
 
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BMS

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I was actually referring to the studies by Dunning and Kruger. However, I appreciate that you religious types relate better to fairy stories than to actual scientific research, so yes, the Emperor's New Clothes is pretty apt as well.

Not sure how your BFF will feel about you having a go at him like that, but that's not my problem.
I was actually referring to your woke ideology where people see and feel what they want rather than what exists which fits the emperor's new clothes absolutely. One doesnt need a study when observable reality is evident
 

Temujin

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I was actually referring to your woke ideology where people see and feel what they want rather than what exists which fits the emperor's new clothes absolutely. One doesnt need a study when observable reality is evident
Classic! "Who needs science when it gives an answer I don't want to believe."

Sorry, but the image of DaGeo as the Emperor in the buff, is now firmly fixed on the board. Somethings you just cannot unsee.
 

BMS

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Classic! "Who needs science
You do. Science tells us the human being has stages of development in the womb that we call zygote, embryo and foetus and which you call just foetus. You need science.
Science tells us the biology of man/male, woman/female is binary, and you imagine other things. Science tells us biological sex is immutable whereas your woke social constructs imagine it isn't

Sorry, but the image of DaGeo as the Emperor in the buff, is now firmly fixed on the board. Somethings you just cannot unsee.
So having told you how your woke ideology is like the emperor's clothes you are thinking of Da Geo naked, yes I forgot woke ideology is sexual perversion as well.
 

BMS

Well-known member
I've never supported abortion. However, I feel I am qualified to answer this question because "the heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked". I have a human heart, and my mother used to tell me that I would wish I'd never been born. This was an almost constant refrain whenever I did anything that offended her, or made her life miserable. I was an almost constant source of disappointment to my mother. So the reality is that by saying that I would wish I'd never been born, on a very real level, she was saying that she wished I had never been born.

It makes me feel that I want revenge. I not only wish I had never been born, I wish my mother had never been born. She used to call down God's wrath upon my head, and now all I can do is call down God's wrath upon her head as well. I am certain I am damned, and as Christ points out, it would be better for some if they'd never been born.

So my support for abortion only extends to my own mother being aborted. Barring that, I can heap hot coals upon my head and curse my own conception.
However the context of Ecclesiastes is the meaningless of life without God.
I saw the tears of the oppressed—
and they have no comforter;
power was on the side of their oppressors—
and they have no comforter.
2 And I declared that the dead,
who had already died,
are happier than the living,
who are still alive.
3 But better than both
is the one who has never been born,
who has not seen the evil
that is done under the sun.

For you and I and us:
Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
 

DaGeo

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I was actually referring to the studies by Dunning and Kruger. However, I appreciate that you religious types relate better to fairy stories than to actual scientific research, so yes, the Emperor's New Clothes is pretty apt as well.

Not sure how your BFF will feel about you having a go at him like that, but that's not my problem.
You need to exert some effort and thoroughly review the studies of Dunning and Kruger. Based on your posts, you have yet to acquire a comprehensive understanding
 
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